rumor - Fed to call plays this yr

[blazers]

friend of a friend's cousin whose brother knows a guy, says that Fed is going to call his own plays this yr. No more OC3, but no major 'hot' offensive coordinator is being added to the staff.

The rumor was that administration/Bubba were going to let Fed spend a ton of coin if needed, but I guess he wants to do like Petrino, Chip Kelly, etc and call things himself.

 

[tarheel0910]

I thought he already started calling them towards the end of last year?

 

[blazers]

I thought he already started calling them towards the end of last year?

Perhaps. I wouldn't expect that to be officially confirmed or anything but did Fed ever say the play-calling or roles changed at the end of yr? Or was that rumor as well?

A big question I have is if the 'rumor' means any changes regarding other "OC" roles, like scouting, game scripting and prep, practice prep, etc. So much of the fed-spread is down & distance based that the former parts might be more important than the actual rhythm or timing of play-calling.

 

[riverswe]

I'm fine with Fed calling the plays, anything beats the OC3 scenario we've had lately. I'm not sure it would have worked out between Fed and a real OC anyway so this is probably best case for us. Hope we get away from some of the pre-scripting - I don't think it was working. Now just find a way to get Pap what he needs coach and recruit wise to turn that D around (or spend the money on a new DC if he can't). Hope special teams stay pretty much as is - has been a strength.

 

[WoadBlue]

I'm fine with Fed calling the plays, anything beats the OC3 scenario we've had lately. I'm not sure it would have worked out between Fed and a real OC anyway so this is probably best case for us. Hope we get away from some of the pre-scripting - I don't think it was working. Now just find a way to get Pap what he needs coach and recruit wise to turn that D around (or spend the money on a new DC if he can't). Hope special teams stay pretty much as is - has been a strength.

"I'm not sure it would have worked out between Fed and a real OC anyway so this is probably best case for us."

I think Fedora sees his offense as HIS.

 

[KOOL123]

Should have been doing it....

 

[riverswe]

I agree woad, that's what I was trying to say. Glad if this is true and the OC3 experiment is over.

 

[blazers]

I'm fine with Fed calling the plays, anything beats the OC3 scenario we've had lately. I'm not sure it would have worked out between Fed and a real OC anyway so this is probably best case for us. Hope we get away from some of the pre-scripting - I don't think it was working. Now just find a way to get Pap what he needs coach and recruit wise to turn that D around (or spend the money on a new DC if he can't). Hope special teams stay pretty much as is - has been a strength.

Worked out fine with Blake and Seth Littrell though...

 

[WoadBlue]

Worked out fine with Blake and Seth Littrell though...

Anderson came up under Fedora. Almost anything he did as OC for Fedora would be fully in line with what Fedora would want.

Littrell brought an infusion of new ideas and approaches because he was from a different background. My feeling has long been that Fedora was not exactly thrilled about that.

Fedora calling all plays might make the offense for which Fedora has overseen recruiting and player development click better, at least in terms of the things that Fedora seems to value most, such as Big Plays and quick strike TD drives. But unless Fedora manages to arrange things so that our D improves across the board, the program will not rise.

 

[blazers]

Littrell brought an infusion of new ideas and approaches because he was from a different background. My feeling has long been that Fedora was not exactly thrilled about that.

What gave you that feeling, like a dinner-date convo with Fed? Or a bad taco? I think Fed was thrilled with the points per play metric...

Fedora calling all plays might make the offense for which Fedora has overseen recruiting and player development click better, at least in terms of the things that Fedora seems to value most, such as Big Plays and quick strike TD drives.

I still contend that the actual picker of plays on game-day might be less important than the person doing game plan/prep, scouting, etc. There is an art to finding a rhythm, but if the team is practicing poorly-devised plays then those plays probably have a low chance of success unless you are playing a scrub.

