Stats and stuff (Texas game)

[gary-7]

I'm not gonna bore you guys with minutiae --- y'all probably already know the key stat, a very un-Carolina stat:
Offensive Rebounds
UNC - 4
Tex - 16
(and only 7 second chance points to their 21)

- I know Theo was the most recent victim, but apparently several guys on the team dealt with some stomach issues this week, and it showed. There was a lot of bending at the waist instead of moving feet. Our Bigs weren't making positive moves to get to potential assists (and we failed to convert the bucket on at least 8), and were strangely inactive on the offensive glass. Yeah granted, Texas was doing more than their fair share of holding and grabbing and such on "block-outs" but our guys just weren't as aggressive as they usually are.

- Texas did a nice job of getting back, but we also weren't always sprinting to lanes and spots in transition. The were only 7 Fast Break points and 22 off the Secondary break.

- Defense by Bigs on high ball screens was still an issue... and bless his heart, Nate just got abused head-up.

- We shot a good percentage from the field and were an excellent 24-28 from the line, but the 3 ball abandoned us some in the second half. Joel missed a couple of really nice looks that would have made life more comfortable. They made 12, we made 6. Big difference.

- Even with all the above, let's be honest: Texas was still extremely fortunate. I counted at least 15 what I call "trash" points --- points off desperation heaves/weird long rebounds/loose balls etc. Again though, some of that could possibly be attributed to our being a step slow today.

- The last shot should not have been allowed. #21 for Texas should have been called for absolutely flattening Marcus on the long rebound (and right in front of the baseline ref, BTW). MP should have been shooting FTs at the other end for the win. But, with a better played game it doesn't come down to that.

- Oh, one more thing: I ****-ing hate Texas.

 

[Heelicious]

Good points as usual, Gary. I hate that we were up by 8 with two minutes I. The first half... And instead of calling a to and finding a way to maintain or expand that we let it Shrink to two. I swear we must average minus 6 per game in the last 2 minutes of the first halves.

I love all Roy has done for the program but I do believe there are many instances where he gets outcoached. Him saying so every time doesn't make it right or better or ok. F***ing change and fix it. Like get in MPs face to be more unselfish and shoot more in first half

Use your timeouts even in first half t get right guys in game to ru. Something and get a good shot. We got almost nothing we wanted in half court sets. If we are w contender can't we run something to exploit alleged advantages we have?

Maybe this s biased sour grapes bit it seemed like we got called for contact that was just a function of being bigger. Butt not so for Texas today. They could bang shove etc with impunity. Why doesn't Roy get on the officials? I generally like Smart but he was bugging me today the way he jumped around in a 4 year old temper tantrum frequently

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

Spot on Gary. Not going to ask you to track it, but I would LOVE to know how many points were given up due to misplaying the pick and roll by both the guard and the hedge man and also how many 3's were from overhelping. The over helping has been an issue for MANY years with Roy's teams, but the defense of the pick and roll has not been this bad for as long as I can remember.

 

[gary-7]

Spot on Gary. Not going to ask you to track it, but I would LOVE to know how many points were given up due to misplaying the pick and roll by both the guard and the hedge man and also how many 3's were from overhelping. The over helping has been an issue for MANY years with Roy's teams, but the defense of the pick and roll has not been this bad for as long as I can remember.

Couple of things on that:
1. I would still like to see some more jump doubles on the screens --- Texas' Bigs weren't athletic enough to hurt us much on rolls.
2. Theo being under the weather hurt. He got fewer minutes and when he played he wasn't his usual self. When Nate is left in against physically stronger guards for any length of time they're gonna find him and the result usually ain't good. Again, a few times he was betrayed by a big teammate, but on others their guards were just having their way with him. When JB got in foul trouble (some sketchy calls, BTW) our perimeter defense went south. Berry was directly responsible for 6 of their 8 TOs (2 steals, 2 deflections, 1 drawn charge, and a smother on a shot attempt that forced a bad pass). It would have been nice to have Theo to fill in the minutes and play some D when we had a lead.

