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Tebow

He could be a ticket seller for a minor league team struggling to put people in the seats.
 
I guess he might be good enough to play in Double A or something given his overall athletic ability, but I'd assume that if any team were to put him on their major league roster, after having taken 11 years off from baseball (and only having played as high as high school) that it would be a publicity grab.
 
Wasted talent. Hell of a "football" player if he weren't too stubborn to play another position.
No. He's better than 80% of the backups in the NFL right now. It's stupid that teams like the Cleveland Browns never gave him a shot. Hell, this is a league where Tarvaris Jackson made 34 career starts -- don't tell me Tebow can't find a home with some team.
 
So wait, he's so set on being a quarterback that he won't settle for another position on the football field, but he'll give an entirely different sport a try? o_O
 
So wait, he's so set on being a quarterback that he won't settle for another position on the football field, but he'll give an entirely different sport a try? o_O
He got treated like shit by the Jets. He's a Heisman Trophy winner and a National Championship QB (twice) and you want him to play only on punt return coverage? What year is this, 1969? He got a raw deal.

Did ESPN overhype this hell out of him and create massive Tebow fatigue? Yes. But that's ESPN's fault, not Tebow's fault.
 
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So wait, he's so set on being a quarterback that he won't settle for another position on the football field, but he'll give an entirely different sport a try? o_O

I don't have the links but I know I've read multiple stories where Tebow refused to play halfback. He wanted to be a QB, nothing else.

And I agree with THN on Tebow being at minimum a solid #2 QB in the NFL. But no team wants the media headache. I disagree with it, but that's just what it is.
 
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He may have gotten a raw deal from the Jets, I really don't care. But I thought it was pretty much understood that there were teams willing to give him a shot at other positions. So he could be playing football. But apparently he'd rather play a different sport than a different position.
 
I don't have the links but I know I've read multiple stories where Tebow refused to play halfback. He wanted to be a QB, nothing else.
This is true but isn't uncommon. Look no further than our own Marquise Williams. Under no circumstances was he going to switch positions.

And I agree with THN on Tebow being at minimum a solid #2 QB in the NFL. But no team wants the media headache. I disagree with it, but that's just what it is.
Yep! Correct, no team wants the headache, and that's such a shame because that's ESPN ruining a guy's career with their over-hype. If Tebow was a introverted guy who wasn't good-looking and was a good person but not as great of a person that he really is, he'd be a solid backup to possible starter somewhere right now.
 
Why is this guy still relevant? He was a 3rd tier NFL QB who was lucky enough to win one playoff game because of one good throw.

Nothing against the guy personally, but when was the last time the media gave so much attention to someone who's done so little?
 
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This is true but isn't uncommon. Look no further than our own Marquise Williams. Under no circumstances was he going to switch positions.


Yep! Correct, no team wants the headache, and that's such a shame because that's ESPN ruining a guy's career with their over-hype. If Tebow was a introverted guy who wasn't good-looking and was a good person but not as great of a person that he really is, he'd be a solid backup to possible starter somewhere right now.

The part I always had a problem with is that he is being over-scrutinized because he is a conservative christian. How many other players "Thank God..." or "Give praise to the man upstairs..." when they are being interviewed after games, or when they are accepting awards? Most athletes do. So, why is Tebow ANY different than that?

I've never understood the notion that we have to tear someone down to "humanize" them to be more like the rest of the public. The guy lives his life the right way and has morals -- give him props and move on.

Tebow gets the shaft... but somehow Mike Vick goes on this redemption tour for killing dogs.

This world is confusing sometimes.
 
The part I always had a problem with is that he is being over-scrutinized because he is a conservative christian. How many other players "Thank God..." or "Give praise to the man upstairs..." when they are being interviewed after games, or when they are accepting awards? Most athletes do. So, why is Tebow ANY different than that?

I've never understood the notion that we have to tear someone down to "humanize" them to be more like the rest of the public. The guy lives his life the right way and has morals -- give him props and move on.

Tebow gets the shaft... but somehow Mike Vick goes on this redemption tour for killing dogs.

This world is confusing sometimes.
You know the answer to your question. He's white.
 
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The Tebow hatred is a perfect indicator of just how stupid Americans are. They grow to hate a player and a man -- who has done NOTHING wrong in his life, has never been arrested, and has donated a ton to charity and is strong in his faith -- because a third party (ESPN and other media) chooses to over-hype him incessantly. Wow, Tebow doesn't want to move positions, big friggin whoop. How would you react if you were the treasurer for a company, and the president came to you and asked you to move to the mailroom? I'm guessing you wouldn't be thrilled.

Yet the same Americans who for some reason hate Tebow, find Mike Tyson -- a convicted rapist -- funny and likable because he was in The Hangover and like countless other dickhead athletes and celebs who've been arrested or are shitty people.
 
The Tebow hatred is a perfect indicator of just how stupid Americans are. They grow to hate a player and a man -- who has done NOTHING wrong in his life, has never been arrested, and has donated a ton to charity and is strong in his faith -- because a third party (ESPN and other media) chooses to over-hype him incessantly. Wow, Tebow doesn't want to move positions, big friggin whoop. How would you react if you were the treasurer for a company, and the president came to you and asked you to move to the mailroom? I'm guessing you wouldn't be thrilled.

Yet the same Americans who for some reason hate Tebow, find Mike Tyson -- a convicted rapist -- funny and likable because he was in The Hangover and like countless other dickhead athletes and celebs who've been arrested or are shitty people.

This is a pretty excellent post I admit. Not to say athletes who have done wrong can't redeem their lives, but people are unfair to Tebow sometimes.

I think much of the hate comes from the fact that he received a lot of attention for very little. That was my issue. Not Tebow himself.
 