 

[riverswe]

I hear what you're saying blazers but I think game day play calling is most important. In practice you get multiple chances to run the plays and get things right and my guess is Fed is watching those sessions most of the time anyway. We don't get into a rhythm on offense partially because of the time it takes to get a play called. Rush to the line then sit there for 20 seconds trying to get things figured out. Understand that keeps the D from subs but I think lots of our offensive line penalties are related to the time the linemen spend in their stance before the snap. And I think Fed will take better advantage of the actual down and distance during the game than the OC3 was. And unless our D can simulated the other team's D during practice, you don't get a good feel for what's working anyway.

 

[truetarheelraider0806]

I just want us to get bowl eligible this yr. That would show some real progress

 

[gteeitup]

happy to finally hear/read this...he knows his skill guys and their fit better than anyone, so let the ship float or sink on him.

his post-game pressers will be much easier now, hopefully.

 

[uncboy10]

Well this team has a win ceiling of 3 wins anyways so what difference does it make? We should probably just disband the football program unless Nick Saban finally accepts our offer.

 

[bobby121567]

Perhaps. I wouldn't expect that to be officially confirmed or anything but did Fed ever say the play-calling or roles changed at the end of yr? Or was that rumor as well?

A big question I have is if the 'rumor' means any changes regarding other "OC" roles, like scouting, game scripting and prep, practice prep, etc. So much of the fed-spread is down & distance based that the former parts might be more important than the actual rhythm or timing of play-calling.

I think he did. He started having a play sheet in his hand. Which I never had seen him have before. That may be a clue that he did take over

 

[blazers]

^Looks like the same sheet in his hand v Louisville too though (ncsu comparison):
ncsu -

lvill -

So i'm not sure if the sheet is an indicator.

 

[ticket2ride04]

Fed will call more but he’s still grooming Heck to be his next Blake. Being hands off was a little easier when he had vets like Renner, Quise, and Mitch.

Personally, I think play calling is way overrated. Players have to execute.

 

[riverswe]

Poor execution will doom any play, I agree. But I think play calling is very important, which includes any formation and motion. It wasn't just that some of the play calls were bad, our formation and motion were bad. I think half the time the defense knew exactly what we were doing before the ball was snapped. When that happens not even good execution will help. We had become very predictable based on personnel, formation and motion.

 

[ticket2ride04]

Poor execution will doom any play, I agree. But I think play calling is very important, which includes any formation and motion. It wasn't just that some of the play calls were bad, our formation and motion were bad. I think half the time the defense knew exactly what we were doing before the ball was snapped. When that happens not even good execution will help. We had become very predictable based on personnel, formation and motion.

I’ve had multiple professional football players tell me play calling is overrated. I’m not saying it’s unimportant, but knowing the play and executing is far and away more important. As for personnel, yeah, we were short in that department and it’s understandable given how much we lost on offense.

 

[riverswe]

Could be but just doesn't sound right to me. And in the pros most teams have a quality LB that pretty much figures out the play pre snap - don't think that's the case in college. I think the play calling creates a rhythm for the offense and keeps the defense guessing. I do agree if you don't execute it doesn't matter what the play call is.

 

[blazers]

in this world of read-option and rpo, and everything else, sometimes it is hard to tell exactly what the play-call really was. Esp in Fed's offense, since the OL will run-block during a pass or vice-versa. You see a guard pulling to the right, the center in tow to the right setting up a run, but then a detached TE comes back to block the left DE, but then the QB actually passes.

The end result is obvious, but there probably permutations from the side-line. Were the permutations 'bad calls' or did the players just f up?

 

[TVJ]

To further state the obvious - if Fed is going to persist with a quick strike offense we MUST develop better depth on defense. Our D has worn out in too many games from having to be on the field so much.

 

[blazers]

To further state the obvious - if Fed is going to persist with a quick strike offense we MUST develop better depth on defense. Our D has worn out in too many games from having to be on the field so much.

Our top 4 linebackers were out w injury at the end (holcomb, Andre, bonilla, cayson) so they don't apply, but otherwise the DL depth wasn't bad. The bigger problem than depth was the turnovers and repeated 3 & outs by the O. The D didn't look all that tired vs Cal, odu, Louisville, but O injuries didn't take full effect til late dook and beyond.
^ just my opinion.