On another note, despite what Bilas said, that wasn't a Point Zone, it was a 1-2-2. I also would have liked to have seen a little more of the extended 1-3-1 that we tried once. It thoroughly flummoxed their guards.

 

[gary-7]

Good points as usual, Gary. I hate that we were up by 8 with two minutes I. The first half... And instead of calling a to and finding a way to maintain or expand that we let it Shrink to two. I swear we must average minus 6 per game in the last 2 minutes of the first halves.

I love all Roy has done for the program but I do believe there are many instances where he gets outcoached. Him saying so every time doesn't make it right or better or ok. F***ing change and fix it. Like get in MPs face to be more unselfish and shoot more in first half

Use your timeouts even in first half t get right guys in game to ru. Something and get a good shot. We got almost nothing we wanted in half court sets. If we are w contender can't we run something to exploit alleged advantages we have?

Maybe this s biased sour grapes bit it seemed like we got called for contact that was just a function of being bigger. Butt not so for Texas today. They could bang shove etc with impunity. Why doesn't Roy get on the officials? I generally like Smart but he was bugging me today the way he jumped around in a 4 year old temper tantrum frequently

We played the last 2:43 of the first half without our starting backcourt which is not usual (I'm assuming to protect JB from getting another foul). I think that made a difference, and I too would like to have seen Roy burn his use-it-or-lose-it timeout right before the half to get a better shot and use the clock a little better.

 

[coryfly]

Berry and Britt didn't have their best games on either end and both need to step up and play better on the road, where they have struggled. I'm not worried about Berry but am about Britt. Britt needs to play better period. Brice has to stop committing bad fouls. We have to rebound better, especially Hicks if he is going to get extended minutes. Still, even with all of that we didn't play that terrible overall. Texas had a lot of contested threes in the second half. They made them. The rebounding was disappointing but considering how well they played and how poorly a few of our guys played the loss doesn't really bother me terribly. It won't be often a team takes that many threes and makes 63% of them. It won't be often a team rebounds over half of their missed shots against us. It won't be often several players get food poisoning a few days before a game. It won't be often a team makes a thirty footer and it won't be often we get pushed in the back so obviously twice on back to back plays in the last few seconds that lead to two buckets. Lots of things had to go wrong for us to lose. It happens. Sucks but I don't think it is a huge indictment on their potential or anything. The Northern Iowa game was way more concerning than this one.

To me, the keys to this team reaching their potential are simple. Play Meeks as much as possible. Play Britt less. Play Pinson more at the 2.

 

[DSouthr]

First off this was Texas, Texas is a kryptonite game for us seems like it has been since Roy has been our coach. Second, they (Texas) shot out of their minds, by far better than they have all season, likely better than they will the rest of this season. Texas took a lot of bad shots, Texas made a lot of those bad shots, when a team can do that you have trouble on your hands. Third their bigs controlled the glass, bad combination any time the other team is shooting out of their minds and controlling the glass. Fourth Brice picked up early foul trouble and was limited in that first half, forced us to play Joel James much more than any of us wanted to see. Thou I felt Hicks played well, Brice when he was in there was not really stopped when we could get him the ball.

Maybe it was the sickness many of the guys had to deal with combined with the long road trip to Texas but we did seem a step slow to the ball, felt Meeks in particular struggled and yeah, Nate did get abused but Marcus got abused hard to. I felt berry played better than I think most will agree with but we didn't create or find a lot of open looks for Nate or Joel and the few they got they did not drop.

