Roy flew to see Langford
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We are in much better shape with the other two. Not that we are necessarily gonna get one but we at least are in the game.
I am not banking on our getting any more for 2018, we will just have to see how things work out.
No one should really know what Shittu is going to do because he keeps things extremely tight. Even Vandy insiders are thoroughly confused.
I think the shot is with Zion if anybody and it's not better than 50/50 most likely. With Coby White already on board. I don't see where Langford fits in. Unless he can play PG at a high level?
I would love to have the excess of talent , but in reality I just don't see it. Had maybe the NCAA cloud moved away a little quicker? Langford maybe commits before White?
I would love to have the excess of talent , but in reality I just don't see it. Had maybe the NCAA cloud moved away a little quicker? Langford maybe commits before White?
IMO, Roy is playing with house money at this point, he doesn't really have to get any of these 3 big timers so take your shot and see what happens. I don't think he gets any of the 3 but no big deal if he doesn't, big deal if he is able to snag one of them.
Now I can understand, from just a basketball stand point, why Langford and Zion would not be favored to pick us. But honestly, I can not figure out why we are not more favored for Shittu by either the experts and maybe from the kid himself. We really don't need another 2 guard or wing but big men that can be game changers is a totally different thing. Other than Luke, our front court is wide open for playing time, at best all we have is unproven 3 star kids that may be players one day but from a star big man recruit's view they are not exactly huge speed bumps to playing time or a starting role.
So for a kid like Shittu he would have a wide open path to a starting role at a blue blood program or play for a who the heck cares basketball program in a weak sister conference dominated by 1 team? You either want to be in the brightest spot lite there is or lite by a weak K-mart flashlight with bad batteries?
Now I can understand, from just a basketball stand point, why Langford and Zion would not be favored to pick us. But honestly, I can not figure out why we are not more favored for Shittu by either the experts and maybe from the kid himself. We really don't need another 2 guard or wing but big men that can be game changers is a totally different thing. Other than Luke, our front court is wide open for playing time, at best all we have is unproven 3 star kids that may be players one day but from a star big man recruit's view they are not exactly huge speed bumps to playing time or a starting role.
So for a kid like Shittu he would have a wide open path to a starting role at a blue blood program or play for a who the heck cares basketball program in a weak sister conference dominated by 1 team? You either want to be in the brightest spot lite there is or lite by a weak K-mart flashlight with bad batteries?
Agreed about shittu. I've seen it said that he would have wide open pt at vandy and that's the reason they are in it with us. But I don't see how he wouldn't start here immediately.
But I also think he's played it close to the vest and his visit here could really be a game changer.
Its still possible Simi decides to do a complete 180 and decide in the spring while using his other 3 OV. Which would muddy our chances IMO.
I think its Simi or bust in 2018, unless we find some late emerging interest elsewhere. Don't think we land Langford and def not Zion, despite the renewed interest.
I think its Simi or bust in 2018, unless we find some late emerging interest elsewhere. Don't think we land Langford and def not Zion, despite the renewed interest.
PS--- don't tell Roy this!
Remamber TH was all UK according to another shameful board!
I would much rather have Colby then Langford. I am not saying you are saying that you would rather have Romeo. Just my 2 cents for a lot of reasons
I think White's commitment has added value due to the fact he is an in state recruit. While Langford is ranked higher , holding down the more local talent is important.
Well, for one he is a die hard Tar Heel with a huge upside. He knew what he wanted and committed. After his fathers passing ( God Bless Colby and his Family) The Carolina Family all came to his Father’s funeral. He will not use UNC as a bus stop. He is the kind of recruit we love to cheer for. Plus, the gentleman Spacegrass made a great point is that he is in state. Chris Paul has a lot of confidence in young Colby and he is just scratching the surface to hit his potential. Romeo is a fantastic player. But I would rather have Colby for 2-4 years then Romeo for 1 to maybe two. Once again just my opinion
Oh, and I forgot. Dook at once lead for Romeo. We win the National Championship. Who is the first recruit Roy visits just two days after the title game? Romeo. If that does not show how much a coach wants you and you still have 2 to 3 other teams favored to get him including 2 adidas programs who I would be concerned about. Now dook is out of the picture. Rasheed was all in to UNC after Dean Smith visited him first after 93.
