Shots. Effing. Fired. By the Tar Heel State
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Makes sense that they want to protect themselves from a conference exerting its political opinion where it's not warranted. However I'm not sure this will change much, as the NCAA followed the same protocol of inserting itself in matters it didn't belong - so this sense of moral superiority doesn't seem to be confined to a particular conference.
My language for the bill would have been slightly different. It would be something along the lines of "if the ACC were to ever hold a conference championship in the USA, state would be required to leave the conference."
Never. Gonna. Happen.
Yesterday the NC General Assembly introduced a bill declaring same sex marriages invalid. Not only does the bill fly in the face of the SCOTUS ruling, it also includes a quote from scripture. Facepalm. FWIW, the guy who introduced it is the same guy who introduced a bill for North Carolina to secede last year.
Our tax dollars at work.
Our tax dollars at work.
You should be ostracized for linking that newspaper. Luckily for you, I read the hyperlink label before clicking it.
Oh for Pete's sake. Not every story is about UNC. Basically the gist is that Pittman (sponsor of the same sex marriage bill) compared Lincoln to Hitler in a Facebook post.
A commenter reminded Pittman that the Supreme Court ruling settled the law on gay marriage and that the lawmaker should “get over it.”
Pittman’s response: “And if Hitler had won, should the world just get over it? Lincoln was the same sort (of) tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.”
This is a member of our legislature, y'all.
A commenter reminded Pittman that the Supreme Court ruling settled the law on gay marriage and that the lawmaker should “get over it.”
Pittman’s response: “And if Hitler had won, should the world just get over it? Lincoln was the same sort (of) tyrant, and personally responsible for the deaths of over 800,000 Americans in a war that was unnecessary and unconstitutional.”
This is a member of our legislature, y'all.
Well aware. Point is they'll never get click-through revenue from me ever again, nor will any other McClatchy publication.
Pittman is a complete lunatic, for the record. Here is some of the legislation he has sponsored or views he holds:
- A bill that made it easier to obtain firearms and eliminated concealed carry restrictions, introduced the day after his son committed suicide with a handgun
- A bill for North Carolina to secede from the United States
- A bill that would establish a state religion in NC
- The aforementioned bill invalidating same-sex marriages despite SCOTUS ruling
- Believes doctors who perform abortions should receive the death penalty
$20 to whoever gets raising heel to click a link to that site
Funny that he's so concerned with the war being unconstitutional when it was a result of an unconstitutional act of secession. An act that he apparently still advocates for today, despite it being unconsitutional:
Good grief what a tool.
Never mind the fact that the war eliminated slavery, still a black stain on our history. Is Lincoln a tyrant for that?
Bet he's one of those idiots who calls it the "war of northern aggression"
Never mind the fact that the war eliminated slavery, still a black stain on our history. Is Lincoln a tyrant for that?
Bet he's one of those idiots who calls it the "war of northern aggression"
Let's calm down on anointing Lincoln as a saint. The man shit on the Constitution many times and, despite advocating emancipation, saw the role of black people in American society as nothing greater than being subsistence farmers.
Also, North Carolina held far fewer slaves than most Southern states, was the last Southern state to secede (Tennessee says they were, but they can GFT), but then supplied the Confederacy with more soldiers than any other Southern state.
That being said, this Pittman character obviously is dumber than a bag of hammers. In general, the N.C. General Assembly sorta seems/acts like they're part of a thought experiment in a liberal arts class, rather than proposing actual bills for the real world.
Also, North Carolina held far fewer slaves than most Southern states, was the last Southern state to secede (Tennessee says they were, but they can GFT), but then supplied the Confederacy with more soldiers than any other Southern state.
That being said, this Pittman character obviously is dumber than a bag of hammers. In general, the N.C. General Assembly sorta seems/acts like they're part of a thought experiment in a liberal arts class, rather than proposing actual bills for the real world.
(sigh) sheezus (sigh)
When people say things like that, I sometimes wonder just how many steps away from re-instituting slavery some of these old dudes might be before they could actually be persuaded to do it. They seem to really enjoy being as archaic as possible.