Shaka has to be proud of his team, they played out of their minds, I mean between the freshman Davis and Felix they just were not going to miss a shot and it really didn't matter if it was a good or bad shot. WE contested many of those shots that Felix took, he still hit them, some times you just have to tip your hat and not so much look to lay blame. And Davis was just a stone cold killer last night, I mean loose ball finds Davis and with no board coverage and 3 Heels looking for the rebound he takes and makes what, a 40+ footer? IT was their night, that is what it was. If that is how we play when we are off and it takes a game like that from the opposition to beat us, I feel pretty darn good about our prospects moving forward.

 

[Grayhead]

It seemed when we went zone, Texas could not get the same Iooks which went well for us. If we mix in some zone, maybe we could curb the career night from opposing guards. At least to stop runs from happening. Not after consecutive threes being made.

 

[Archer2]

First off this was Texas, Texas is a kryptonite game for us seems like it has been since Roy has been our coach. Second, they (Texas) shot out of their minds, by far better than they have all season, likely better than they will the rest of this season. Texas took a lot of bad shots, Texas made a lot of those bad shots, when a team can do that you have trouble on your hands. Third their bigs controlled the glass, bad combination any time the other team is shooting out of their minds and controlling the glass. Fourth Brice picked up early foul trouble and was limited in that first half, forced us to play Joel James much more than any of us wanted to see. Thou I felt Hicks played well, Brice when he was in there was not really stopped when we could get him the ball.

Maybe it was the sickness many of the guys had to deal with combined with the long road trip to Texas but we did seem a step slow to the ball, felt Meeks in particular struggled and yeah, Nate did get abused but Marcus got abused hard to. I felt berry played better than I think most will agree with but we didn't create or find a lot of open looks for Nate or Joel and the few they got they did not drop.

Shaka has to be proud of his team, they played out of their minds, I mean between the freshman Davis and Felix they just were not going to miss a shot and it really didn't matter if it was a good or bad shot. WE contested many of those shots that Felix took, he still hit them, some times you just have to tip your hat and not so much look to lay blame. And Davis was just a stone cold killer last night, I mean loose ball finds Davis and with no board coverage and 3 Heels looking for the rebound he takes and makes what, a 40+ footer? IT was their night, that is what it was. If that is how we play when we are off and it takes a game like that from the opposition to beat us, I feel pretty darn good about our prospects moving forward.

Couldn't agree more D. Our guys did seem a step slow all night, I think it's quite possible the lingering effects of being sick affected their performance.

In the end, if any team hits as many difficult treys as Texas did, then they are capable of beating any other team. I can live with that easier than I can accept subpar effort on the glass. Texas had 16 OR to our 4, which is completely unacceptable, and ultimately led to our demise. Brice and Kennedy only played 44 minutes combined, not nearly enough. Isaiah played well off the bench but 3 boards in 24 minutes is absurd for someone of his size and athleticism.

If both teams shoot a normal percentage, the team that wins the boards generally wins. They won the boards and shot 50% from three, many of them difficult shots. If they make a few more FT's, it's not as close as the final score. We've been playing lights out since Marcus' return, I have to think the team being sick this week affected them.

 

[HeelFan58]

First off this was Texas, Texas is a kryptonite game for us seems like it has been since Roy has been our coach. Second, they (Texas) shot out of their minds, by far better than they have all season, likely better than they will the rest of this season. Texas took a lot of bad shots, Texas made a lot of those bad shots, when a team can do that you have trouble on your hands. Third their bigs controlled the glass, bad combination any time the other team is shooting out of their minds and controlling the glass. Fourth Brice picked up early foul trouble and was limited in that first half, forced us to play Joel James much more than any of us wanted to see. Thou I felt Hicks played well, Brice when he was in there was not really stopped when we could get him the ball.

Maybe it was the sickness many of the guys had to deal with combined with the long road trip to Texas but we did seem a step slow to the ball, felt Meeks in particular struggled and yeah, Nate did get abused but Marcus got abused hard to. I felt berry played better than I think most will agree with but we didn't create or find a lot of open looks for Nate or Joel and the few they got they did not drop.