Are there not any other 4's worth pursuing this cycle?
You know it's Coby right? Also, I think there's a fairly good chance Coby could be OAD. He is an absolute stud scorer.
My mistake yes I do know that. I agree with him being a great scorer but I don’t think he is a OAD at all. He has to develop his shot better. He gets to the rim at ease. However, he needs a very consistent outside game to go to the next two levels.
WE are gonna love the kid but yeah, his game needs so maturation and I do think Roy is the perfect coach for him. IMO he will be with us 3-4, kinda like Joel, on the cusp of being able to go but just not enough to push him out to early.
I don't know.... White's physical profile is much better than Berry (6-4 vs 6-0). He was one of only 10 guys in AAU to average 20+ PPG this year, and one of only 3 to do so while shooting 55+% from the field. The other two were both bigs, Bol and Shittu.
His shot is not near Berry's, and probably not the intangibles either. But the NBA cares more about potential, athleticism, etc, and White has that in spades. A big, athletic guard that can really score? I'm bullish on his prospects, but I think there's a possibility he could be top 10 after his freshman season. I definitely wouldn't count on more than two years.
I tend to agree. The berry comparison is a bit off the mark. The size for one thing is a huge differentiator as far as nba goes. Also he's much better in traffic than jb but doesn't shoot it quite as well.. although I can see that improving as his stroke isn't bad at all.
I wouldn't rule out him being a one n done but I think he's a 2 year guy.
Agreed. And if we were to get Zion, Shittu, or Langford, I don't think it's very unrealistic to say we could potentially have 3 freshman OAD's selected in the lottery of the 2019 draft. I think White and Little both have a real chance of being there.
Respectively disagree with both White and Little being OAD’s. They both need a lot of polishing but are going to make fantastic Tar Heels.
I think the chances of little not being a oad aren't very good. I feel like he's a top 5 player In this class.
I am sorry I was thinking of black of course Little is OAD high potential. I just had chemo today and I need to shut up. My apologies for butchering my comments. Take care my fellow Tar Heels!
I think some people on here may be saying they want Romeo because Coby committed early and maybe they've seen Coby play once.
If you've seen Romeo play, you would absolutely fall in love with his game. He reminds me of a Wayne Ellington junior year ability.
If you've seen Romeo play, you would absolutely fall in love with his game. He reminds me of a Wayne Ellington junior year ability.
I mean, I don't think "polishing" and draft status are that highly correlated. Looking at guys in the lottery last year:
Fox couldn't shoot, Markennen and Kennard can't defend, Bam and Isaac are pretty raw offensively, and Dennis Smith had leadership/passing/defense questions. Teams draft in the hopes they can mold you into a star, not usually because they think you're already at that level. High ceiling with good skills and coachability are the most important traits.
I think both are so talented you can't go wrong. However, it's interesting to me that Roy would be fine without any kind of big in this class. I know Little could play the 4, but (I believe) he will only be here 1 season, and that is also Luke's senior year. I guess you can't turn down someone like Langford, but we are awful thin there with no one in place for the 2019-2020 season.
Look if you want to keep hammering away this fine. Coby Is not an OAD, I have seen both players play a lot of times. I am on every recruiting site. Bottom line: Romeo will be a OAD, Coby will not. We shall see. Agree to disagree. But do not assume I am pulling my opinions out of thin air. And even Wayne played 3 years. I said I prefer Cody for my reasons that were stated.
Cool! Not trying to argue, I don't even have much of an opinion on Coby vs Langford as I am in no way a qualified talent evaluator. I think really highly of Coby and I am pumped to have him in Carolina Blue.
What I think will effect Coby's NBA draftability is that he is a combo guard that I think needs to learn the point for the NBA game. Running a team, distributing, defending the point, and the jump shot is an improving work in progress. Right now, not a slam on the kid but he is a bit to much shoot first, not so unlike Jalek in that respect at a similar point.
Many on here will tell you Coby can not play the point, even thou I do disagree with that he is very much a combo guy that fits the 2 much better than the 1. He does not have great size for a NBA 2 guard.
But what modern NBA point guard outside of Chris Paul and Lonzo Ball isn't shoot first?
Russ, Steph, Wall, Harden, Lillard, Kyrie, IT4 etc. are all shoot first. You have to be in the modern game. NBA GMs want points who can shoot.
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