I'm as pro-peace as they come, but this country deliberately chose to have- not just a war to end slavery- but a horrible, unprecedented blood bath to actually get it done. The casualties and overall death and loss is a testament to just how ingrained and profitable slavery was, and is also proof-positive that war was the ONLY outcome for it to finally end. Slavery was just a more severe example of a behavior and instituted lifestyle that had to literally be beaten-out of slave-owners, and the whole economic/social system, in order for them to stop doing it to the people enslaved. It was the purest, and most abhorrent, example of slavery in human history.
I understand people not wanting to encourage and enable perverts to violate people. No one wants to do that. But, transgender isn't a synonym for rapist.
These men are making the state of NC look like a haven for, and natural habitat of, antiquated morons. This just gets more and more embarrassing.
While I don't exactly agree with ALL that I will say this...sometimes I think we've cornered the market on dumbass.
Just as slavery was a tool to push other agendas in that day, this issue is doing the same. Are all 49 states really allowing a free for all in restrooms and locker rooms? North Carolina is being used as a pawn in the big picture. As for Lincoln, he stopped slavery in the south, while it continues in the north for some time after the war. It was just a tool to fix other issues as well. There was economical issues such as a railroad that the north wanted more than the south. And hark, up to that point it was not illegal to secede from the union. Only after the war was that added
If you believe that, then it shows you don't have a good grasp on the history of the world. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you slavery in America wasn't terrible and condemnable because it was, but your statement above is wrong.
In general, I disagree with your notion that such a deadly war was needed to "beat slavery out of" the Southern states. As basically every decade of the 20th century showed us (20s -- women voting, 40s -- women in the work place, 60s -- end of segregation), as society modernizes, unacceptable and unseemly social and legal practices show themselves to be archaic/barbaric/inhumane and then the nation takes steps to end it. Even if the South had won the war, modernity and evolving world views would have eventually led to a political ending of slavery. Think about what happened 20 years after the Civil War --> the Industrial Revolution. Machines that don't need to sleep and don't need to eat, can do the work that man once did. And this evolution of technology has gone on nonstop ever since.
Slavery would've ended regardless, which is a good thing. It didn't necessitate a war, though. As a result of the war and of Reconstruction, Southern states are only recovering now in the last 20-40 years. Some states are doing so better than others (North Carolina, Texas, Florida), but some like Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama are still catching up.
Just my $.02. To say the Civil War was only fought because of slavery is a narrow view of history. I can give you personal and factual examples, but I'm not gonna turn this into a history debate.
(I also hate that this good poast of mine is made with this shitty ass mother flubbing avatar)
I don't feel like addressing the rest of your reply. But, I will go 2 cents- to- 2 cents.
If you remove the institution of slavery from the American condition, what reason do the southern states have to secede? For that matter, what forces compromises in legislation throughout the 19th century leading-up to the event? Without the profits of slavery being threatened, there's no war. And, profits are what drives the system even today.
Bottom line is: No slavery, no war.
I'm tempted to prove that slavery was never implemented so decisively and cruelly before. The profits alone from the institution in the United States exceeds anything before it.
Profits from slavery =/= cruelty of slavery
I'll respond to the rest or your poast if and when I feel like it. For now, I'm gonna go get some lunch.
I'll respond to the rest or your poast if and when I feel like it. For now, I'm gonna go get some lunch.
Please do. At least you can admit that without the profits from the institution of slavery, there's no war. The entire nation benefited from it. But, the abolitionists and free former slaves were found in the northern states because, one by one, the northern states abolished it. The southern states were not about to do that. I used to believe that it would have finally ended. And, you can speculate that it might have. But, the truth is, it should NEVER HAVE STARTED to begin with! People justify doing some of the most heinous shit when they're making a lot of money doing it.
Americans didn't invent slavery, it had been going on for hundreds of years before it came to our shores. Might has been right ever since man stepped foot on the planet. If you could take something, be it land, wealth, or people and hold it, it was yours until you could no longer prevent someone else from taking it. And while we are slowly evolving away from that concept, it is still in play today. Our species evolves very slowly.
Actually, Americans brought it to these shores. Well, not "Americans", but the European explorers when they came here. The indigenous people had no concept of "private property." The Spanish wasted no time subjugating and enslaving them. Well, the ones that didn't die from disease or resist and be killed.
Read the first chapter of Howard Zinn's: The People's History of America
And, then read chapter 9
Here... I'll provide them to just listen in your spare time.