Shaka has to be proud of his team, they played out of their minds, I mean between the freshman Davis and Felix they just were not going to miss a shot and it really didn't matter if it was a good or bad shot. WE contested many of those shots that Felix took, he still hit them, some times you just have to tip your hat and not so much look to lay blame. And Davis was just a stone cold killer last night, I mean loose ball finds Davis and with no board coverage and 3 Heels looking for the rebound he takes and makes what, a 40+ footer? IT was their night, that is what it was. If that is how we play when we are off and it takes a game like that from the opposition to beat us, I feel pretty darn good about our prospects moving forward.

If Texas is our kryptonite then I'm just not sure what that says.

 

[gary-7]

First off this was Texas, Texas is a kryptonite game for us seems like it has been since Roy has been our coach. Second, they (Texas) shot out of their minds, by far better than they have all season, likely better than they will the rest of this season. Texas took a lot of bad shots, Texas made a lot of those bad shots, when a team can do that you have trouble on your hands. Third their bigs controlled the glass, bad combination any time the other team is shooting out of their minds and controlling the glass. Fourth Brice picked up early foul trouble and was limited in that first half, forced us to play Joel James much more than any of us wanted to see. Thou I felt Hicks played well, Brice when he was in there was not really stopped when we could get him the ball.

Maybe it was the sickness many of the guys had to deal with combined with the long road trip to Texas but we did seem a step slow to the ball, felt Meeks in particular struggled and yeah, Nate did get abused but Marcus got abused hard to. I felt berry played better than I think most will agree with but we didn't create or find a lot of open looks for Nate or Joel and the few they got they did not drop.

Shaka has to be proud of his team, they played out of their minds, I mean between the freshman Davis and Felix they just were not going to miss a shot and it really didn't matter if it was a good or bad shot. WE contested many of those shots that Felix took, he still hit them, some times you just have to tip your hat and not so much look to lay blame. And Davis was just a stone cold killer last night, I mean loose ball finds Davis and with no board coverage and 3 Heels looking for the rebound he takes and makes what, a 40+ footer? IT was their night, that is what it was. If that is how we play when we are off and it takes a game like that from the opposition to beat us, I feel pretty darn good about our prospects moving forward.

Dave, all good points, and given all that I really wish Roy would not be so damned stubborn defensively. When a team is unconscious like they were the last thing you want to let them do is play one-on-one, especially when our Bigs were lethargic in help D. We miss one rebound in Zone and Roy gives up on it. I thought the 1-2-2 (which if you remember I was calling for vs N. Iowa) was a great move and frustrated their guards. With the aforementioned foul trouble and a 5 point lead I would've stayed in it until they showed me they could beat it. So what if they got an offensive rebound or 2?... it wasn't like that situation was any better in Man.
And yeah, they had nobody who could stop Brice. It's a shame the zebras saw fit to bail out their offensively challenged inside guys by questionable foul calls --- that many minutes from Big Joel cannot possibly be a good thing.

 

[Archer2]

Well, Texas has been very good under Barnes and will be even better under Smart. No shame to lose to them. Do you think Knight Lite would schedule a series of home/away games with Texas? Nuff said.

And I agree wholeheartedly with Gary about the 1-2-2 zone. I would have stayed in it until they started beating it regularly. Switching up defenses was one of my favorite Dean Smith philosophys. I have three issues with Roy's coaching philosophy: 1) we give up too many looks from 3-pt range, 2) we should play more zone in certain situations, and 3) we should avail ourselves of our timeouts more than we do. All in all though, he's one of the very best. I wouldn't trade him for Knight Lite or Cal for anything.

