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Stats and stuff - Post Mortem and Preview

gary-7

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In the last Stats post I reviewed some history which shows in no uncertain terms that in the modern shot-clock/3-point era prolific scoring is vital to Carolina Basketball success, which is why Roy came back home wanting to "play fast". And we noted that our 3 National Championship teams during this era have done just that:

1992-93 86.1 PPG (with a 45 second clock!)
2004-05 88.0 PPG
2008-09 89.8 PPG

How did we do this season?
2014-15 77.7 PPG

Ouch. That is the kind of number common to the Doherty era. Now 78 PPG might be a bonanza for the folks in Charlottesville, but that won't nearly cut it in the Carolina system. That's Driving Miss Daisy slow. So what can we do to get back up to speed literally and figuratively?

*2.2 is a Magic Number
I started keeping the PPM stats with different combos because we were not pushing tempo --- and since Roy hasn't changed his approach to the game, it was obviously a product of personnel groupings.
Modern history shows us to be most successful when scoring in the upper 80s PPG.
Since 2.2 PPM translates to 88 PPG, that is a pretty good benchmark for good team results.

*Remarkably Consistent
Generally you expect to see some aberrations from trends, but there weren't many with UNC this season. Roy's starting one-guard lineup pretty consistently failed to exceed 2 PPM against quality opponents. From Xmas on when I began keeping the numbers the starting/one-guard lineups came in at an aggregate just under 1.8 PPM (about 72 PPG). However, speaking of consistency, one particular combination pretty consistently exceeded our benchmark.

One-Guard lineups 1.79 PPM
Multi-Guard lineups 2.08 PPM
Berry/Paige lineups 2.34 PPM

*Backcourt is Key
The '93 team was deep and versatile and could go big with Salvadori paired with Montross or smaller with George Lynch sliding into the 4 slot. The '05 team was a full-time small lineup with Jawad Williams being a 3 playing as a stretch-4, as did Marvin Williams off the bench, while '09 was more traditional with Deon Thompson or Ed Davis paired with Psycho-T.
What these 3 championship teams had in common were outstanding backcourts, each with a first-rate true PG and a 2-Guard who could fill it up from deep as well as being the secondary ball-handler and finisher comfortable with pushing pace.

'92-'93 Derrick Phelps / Donald Williams
'04-'05 Ray Felton / Rashad McCants
'08-'09 Ty Lawson / Wayne Ellington

For '15-'16 a Joel Berry / Marcus Paige combination could follow that tradition and fill the aforementioned roles quite nicely and make another terrific Carolina backcourt. It is also the only option we have that can fill those roles on a consistent basis. Hopefully viable, consistent backups will emerge as well.
The numbers say (very loudly) that this is the key to next season's aspirations. The 2.34 PPM number translates to an impressive 93.6 PPG, and Joel Berry has already shown himself to be a tenacious defender to boot, and a healthy Marcus Paige ain't bad either, with his athleticism and toughness making up for his size.
The bottom line is with (almost) everyone back, Roy will face a similar personnel dilemma as last season. He will have multiple options at the 3, 4 and 5 slots (edit: maybe not so much with JP leaving), and it will present quite a dilemma on whom to take out of the starting lineup if he decides to do so, but I feel confident in saying the best (and perhaps only) chance for UNC to realize our championship aspirations is for the first two players listed in the score book every night to be #2 and #5.

*Notable Individual Numbers
Going back to the criteria set by Dean Smith, a key stat for Carolina players (especially those who handle the ball a lot) is Assist-to-Turnover ratio, with a "positive" ratio being 1-to-1 or better, and the goal for "winning basketball" is 2-to-1 or better. For the past season, among those who played significant minutes, only three players reached that goal:
Paige (2.3-to-1), Berry (2.2-to-1), and (surprisingly), Theo Pinson at just under 2.2-to-1 (this number may bode well for Theo becoming a reliable backup at the 2 spot).
BTW: although we don't expect quite the same standard for post players, alarmingly (albeit not surprisingly) Joel James had a "negative" ratio (0.3-to-1)... and Isiah Hicks was only slightly better. Most of Isiah's TOs were TOs of aggression. Unfortunately Big Joel's were usually simple failures to catch or keep control of the ball. Both of their numbers need to improve considerably.

Finally, an encouraging number was the improvement in our outside shooting, especially down the stretch. In ACC conference play Marcus Paige (41.5%), Nate Britt (42.4%) and Joel Berry (41.2%) all exceeded 40% from 3, and although his season pct wasn't good, Justin Jackson came on strong shooting from deep at tourney time giving an encouraging preview for next season. And speaking of which, over the final 11 games Joel Berry shot the 3-ball at a rate of 47.5 %.

*Postscript: Defense
Thanks largely to improvement in this area by our Bigs, this season's team could be pretty good defensively at times, and there's no reason that can't continue to improve. Cleaning up the defensive glass will be a priority. We allowed too many offensive rebounds, plus controlling the boards is key to triggering the running game --- and as per the theme of this post, that is very much a key to our success.

This post was edited on 4/9 12:27 AM by gary-7
 
Good analysis, and I think that echos what we saw towards the end of the year with the "eye test" that Berry, Paige, and Jackson were the best 1-2-3 combo we could put out there.

What I'd be intrigued to see the numbers on, is +/- of the two guard lineups. You do a lot of work with the PPG and PPM stats, which is helpful, but the other half of the game should be noted as well. If Berry in the lineup is causing us to score 8 more points per game, great... unless he's also causing us to give up 10 more per game.

I think as fans we're naturally wired to notice the offensive boost more than the defensive boost of a player, so while the eye test flows right in line with what we've seen for the offensive numbers, it'd be interesting to see if the less-heralded defensive numbers match.
 