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The part I always had a problem with is that he is being over-scrutinized because he is a conservative christian. How many other players "Thank God..." or "Give praise to the man upstairs..." when they are being interviewed after games, or when they are accepting awards? Most athletes do. So, why is Tebow ANY different than that?
You know the answer to your question. He's white.
Oh come on. Tebow is different because he experienced unparalleled success in college football and has a unique life story as someone born overseas to international missionaries who have continued that work to the present day. I would even argue that he wears his faith on his sleeve more than the players who simply give a passing thanks to God in post-game interviews or awards ceremonies. "Tebowing" was a thing, remember?

There are people who resent him for his success, for his very public displays of faith, and for the disproportionate amount of media attention he receives. You're really reaching to suggest racism is the culprit.
 
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Tebow didn't get a shot because he was never going to be able to be a 1st team QB and the NFL likes the 2nd team QB to either be a future #1QB or a vet with experience.

The rest of it is just Christians going bonkers because their man wasn't good enough in the pros, even though he was a great college QB. Heck, most first string QBs from major football schools don't turn out to be good NFL QBs.
 
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Oh come on. Tebow is different because he experienced unparalleled success in college football and has a unique life story as someone born overseas to international missionaries who have continued that work to the present day. I would even argue that he wears his faith on his sleeve more than the players who simply give a passing thanks to God in post-game interviews or awards ceremonies. "Tebowing" was a thing, remember?

There are people who resent him for his success, for his very public displays of faith, and for the disproportionate amount of media attention he receives. You're really reaching to suggest racism is the culprit.
Who said racism? I was agreeing with Blue's statement that he doesn't understand why the media loves to "humanize" great people and tear them down. Then he stated why do they pick on Tebow when lots of other football players reference their faith in every interview. My response is because he's white, therefore it's "safe" for the media to run with 'humanizing' him, partly due to subtle mocks at his staunch Christianity. The media couldn't touch that angle if Tebow was black. I'm not claiming racism, I'm just stating how the media does things. You know it's true, too.
 
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** One-post thread hijack **

I don't wanna start a new thread on this because it's just a random musing. I'm watching Championship Drive (a college football panel show on ESPNU) currently. Heather Dinich is on the panel today. I know she royally, royally sucked when she covered the ACC, but I'm still gonna give her a "would" for sure. She's looking good today.

** hijack over. Return to the Tebow **
 
At SEC Media Days he was asked if he was a virgin.
It was Clay Travis -- a well-known provocateur -- who technically asked whether Tebow was saving himself for marriage.

You might find a couple one-off examples, but there was never widespread criticism of Tebow's faith among the media. Criticizing him for being a devout Christian would be career suicide. And there was never any need for the media to pick on him for his faith since his performance offered plenty of material on its own. You're making the issue into something it's not IMO.
 
It was Clay Travis -- a well-known provocateur -- who technically asked whether Tebow was saving himself for marriage.

You might find a couple one-off examples, but there was never widespread criticism of Tebow's faith among the media. Criticizing him for being a devout Christian would be career suicide. And there was never any need for the media to pick on him for his faith since his performance offered plenty of material on its own. You're making the issue into something it's not IMO.
I'm not making it an issue at all. I don't really care if Tebow ever plays a down again in the NFL or not.

My issue is a broader one with the media and the public perception of what athletes and celebs are liked and who is disliked because of media coverage. This country has a nasty knack for loving low-lives and hating upstanding citizens.
 
What is Tebow's baseball background? I don't remember him playing at UF? Was he a college baseball prospect out of HS?
 
What is Tebow's baseball background? I don't remember him playing at UF? Was he a college baseball prospect out of HS?
He was all state his junior year of high school. That's the last time he played. I believe there were colleges that looked at him for baseball. Not sure if they offered a scholarship.
 
I do not believe this is racially motivated in the traditional sense, but on some level, of course it is. Everything ultimately boils down to money. Tebow is a polarizing figure because he comes across as someone who is as close to perfection as you can get -- and the fact that this image of perfection is also a Christian conservative really bothers a lot of people.

I don't honestly believe ESPN gives two sh!ts...they just know this guy has ratings written all over him, simply b/c you have one side who are genuinely motivated by him and see Tebow as finally a "good guy" you can root for...and then you have a larger group of people who are simply waiting with baited breath for him to fail. There are (IMO, sick) people out there who want everyone else to fail b/c it makes themselves feel better about their own lives. ESPN isn't taking a side - they are simply exploiting it for their own gain.

On another note...I feel like Tebow is trying to find himself a bit career-wise. He's probably realizing the NFL isn't going to work out and he's just searching for anything he can grab onto...nothing wrong with this. We all have probably changed careers at some point b/c we were looking for the best option. If he has a baseball background and wants to give it a shot - more power to him. But it doesn't deserve this much media hype. Nate Robinson just tried out for the Seahawks...did anyone here even hear about it, much less see this much attention played to it? Tebow is in his mid-20's and trying to figure out his career...give the guy a break. He's no different than any of the rest of us when we got out of college.
 
My response is because he's white, therefore it's "safe" for the media to run with 'humanizing' him, partly due to subtle mocks at his staunch Christianity. The media couldn't touch that angle if Tebow was black.

Can you imagine the backlash if they did? They'd probably have to cancel PTI and just run an apology show daily for a half hour to feel like they atoned for their hatred.

ETA: Oops, I realize they already do run an apology show... its called OTL.
 
I don't honestly believe ESPN gives two sh!ts...they just know this guy has ratings written all over him, simply b/c you have one side who are genuinely motivated by him and see Tebow as finally a "good guy" you can root for...and then you have a larger group of people who are simply waiting with baited breath for him to fail.
Nailed it. (Sports) media feeds people what they want to hear about, so we only have ourselves to blame.
 
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