 

[DSouthr]

With Roy, we just have to accept what we get, both the good and the stuff to me the not so good. I will never understand why Roy is so stubborn when it comes to using zone defenses, that he sure did not learn from Dean, Dean was the master of switching up defenses. It was always a huge weapon for Dean, nearly every former opponent would comment about hard it was for them to adjust to the way Dean had his teams defend. Roy loves man and hates zones, I get that but any single defense can be adjusted to by a decent D-1 coach and it costs you games when to are so stubborn that you refuse to adjust right back at them. Dean always taught to keep the opponents off balance, not to allow them to settle in to a comfort zone, keep them thinking, a player that is having to think about what to do is not going to play as free and easy as one in that comfort zone.

 

[gary-7]

With Roy, we just have to accept what we get, both the good and the stuff to me the not so good. I will never understand why Roy is so stubborn when it comes to using zone defenses, that he sure did not learn from Dean, Dean was the master of switching up defenses. It was always a huge weapon for Dean, nearly every former opponent would comment about hard it was for them to adjust to the way Dean had his teams defend. Roy loves man and hates zones, I get that but any single defense can be adjusted to by a decent D-1 coach and it costs you games when to are so stubborn that you refuse to adjust right back at them. Dean always taught to keep the opponents off balance, not to allow them to settle in to a comfort zone, keep them thinking, a player that is having to think about what to do is not going to play as free and easy as one in that comfort zone.

True, and the stubbornness makes us easier to game-plan for. Even Dean's one achilles heel through much of his career was when he was too wedded to his system, albeit the best system ever invented. Being such an icon, sometimes opposing coaches studied him and attacked his tendencies hoping he wouldn't stray. Bobby Knight did that in 1981 and 84 in NCAA games. The irony was that Dean had the most brilliant basketball mind in history and could adjust to any situation in a flash --- but occasionally he was his own worst enemy by waiting too long.

As you said, though, Dean was more willing to be multiple on a moment's notice. I think Roy doesn't give himself enough credit --- his stubbornness is born from a bit of insecurity and maintaining a comfort zone. I've seen Roy make sweet in-game adjustments, but sometimes it seems like he sees that as a cop-out.

 

[GACMAN]

I was at a fundraising dinner and missed the game.....hearing about the questionable foul at the end on MP.....anyone have video of it? I have looked but can't seem to locate it......

 

[BillyL]

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To me, the keys to this team reaching their potential are simple. Play Meeks as much as possible. Play Britt less. Play Pinson more at the 2.

Britt only got 16 minutes yesterday. Pinson 10 due to illness. Paige with 34 and Berry 30.
Who would you give Nate's minutes to . . ? He's probably right where he should be, Paige also . .
Being as thin as we are at the 3 spot, Theo has the height to cover our opponents WF, besides Justin, we have no one but 6'1" (or less) guards to play the first 3 positions on the floor. Theo has a 24 minute game average with that 10 minutes from last night included, he seems to be right where he should be for a non-starter.
As of today, Nate is our 2nd best 3PT % shooter, his assist to TO ratio is better than Joel's. I'll agree that Britt's defense needs to get better, but, can't that be said for the whole team . . ? It could have yesterday . .

jmho

 

[gary-7]

I was at a fundraising dinner and missed the game.....hearing about the questionable foul at the end on MP.....anyone have video of it? I have looked but can't seem to locate it......

Its on the goheels highlights and on YouTube. Pretty blatant.

 

[BillyL]

I was at a fundraising dinner and missed the game.....hearing about the questionable foul at the end on MP.....anyone have video of it? I have looked but can't seem to locate it......

Marcus got nailed on that final play. Lambert hit him so hard he went floor sliding about 10 feet . .

 

[coryfly]

Britt only got 16 minutes yesterday. Pinson 10 due to illness. Paige with 34 and Berry 30.
Who would you give Nate's minutes to . . ? He's probably right where he should be, Paige also . .
Being as thin as we are at the 3 spot, Theo has the height to cover our opponents WF, besides Justin, we have no one but 6'1" (or less) guards to play the first 3 positions on the floor. Theo has a 24 minute game average with that 10 minutes from last night included, he seems to be right where he should be for a non-starter.
As of today, Nate is our 2nd best 3PT % shooter, his assist to TO ratio is better than Joel's. I'll agree that Britt's defense needs to get better, but, can't that be said for the whole team . . ? It could have yesterday . .

jmho

Yeah, I'm not sure. I just the +/- numbers on Nate are so glaring that in bigger games his minutes always hurt us. Last night Theo did not at all at the 2, which is where his big +/- numbers have come from. What I would like to see is when Nate is in, Theo is at the 2. I would like to see how that works.

