Texas treatment of their former legendary Coaches is Shameful!

[Tigertown_a_Rick]

Just wondered what others thought about the disrespectable and dispictable way that Texas treats legendary Coaches who they want replaced?

As most probably remember, Mack Brown whose teams won and played for a National Title in football, was unceremoniously shoved out the door when the powerful Longhorn boosters wanted a change, and now Rick Barnes who has won more games than any Longhorn Basketball Coach before him, was given the choice to fire assistants or face the axe.....He chose the axe instead, and is now rumored to be heading to Tennessee?

Of course, I could care less about Rick Barnes after his disrespect towards DES back in the day, but I just found it interesting that Texas seems to have NO respect in the way that they handle the exit of Coaches who have done more than many others that have coached the Longhorns in Football and Basketball, before they arrived......

Never have liked the Dallas Cowboys, and liked em' even less after Jerry Jones took over and replaced Coach Tom Landry....In a strange way, the Texas Longhorns seem to replicate the way that Jerry Jones handled Tom Landry's departure?

Comments and Opinions welcomed as always!

 

[mikeirbyusa]

With the talent pool right there in Texas there is no reason they shouldn't be contenders in Football and Basketball every single year.

Been amazed Barnes lasted this long, very under-performing with the talent he has had.

 

[Tigertown_a_Rick]

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
With the talent pool right there in Texas there is no reason they shouldn't be contenders in Football and Basketball every single year.

Been amazed Barnes lasted this long, very under-performing with the talent he has had.

Can't argue that, but what kind of Basketball History does Texas have other than Barnes and Pender?

Agree that they have the resources to be a great basketball program like you mentioned, but it just hasn't happened for one reason or the other?

 

[thaUNCshow]

Originally posted by Tigertown@Rick:

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
With the talent pool right there in Texas there is no reason they shouldn't be contenders in Football and Basketball every single year.

Been amazed Barnes lasted this long, very under-performing with the talent he has had.

Can't argue that, but what kind of Basketball History does Texas have other than Barnes and Pender?

Agree that they have the resources to be a great basketball program like you mentioned, but it just hasn't happened for one reason or the other?

No one does less with more than Rick Barnes

 

[gary-7]

Originally posted by Tigertown@Rick:

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
With the talent pool right there in Texas there is no reason they shouldn't be contenders in Football and Basketball every single year.

Been amazed Barnes lasted this long, very under-performing with the talent he has had.

Can't argue that, but what kind of Basketball History does Texas have other than Barnes and Pender?

Agree that they have the resources to be a great basketball program like you mentioned, but it just hasn't happened for one reason or the other?

Texas is nothing but a very rich pretender in basketball. No elite pedigree whatsoever. Barnes parlayed some modest success at Clemson (amid his jackassery) into a fat, cushy deal with said program, and was able to tap into a decent recruiting ground and be very competitive but his results were well... just OK. Barnes is just another coach whose teams substitute "physical" shortcuts for a sound system.

That being said, the Big 12 in general (outside of KU) is just OK, and a better coach with a better system could likely turn Texas into a more consistently competitive program.

 

[WoadBlue]

Originally posted by gary-7:

Originally posted by Tigertown@Rick:

Originally posted by mikeirbyusa:
With the talent pool right there in Texas there is no reason they shouldn't be contenders in Football and Basketball every single year.

Been amazed Barnes lasted this long, very under-performing with the talent he has had.

Can't argue that, but what kind of Basketball History does Texas have other than Barnes and Pender?

Agree that they have the resources to be a great basketball program like you mentioned, but it just hasn't happened for one reason or the other?

Texas is nothing but a very rich pretender in basketball. No elite pedigree whatsoever. Barnes parlayed some modest success at Clemson (amid his jackassery) into a fat, cushy deal with said program, and was able to tap into a decent recruiting ground and be very competitive but his results were well... just OK. Barnes is just another coach whose teams substitute "physical" shortcuts for a sound system.

That being said, the Big 12 in general (outside of KU) is just OK, and a better coach with a better system could likely turn Texas into a more consistently competitive program.

