The NEW Roots is better than the OLD Roots.

[strummingram]

Been watching it on the History Channel and it's intense.

I was boy, maybe 9 or 10, when the original was broadcast and was only allowed to watch a little bit of it. I have watched it a few times as an adult. Lots of 1970's TV stars in the series. But, the depiction of the new series is just incredible. It's been a lot more truthful from a few historical aspects. One, in particular, is the overt complicity of the African tribes themselves in slave-trading and slavery, in general. However, it still makes me feel terrible that our culture once perpetrated such a thing.

I'm not sure that this subject matter and vividness is always a good thing for the public. Our culture is still reeling from the racial divide and effects of the war. I just wonder if this kind of thing will make it worse! People seem to have difficulty separating the past from the present.

I was also disappointed to find out that Alex Haley probably plagiarized some of his story. Still... it's a great film and really makes the original very obsolete.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

I was also disappointed to find out that Alex Haley probably plagiarized some of his story. Still... it's a great film and really makes the original very obsolete.

It wasn't so much he plagiarized it as he just made a bunch of stuff up. That doesn't bother me at all, but it bothered other people because he (Haley) branded it as historical non-fiction.

Have they gotten to Alamance County yet in the show? I'm not watching it.

 

[strummingram]

It wasn't so much he plagiarized it as he just made a bunch of stuff up. That doesn't bother me at all, but it bothered other people because he (Haley) branded it as historical non-fiction.

Have they gotten to Alamance County yet in the show? I'm not watching it.

It ended last night with Kizzy being raped by the master she was sold to in NC, didn't say where. And, then ALMOST drowning herself with the baby from the rape. But, of course she doesn't actually follow through with that. Her son is Chicken George, a mulatto.

 

[Raising Heel]

Snoop Dogg does not approve of it.

 

[strummingram]

Snoop Dogg does not approve of it.

Yeah, i saw that. I actually understand what he had to say. That was the motivation for the comment about not being sure it's good for the public. I'm sure people who saw the first one remember how it sort of made race relations a bit strained. There's nothing wrong with knowing what happened. But, it helps to apply that knowledge and make sure we push ourselves to be as highly-evolved as possible. So, in 200 years, we don't have too much that will be considered absurd by the standards of the future days. It's impossible to know what the future will be like, but I think we all know in our hearts if you're doing something that is helping us, or hurting us.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

The new Roots' director's response to Snoop Dogg's criticism is hilarious. He owned him.

 

[tarheel0910]

I'm a little bummed out. I thought this was going to be a thread about the band.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I'm a little bummed out. I thought this was going to be a thread about the band.

Word. I think I'm going to hijack it.

The Roots are one of the most underrated hip hop groups of all time. I saw them live at Ziggy's in Winston in 1996 (I think) and it remains one of the top 3 shows I've ever been to. First of all, they played for over 3 hours - maybe over 3.5 hours. Secondly, if you've never been to Ziggy's, it's a small, quaint little spot. I stood probably 15 feet from Black Thought at one point. Lastly, the izm was being smoked by just about everyone and everyone was in a sharing mood. I literally was double-fisting it with blunts at one point.

As far as their albums, I like Do You Want More, Illadelph Halflife, and Things Fall Apart but I absolutely love their live album (The Roots Come Alive) that was recorded mostly from a show they did in Zurich, Switzerland. I was soooo disappointed with Phrenology though. Didn't dig on that at all. I'm not familiar with any of their stuff since Phrenology came out.

Are you a fan, @tarheel0910?

 

[tarheel0910]

Word. I think I'm going to hijack it.

The Roots are one of the most underrated hip hop groups of all time. I saw them live at Ziggy's in Winston in 1996 (I think) and it remains one of the top 3 shows I've ever been to. First of all, they played for over 3 hours - maybe over 3.5 hours. Secondly, if you've never been to Ziggy's, it's a small, quaint little spot. I stood probably 15 feet from Black Thought at one point. Lastly, the izm was being smoked by just about everyone and everyone was in a sharing mood. I literally was double-fisting it with blunts at one point.

As far as their albums, I like Do You Want More, Illadelph Halflife, and Things Fall Apart but I absolutely love their live album (The Roots Come Alive) that was recorded mostly from a show they did in Zurich, Switzerland. I was soooo disappointed with Phrenology though. Didn't dig on that at all. I'm not familiar with any of their stuff since Phrenology came out.

Are you a fan, @tarheel0910?

I like them. Never bought one of their albums, but I've got a lot of music by them downloaded. I'm a fan of pretty much all music, that's why the worst band thread saddens me.

 

[Raising Heel]

...that's why the worst band thread saddens me.