 

[gary-7]

Britt only got 16 minutes yesterday. Pinson 10 due to illness. Paige with 34 and Berry 30.
Who would you give Nate's minutes to . . ? He's probably right where he should be, Paige also . .
Being as thin as we are at the 3 spot, Theo has the height to cover our opponents WF, besides Justin, we have no one but 6'1" (or less) guards to play the first 3 positions on the floor. Theo has a 24 minute game average with that 10 minutes from last night included, he seems to be right where he should be for a non-starter.
As of today, Nate is our 2nd best 3PT % shooter, his assist to TO ratio is better than Joel's. I'll agree that Britt's defense needs to get better, but, can't that be said for the whole team . . ? It could have yesterday . .

jmho

Billy, we we're playing short-handed for sure. Theo was in bad straits, didn't practice and would have been better off not playing. That hurts our rotation tremendously.
Nate has improved offensively but no sugar-coating, him having to play extended minutes in half-court defensive match-ups is unlikely to end well.
Its a shame Kenny W's offensive confidence hasn't emerged yet. I still might've given him some run yesterday for defensive purposes.

 

[Heelicious]

Its on the goheels highlights and on YouTube. Pretty blatant.

Wow- ths

Marcus got nailed on that final play. Lambert hit him so hard he went floor sliding about 10 feet . .

Wow - BillyL - thanks for posting that.... now it makes me even more enraged. That is a flagrant 1. Marcus is lucky he didn't break something.... and the big thug goon just goes on as if nothing happened. If an elbow is thrown in that situation, that is something that can be reviewed..... that was close to throwing an elbow. Here is an instance where I think Roy could've done more to defend his guys on the court....

Think about this... its not in his character at all.... but if MP had done like a Dookie or so many other kids and flop / faked an injury, stayed on the floor, etc, they would've gone back and reviewed whether the play is flagrant. Not saying MP should've done it, and it all happens real time.... but WHERE IN THE WORLD were the officials on this play? You can see a baseline referee about 5 feet from Marcus, when Marcus gets launched about 8 feet.... that refs job is to watch play in the lane..... instead he disappears into the crowd and gazes at the perimeter jump shooter... which doesn't even matter.... they are going to review if the shot gets off in time on the replay no matter what..... incompetent homer coward!!

 

[HeelFan58]

Britt only got 16 minutes yesterday. Pinson 10 due to illness. Paige with 34 and Berry 30.
Who would you give Nate's minutes to . . ? He's probably right where he should be, Paige also . .
Being as thin as we are at the 3 spot, Theo has the height to cover our opponents WF, besides Justin, we have no one but 6'1" (or less) guards to play the first 3 positions on the floor. Theo has a 24 minute game average with that 10 minutes from last night included, he seems to be right where he should be for a non-starter.
As of today, Nate is our 2nd best 3PT % shooter, his assist to TO ratio is better than Joel's. I'll agree that Britt's defense needs to get better, but, can't that be said for the whole team . . ? It could have yesterday . .

jmho

some of this crowd just loves to beat Nate down even though none of our guards seem to play a lot of defense. When some average G blows by Marcus or Berry it's OK but when it's Nate then the venom flies.

 

[Spacegrass]

Didn't get to see the game. But by the box score the Rick Barnes hold overs killed us. Barnes isn't even the coach anymore and his presence still haunts us when it comes to playing Texas.

