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it wasn't just their attack on kendall. their whole game plan against carolina was physical aggression bordering on assault. worst display of criminality i've ever seen on a basketball court. go to he// cretin.
The great problem was the officials. They allowed it by calling the game according to 'let 'em play.' The SDSU-Creighton was called very similarly. with both teams getting away with a number of fouls. And then at the very end, an official called a touch foul, which did decide the game. That was terrible officiating, just beyond awful. Ot was like a baseball HP ump calling a very strict strike zone the entire game, and then when the Home team is the plate with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th, the HP ump suddenly is calling a huge strike zone.

That kind of major flipping in officiating is worse than bad officiating that at least remains consistent all the game through.
 
That kind of major flipping in officiating is worse than bad officiating that at least remains consistent all the game through.
agree 100%. And the announcers and various other idiots don't help by droning on and on about getting those late calls right. How about have enough of a brain to understand that a foul that prevents a score midway through the first half has just as much impact on the final score as a late foul does. Get the officiating right, and get it consistently right. I've been on the soapbox about this for years...the NCAA has the wherewithal to take control away from the conferences and train the officials.

I'd gladly trade the ability to review plays in the last two minutes for officiating that didn't randomly suck bad enough to make that necessary.
 
agree 100%. And the announcers and various other idiots don't help by droning on and on about getting those late calls right. How about have enough of a brain to understand that a foul that prevents a score midway through the first half has just as much impact on the final score as a late foul does. Get the officiating right, and get it consistently right. I've been on the soapbox about this for years...the NCAA has the wherewithal to take control away from the conferences and train the officials.

I'd gladly trade the ability to review plays in the last two minutes for officiating that didn't randomly suck bad enough to make that necessary.
Correct. Bad officiating hurts as much in the first minute as in the last. And the worst officiating is the inconsistent kind.
 
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The only thing left for me to cheer for was Cretin losing! Thos punk arses should never win anything again for their assault on Butter! Sending in goons isn't bball, but it does reveal their lack of character!
I remember it like it was yesterday, and @WoadBlue is spot on; it was the officials fault for allowing a game that was physical far beyond what the rules are supposed to allow.
 
I remember it like it was yesterday, and @WoadBlue is spot on; it was the officials fault for allowing a game that was physical far beyond what the rules are supposed to allow.

I recall a play that UNC had the ball, Cant remember who shot it but Zeller was going down the lane for a rebound and the huge dude from craytun turned and shoved Zeller so hard in the chest it knocked him flat on his back in the lane and 2 refs standing within 10 feet and called nothing.

Here it is...

 
I recall a play that UNC had the ball, Cant remember who shot it but Zeller was going down the lane for a rebound and the huge dude from craytun turned and shoved Zeller so hard in the chest it knocked him flat on his back in the lane and 2 refs standing within 10 feet and called nothing.

Here it is...

yeah that's ridiculous. Letting them play like that is what ruined things for us that year that Marshall got taken out, probably would have had a natty. I seriously would still kick those idiot refs in the balls if I got the chance.

And speaking of Zeller and officiating, I was at the home game with dook where Austin Rivers beat us with a jumper at the buzzer. Talk about an officiating ripoff; I could go on and on about it but on one play, one of the dook players (I think it was a Plumlee) gave Zeller a monster shove in the back as he was going up for a rebound. If you recall, he actually accidentally tipped the ball into their basket because of that, and no whistle. It was ridiculous, the shove moved him horizontally through space so much that no decent ref could have missed it. My seat was close. If I saw it from the stands, the ref who was right there looking at it should have whistled it.

That was a prime example of a play not at the end that made a difference in the outcome. Take away that bucket and we win. There were plenty of others like it. The officiating in that game took a 180 degree swing from the first half to the second.
 
I recall a play that UNC had the ball, Cant remember who shot it but Zeller was going down the lane for a rebound and the huge dude from craytun turned and shoved Zeller so hard in the chest it knocked him flat on his back in the lane and 2 refs standing within 10 feet and called nothing.

Here it is...

That guys should have been ejected, a technical called as well.
 
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yeah that's ridiculous. Letting them play like that is what ruined things for us that year that Marshall got taken out, probably would have had a natty. I seriously would still kick those idiot refs in the balls if I got the
And speaking of Zeller and officiating, I was at the home game with dook where Austin Rivers beat us with a jumper at the buzzer. Talk about an officiating ripoff; I could go on and on about it but on one play, one of the dook players (I think it was a Plumlee) gave Zeller a monster shove in the back as he was going up for a rebound. If you recall, he actually accidentally tipped the ball into their basket because of that, and no whistle. It was ridiculous, the shove moved him horizontally through space so much that no decent ref could have missed it. My seat was close. If I saw it from the stands, the ref who was right there looking at it should have whistled it.

That was a prime example of a play not at the end that made a difference in the outcome. Take away that bucket and we win. There were plenty of others like it. The officiating in that game took a 180 degree swing from the first half to the second.

The ref who was right there looking at it was Brian Kersey who now books ACC referees. He’s a huge dook fan & can now send us Lee Cassell, Michael Stevens, or any other ref that hates us anytime he wants. Kersey & Hess were boys btw, probably still are.
 