Originally posted by Hark_The_Sound_2010:

Good analysis, and I think that echos what we saw towards the end of the year with the "eye test" that Berry, Paige, and Jackson were the best 1-2-3 combo we could put out there.

What I'd be intrigued to see the numbers on, is +/- of the two guard lineups. You do a lot of work with the PPG and PPM stats, which is helpful, but the other half of the game should be noted as well. If Berry in the lineup is causing us to score 8 more points per game, great... unless he's also causing us to give up 10 more per game.

I think as fans we're naturally wired to notice the offensive boost more than the defensive boost of a player, so while the eye test flows right in line with what we've seen for the offensive numbers, it'd be interesting to see if the less-heralded defensive numbers match.
What was most noticeable in the eye test difference was the increase in tempo, which of course meant we got more possessions, but then so do the opponents. I can tell you though, that while I was keeping these stats we outscored our opponents in aggregate with that backcourt on the floor, and usually at a better pace than without... and keep in mind that Berry was often coming in with subs in at other positions as well. We saw precious little of what will hopefully be the lineup this coming season that so many have lusted for: Berry/Paige/Jackson/Johnson/Meeks. Honestly, the biggest question I have with that one is "how the hell do you guard them?" We'll miss JPs defense and versatility but Good Lord, this lineup has the potential to be an offensive juggernaut.

Fast tempo is our milieu and Roy's preferred style, His credo has been that we're better at that than you are, so let's run. Last season was so frustrating because I love Roy's style and (as a friend put it) it was like watching him coach against himself. The big lineup was a square peg in the proverbial round hole. Roy tried and tried to get them to force tempo but it wasn't to be. It showed mostly in going so danged deep in the shot clock, and a lot of that was from JP trying to be a Guard and the ball sticking to his hands.

I suspect that was a running battle for Roy, who even commented at mid-season about needing JP to play more like a 3. It also adds more credence to the rumors that Roy was about to make the move to start Berry at home vs GATech before the sudden illness derailed it, and that JP may have been odd man out... and also seems to jibe with JP's comments about declaring for the draft. JP wanted to transition into an NBA 2 and that just wasn't his best role for UNC. To that I say "fair enough", and wish JP nothing but the best. I've been in the minority who thinks he might actually pull that off and I hope he does. He'll sure as hell make the NBA Slam Dunk contest way better!
 
Originally posted by gary-7:

I've been in the minority who thinks he might actually pull that off and I hope he does. He'll sure as hell make the NBA Slam Dunk contest way better!
Good points that the numbers may have been skewed if Berry entered the game with Jackson Simmons and Joel James as co-subs. He could be the best player in the country and the teams numbers would most likely dip just because 40% of the lineup was a black hole.

And I completely agree with the statement above. I really couldn't believe some people with the comments on JP. They just dont make sense. There are people that were so quick to tout JP's strengths last week (telling everyone to lay off cracking on his jumper - after all, he's a Heel and can do no wrong!), that are now saying he was garbage, good riddance, might make the Israeli league if he's lucky. Those people lose all credibility IMO. This could work out amazingly if we land Brown or Ingram as a result - which who knows, but both of them would be better on this team next year than JP. If only for the reason that they aren't two year starters that would have a problem being relegated to the bench. Even if we don't get a recruit as a result it could be good, as more PT is available and less chance of a locker room issue (if those reports are true).

I hope JP works on his game and becomes the best he can be in the NBA, which I think is a pretty high ceiling. He's got decent size, some good skills (rebounding and passing - if passing is refined a little), and unbelievable athleticism. He just needs a jump shot (which I realize is the equivalent of saying that airplane over there is the shiniest, has the coolest gadgets and is the safest.... if only it could fly).
 
Originally posted by Hark_The_Sound_2010:
Originally posted by gary-7:

I've been in the minority who thinks he might actually pull that off and I hope he does. He'll sure as hell make the NBA Slam Dunk contest way better!
Good points that the numbers may have been skewed if Berry entered the game with Jackson Simmons and Joel James as co-subs. He could be the best player in the country and the teams numbers would most likely dip just because 40% of the lineup was a black hole.

And I completely agree with the statement above. I really couldn't believe some people with the comments on JP. They just dont make sense. There are people that were so quick to tout JP's strengths last week (telling everyone to lay off cracking on his jumper - after all, he's a Heel and can do no wrong!), that are now saying he was garbage, good riddance, might make the Israeli league if he's lucky. Those people lose all credibility IMO. This could work out amazingly if we land Brown or Ingram as a result - which who knows, but both of them would be better on this team next year than JP. If only for the reason that they aren't two year starters that would have a problem being relegated to the bench. Even if we don't get a recruit as a result it could be good, as more PT is available and less chance of a locker room issue (if those reports are true).

I hope JP works on his game and becomes the best he can be in the NBA, which I think is a pretty high ceiling. He's got decent size, some good skills (rebounding and passing - if passing is refined a little), and unbelievable athleticism. He just needs a jump shot (which I realize is the equivalent of saying that airplane over there is the shiniest, has the coolest gadgets and is the safest.... if only it could fly).
Well said, Hark.
It's funny, the new front page article just got posted about JP that leans to the "attitude" side of the explanation. I don't fault JP for seeing his future, but it was indeed obvious that it was affecting his play this season (Good-JP/Bad-JP). Instead of being a good 3 who improved his jump shot (which would have been noticed by the pros), he tried to step into being a 2 on this team, and again --- square peg meet round hole. But hey, as you said, I'm pulling for him. That airplane you mentioned may not fly but JP sure can...
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