Texas reached a couple of FFs in the 1940s, and then again in 2003.

The biggest handicap that Texas basketball has is that there are large numbers of TX high schools, and even entire regiions, in which baseball is defintely a bigger sport than basketball.

But there is a very good talent in TX, and UT is capable of drawing major national talent - if iut has the riught coach.

 

[redyns54]

I disagree with the thought of feeling sorry for Rick Barnes, Mack Brown, etc. Football and men's basketball are both big business. And these coaches are paid very well. His isn't church ball where you can afford to accept mediocrity aND pat someone on the head for their unpaid services. No matter how great and devoted the coaches past, he was very well paid the whole way. When things start to, or continue to, slip then changes must be made.

 

[deandisciple]

The title legendary and Rick Barnes do not mix well in a sentence.

 

[coolwaterunc]

Any chance Clemson considers bringing him back?
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[redyns54]

No. Clemson's AD, the same genius who hired Brian Gregory at GT while he was AD there, for some reason felt moved to extend Brad Brownells contract last year. No doubt inspired by their thrilling run in the NIT. Basketball doesn't mean neatly enough at Clemson for them to buy out a six year contract.

 

[coolwaterunc]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Oh well, I would have loved to watch us smack Rick Barnes around some.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[Bur-Heel]

Barnes is far from legendary!!

 

[deandisciple]

legendary doosh loser

 

[trollbaby]

Mack Brown could have stayed a Carolina and gone 8-4 the rest of his career, retired and we would have named the Blue Zone after him. Instead he wanted a Natty, got it and then got what every Texas coach will get eventually, a boot out the door. Now, he's back buddying up with Coach Fed and being embraced by the school he left. That should tell you all you need to know about Texas and UNC!

Barnes, on the other hand was never going to get out of the ACC cellar with the Tigers and was smart to go to Texas. He did make a FF run with TJ Ford which earned him 5 more years than his predecessor Penders. If he was smart and/or a great coach, he should have positioned himself for a job in the league. Apparently he is neither, so I just hope he invested his millions well! Wonder if Brownell will become his buddy?!?!?LOL!!!!!!!!

 

[redyns54]

Barnes did a good job at Clemson. Got them to the sweet sixteen once. I didn't care for Barnes antics at CU, but the guy knew what he was doing. In his first season, when they had a bunch that more resembled a church team, and was getting beaten at home by Carolina by about 40, he went off in frustration because every shot they took inside was getting blocked and there was a huge discrepancy in fouls due to UNCs size advantage. As he argued, the crowd went nuts. He figured out real quick that the CU fan base didn't care about winning as much as someone ranting about then fact that the fouls weren't called equal, no matter the huge gap in talent. At that point he knew as long as he fed the ref conspiracy against Clemson theory, that he would be a hero. But he did a good job there. Turned everything into a street fight because of their lack talent. Were especially tough to beat at Clemson. He knew he could only recruit to be a mid pack type team, so he left for the greener pastures of Texas.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

OP, is the Texas athletics department supposed to operate as a charity for washed-up coaches?

Mack Brown received more than $21 million for the four seasons in which he posted an overall win percentage of .588 and a conference win percentage of .514. Would you and your fellow Tar Heel fans (and your AD) feel so charitable toward Roy if he were to go 37-35 in ACC play over the next four seasons? Perhaps you'd give him a little leeway -- seeing as he has twice as many national championships as Mack Brown -- but, if so, I suspect it wouldn't be by much. Rick Barnes received roughly $18 million to win all of three NCAA tourney games over the last seven years, never surviving the first weekend, and more than $10 million to post a .486 conference win percentage over the last four seasons, with only one winning season in conference play.

Since all of this is evidently very far from constituting sufficiently generous treatment in your view, would you mind describing what the appropriate level of generosity would look like to you in each case (presuming that it falls short of life tenure)?

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Don't worry TX fan, you won't find any "Barnes Lovers" here. However we do like Mack, but it's the off-season and we need junk to talk about.

What have you done for me lately...........................................sad state but it is a Business afterall.