 

[HeelFan58]

I was at a fundraising dinner and missed the game.....hearing about the questionable foul at the end on MP.....anyone have video of it? I have looked but can't seem to locate it......

Marcus was in a bad position he was right there with Brice (who had lambert blocked out) and nobody was there to block out Felix.

 

[gary-7]

some of this crowd just loves to beat Nate down even though none of our guards seem to play a lot of defense. When some average G blows by Marcus or Berry it's OK but when it's Nate then the venom flies.

Not beating on Nate. It is what it is. And few blow by Berry. Their defensive abilities are light years apart. JB was the direct cause of 6 Texas TOs, as detailed above.

 

[HeelFan58]

Not beating on Nate. It is what it is. And few blow by Berry. Their defensive abilities are light years apart. JB was the direct cause of 6 Texas TOs, as detailed above.

sorry but none of our guard's defense is light years apart from anybody.

 

[BillyL]

sorry but none of our guard's defense is light years apart from anybody.

This . .

 

[coryfly]

Berry is a much better defender than Nate but he did not play very well yesterday. He did some good things on D but made enough mistakes that it was noticeable as well. I agree some tend to glorify everything Berry does and down Nate too much. I'm not sure what the deal is with that. Berry is considerably better though. He still has his games where he struggles, just like everyone else.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

Wow- ths

.... but WHERE IN THE WORLD were the officials on this play?

That's normal, acceptable gameplay in Big XII footba.....errr....basketball.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Britt showed up well offensively against Davidson, but it's getting downright painful to watch on the defensive end. One of the biggest causes of our last 3 losses is his defense (or lack thereof).

 

[GACMAN]

Marcus got nailed on that final play. Lambert hit him so hard he went floor sliding about 10 feet . .

That low official is to busy trying not to run over kids on the baseline to be paying attention to the game....he even looks back and down when he bumps into one of those kids....get the firckin kids off the court...did not realize it was this bad....what a bunch of BS...man I hate Texas...it is really nice to see them getting hammered by Baylor, TCU, the Agpies of A&M etc

 

[GACMAN]

That BS needs to be sent to the NCAA......

 

[HeelFan58]

It's probably time for us to forget that foul. The long carom bounced out to a guy who was all alone and able to put up a shot contested only by the clock. It was kind'a like a clip away from the play that didn't affect it.

 

[gary-7]

It's probably time for us to forget that foul. The long carom bounced out to a guy who was all alone and able to put up a shot contested only by the clock. It was kind'a like a clip away from the play that didn't affect it.

I agree with that somewhat, with the caveat that when you're the baseline ref your first responsibility on shots is what's happening under the basket, especially on that missed 3, which in last-second situations 8 outta 10 times you see some frenetic tip action on misses.
He may have let himself get distracted by the long rebound --- if he did that's still very bad mechanics on his part since it's the trail official's call on clock stuff --- or maybe, just maybe he was swallowing that whistle in the home gym.
Bad work on his part either way.

 

[HeelFan58]

I agree with that somewhat, with the caveat that when you're the baseline ref your first responsibility on shots is what's happening under the basket, especially on that missed 3, which in last-second situations 8 outta 10 times you see some frenetic tip action on misses.
He may have let himself get distracted by the long rebound --- if he did that's still very bad mechanics on his part since it's the trail official's call on clock stuff --- or maybe, just maybe he was swallowing that whistle in the home gym.
Bad work on his part either way.

swallowing the whistle in the home gym is where my money is.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

It's probably time for us to forget that foul. The long carom bounced out to a guy who was all alone and able to put up a shot contested only by the clock. It was kind'a like a clip away from the play that didn't affect it.

But the kicker is that the shot would've been at least half contested had Marcus not been sliding across the floor. He would've at least been run at!

 

[GACMAN]

swallowing the whistle in the home gym is where my money is.

If you watch that ref down low he flat out did not see it....he was looking down at the kid that he had bumped in to when MP got sent flying!!!!!