I remember it like it was yesterday, and @WoadBlue is spot on; it was the officials fault for allowing a game that was physical far beyond what the rules are supposed to allow.
part of the blame goes to announcers. when refs allow blatant fouling and physical aggression the announcers, rather than being outraged, will often praise it as "letting them play." perhaps they're hoping to steal some ratings from mma. in any event, it's "letting them foul" not letting them play.
 
part of the blame goes to announcers. when refs allow blatant fouling and physical aggression the announcers, rather than being outraged, will often praise it as "letting them play." perhaps they're hoping to steal some ratings from mma. in any event, it's "letting them foul" not letting them play.
agree 100%, except I think that mindset represents the average fan as well. They're just reflective of the audience, or voicing what they think the audience wants, which is uninterrupted action with little regard for the purity of the game. It would be tremendously helpful if they exhibited some love for the game of basketball and objected to overly physical play instead of pandering to knuckleheads.
 
I recall a play that UNC had the ball, Cant remember who shot it but Zeller was going down the lane for a rebound and the huge dude from craytun turned and shoved Zeller so hard in the chest it knocked him flat on his back in the lane and 2 refs standing within 10 feet and called nothing.

Here it is...

When refs refuse to call fouls, players will foul, and get harder in the fouls.

Today's Creighton players have no part in that game or that season. But the refs of that game do. They allowed it all to happen.
 
I remember it like it was yesterday, and @WoadBlue is spot on; it was the officials fault for allowing a game that was physical far beyond what the rules are supposed to allow.
I was screaming at the TV early on in that game, including saying that if the refs did not use the whistle effectively, somebody was likely to get hurt.

Refs who call games like that should be drummed out of their jobs.
 
agree 100%, except I think that mindset represents the average fan as well. They're just reflective of the audience, or voicing what they think the audience wants, which is uninterrupted action with little regard for the purity of the game. It would be tremendously helpful if they exhibited some love for the game of basketball and objected to overly physical play instead of pandering to knuckleheads.
I think a lot of fans see it only their way: for example, the worst set of thugs for more than 1 season I've ever seen was the Georgtown bunch around Ewing and just after him. Talk about goons every game. Of course, Georgetown fans loved those teams and loved every time a player got away with obvious fouls, and most called it racism for refs to call fouls against Georgetown as they should have been called. And those same Hoya fans would screech bloody murder any time any other BE team would get away with a single hard foul against any Georgetown player.

The game has slowly gotten worse since then, as that BE type officiating became nationalized.
 
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Goons have no place in sports (except the occasional hockey slap fest)! It isn't letting them play because this assumes that they are trying to play basketball! I have played, coached, and watched it for almost 60 years! The physicality of teams like Houston and Alabama is at the limit of actual bball. It can be painful and aggressive, but it is also within the rules. (most of the time) The physicality of puke and Tennessee on the other hand is a coach intentionally abusing the rules because they count on either their mystique or the fact that refs "can't call them all!" This is punk behavior, but not criminal! What Cretin did, was sending in peeps that didn't contribute one thing except intentionally dangerous hard fouls! A guy who is only worth 5 fouls to your team is not a baller, he is a goon. If you employ goons, you should be removed from coaching!
 
It can be painful and aggressive, but it is also within the rules. (most of the time) The physicality of puke and Tennessee on the other hand is a coach intentionally abusing the rules because they count on either their mystique or the fact that refs "can't call them all!" This is punk behavior, but not criminal!
there it is! So happy that someone understands that dook (under K) would play to win by whatever they could get away with instead of just straight up playing basketball. K was smart enough to understand that the refs can not call everything, and he coached his players to avoid fouls while fouling, and extract fouls that weren't really fouls by that standard. Here's an example of that, and there are many, many more..



There used to be a hilarious compilation of dook flopping, but I couldn't find it.
 
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They flopped on defense and grabbed jerseys or kicked out their legs or gave that ridiculous head whip on every play! Blojo made a living grabbing jerseys and pulling guys down on top of him while he was flopping on D! Hmmmm.....maybe he was foreshadowing that Titanic video!
 
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Goons have no place in sports (except the occasional hockey slap fest)! It isn't letting them play because this assumes that they are trying to play basketball! I have played, coached, and watched it for almost 60 years! The physicality of teams like Houston and Alabama is at the limit of actual bball. It can be painful and aggressive, but it is also within the rules. (most of the time) The physicality of puke and Tennessee on the other hand is a coach intentionally abusing the rules because they count on either their mystique or the fact that refs "can't call them all!" This is punk behavior, but not criminal! What Cretin did, was sending in peeps that didn't contribute one thing except intentionally dangerous hard fouls! A guy who is only worth 5 fouls to your team is not a baller, he is a goon. If you employ goons, you should be removed from coaching!
And how do you remove such guys from coaching when (A) that list historically features front and center John Thompson and Nolan Richardson, and (B) the refs are not calling the fouls on the players actually thugging up the court?
 
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yeah that's ridiculous. Letting them play like that is what ruined things for us that year that Marshall got taken out, probably would have had a natty. I seriously would still kick those idiot refs in the balls if I got the chance.

And speaking of Zeller and officiating, I was at the home game with dook where Austin Rivers beat us with a jumper at the buzzer. Talk about an officiating ripoff; I could go on and on about it but on one play, one of the dook players (I think it was a Plumlee) gave Zeller a monster shove in the back as he was going up for a rebound. If you recall, he actually accidentally tipped the ball into their basket because of that, and no whistle. It was ridiculous, the shove moved him horizontally through space so much that no decent ref could have missed it. My seat was close. If I saw it from the stands, the ref who was right there looking at it should have whistled it.

That was a prime example of a play not at the end that made a difference in the outcome. Take away that bucket and we win. There were plenty of others like it. The officiating in that game took a 180 degree swing from the first half to the second.
Yes, I was there too, and it was Plumlee with the push in the back, moving Zeller forward so he tipped the ball. In front of God and everyone.
 
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