Here is the hard truth on fans. If you take away the school colors that bring out the hate, most all fan bases are about the same as far as people go. Sure, you have the rude ones at any school, but the vast majority are the same level of people. One reason you don't see any venom coming from Clemson these days, at least concerning ACC foes, is that the feel threatened by no one. They don't really care about the rest of the league at this point in football. The league is merely a warm up for their post season. But if you do want to bring out the venom, start talking about basketball. Then you will get the full version on how UNC controls the league, it's refs, and all other aspects to keep them at the top while Clemson mostly is mid pack in their best years