How dare you.

 

[heelmanwilm]

I wasnt allowed to watch the original. My dad claimed it was "all bullshit". Thats okay, i still have that pic in my mind of his expression when my daughter showed up with a mixed race boyfriend.

 

[heelmanwilm]

I like them. Never bought one of their albums, but I've got a lot of music by them downloaded. I'm a fan of pretty much all music, that's why the worst band thread saddens me.

They remind me of talking heads. Have several of their songs downloaded

 

[Raising Heel]

I saw them live at Ziggy's in Winston in 1996 (I think) and it remains one of the top 3 shows I've ever been to.

I've seen several shows there, including George Clinton and P-Funk there in 199? which was incredible. It's basically a giant wooden porch, and it was buckling throughout the entire show from people jumping around.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I've seen several shows there, including George Clinton and P-Funk there in 199? which was incredible. It's basically a giant wooden porch, and it was buckling throughout the entire show from people jumping around.

Yeah, that place is kind of a dump. But great place to see a show.

I saw P-Funk in the gymnasium of Hampden-Sydney College during Greek Week of 1995. I got hit with a broken drumstick.

 

[TarHeelMark]

How does ziggy's compare to cats cradle?

 

[Raising Heel]

How does ziggy's compare to cats cradle?

For all its fame, Cat's Cradle is nothing more than a giant box with a stage. Those concrete floors are hell on your knees after a couple hours. Almost everybody has to stand at the same level looking up at the stage, which is bad for short people.

Ziggy's was a dump, like slinger says, but it had some charm. The bar was inside along with some pool tables and restrooms. The audience and stage were actually outside, but they enclosed the space when it was especially cold or hot outside. What I liked is that the "seating" (everybody stands) was broken into three levels like theater seating so that the top two levels were actually looking down to the stage. That was the old venue, anyway. It closed down for several years but I believe it reopened a few years ago in a new location.

 

[heelz2345]

I was at Memorial Hall when Fallon came to do a show at UNC. The Roots played the whole time before the show began and during every "commercial" break. The place was rocking. Seeing them in a live setting was pretty incredible

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

I think last night's episode on Chicken George was a bit much for me... too graphic! I did not like watching the cock fights at all and the sword fight, ughhhhhhhh that was bloody to say the least! I cannot believe men would do crap like that to prove who the "better" man was! I think I now understand why men tend to be "pounding the chest, I am man, hear ME roar" types... it is in the DNA apparently! Crazy! smh

Please tell me those were mechanical chickens they used! LOL that was awful

 

[HeelFan58]

Been watching it on the History Channel and it's intense.

I was boy, maybe 9 or 10, when the original was broadcast and was only allowed to watch a little bit of it. I have watched it a few times as an adult. Lots of 1970's TV stars in the series. But, the depiction of the new series is just incredible. It's been a lot more truthful from a few historical aspects. One, in particular, is the overt complicity of the African tribes themselves in slave-trading and slavery, in general. However, it still makes me feel terrible that our culture once perpetrated such a thing.

I'm not sure that this subject matter and vividness is always a good thing for the public. Our culture is still reeling from the racial divide and effects of the war. I just wonder if this kind of thing will make it worse! People seem to have difficulty separating the past from the present.

I was also disappointed to find out that Alex Haley probably plagiarized some of his story. Still... it's a great film and really makes the original very obsolete.

many cultures have perpetrated the same thing. It doesn't make it right and many continue to do so.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

I was at Memorial Hall when Fallon came to do a show at UNC. The Roots played the whole time before the show began and during every "commercial" break. The place was rocking. Seeing them in a live setting was pretty incredible

I saw the line to wait for tickets to Fallon and I said "fugg this shit" and went on with my day. Of course, I'm an admitted Jimmy Fallon hater so there's that.

 

[HeelFan58]

I saw the line to wait for tickets to Fallon and I said "fugg this shit" and went on with my day. Of course, I'm an admitted Jimmy Fallon hater so there's that.

I just don't find Fallon funny. I rather watch re-runs of Family Guy than any of the gabfests. I will watch Conan's monologues from time to time.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

I just don't find Fallon funny.

I don't either. He finds himself very funny though.

 

[heelz2345]

I think Fallon is pretty funny, he definitely does crack up all the time at everything, but that was the case when he was on SNL too. I like Conan as well. The thing is, I really don't watch any of those talk shows live, so the stuff that goes around Facebook/Twitter the next day is generally what I watch of any of them. So, I do "like" all the Facebook pages of the late night stuff so that if something funny happens, I can check it out then.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I don't either. He finds himself very funny though.

That's why I think he's funny. I love it when comedians can't keep it together.