First Brexit, now this beauty.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-big-new-wall-to-stop-illegal-immigrants.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-big-new-wall-to-stop-illegal-immigrants.html
The U.K. gets it
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Keeping illegal immigrants out with just a wall to stop them. Isn't that the point of the wall? Isn't that what you all want here, a wall? I mean if there is a reason illegals are coming into the UK and that reason is still there inside the wall, then it will be interesting to see if they still try getting in and how many are successful.
I have said all along with our situation that if there is nothing here to actually COME TO, then they won't bother coming.
The U.K. is more conservative than the U.S. now. What a time to be alive.
Hey! I have an idea... why don't all conservatives just move there???
They can have their own little tiny nation and be caged in away from the bad people in the world and the rest of us can be finally free! haha
I'd starve to death.Hey! I have an idea... why don't all conservatives just move there???
So how much does illegal immigration need to decrease for you to consider the wall to be effective?
I don't think a wall is the way to go. I think not having a reason to cross the border to begin with unless you are visiting is what will work. If there is something on the other side worth having, you will get there if you want it bad enough. If they are fleeing something horrible, then we need to take a look at that and see how to help so they can stay in their home country and feel safe. I don't think anyone WANTS to leave their country just to be leaving it. They have reasons.
I'd be ok with conservatives all living somewhere but can we pick a better place than the UK?
Ohhhh okay, so you're saying England should like rape and pillage itself and make it undesirable. That's a better immigration control than a wall, right? Iraq has excellent immigration control.
Blah blah fukkin blah.
You don't answer the question and you don't provide an alternative.
Vintage Chick thread.
I vote we buy an island and form the Republic of ****offia.
The South...?
I'm coming back down, boys!
Ya, the old narrative was "we need to be more like Europe!". Now the progressives are starting to eat their words on that.
That's funny. I had not even thought about that. Probably because I spend about 0.06% of my time worrying about how Europeans choose to solve their problems.
I provided an alternative in another thread and I believe when I said in this one that if there is not a reason TO COME OVER they will not come!
You dumb butts think a wall will stop them???? LOL yeah, like the electric fence, ditches with barbed wire fence has worked. Surely they have no idea how to scale a wall OR goodness forbid, dig a tunnel under the stupid thing, take a boat like they do in Cuba, some get caught, some don't.... yeah, a wall will work.
What part of doing away with the FREE shit, as Dick so kindly mentioned above on his cup, and having penalties for those here who hire them do you guys not get? If there is NOTHING HERE FOR THEM, they will not have a reason to come here. I think you guys are insane, seriously!
NO YOU CANNOT MOVE SOUTH IN THE U.S. the liberals are here so you want to go far, far away... like the moon or the north pole!
No, I think you have masterbated your brain cells away. It is not very difficult to understand but that stick up your ass does prevent you from understanding a lot of things. Sad for you.
Pathetic.
Here's the thing- you are the only one who thinks that a wall needs to stop 100% of illegals. You also seem to think that the wall will be the entire strategy to reduce illegal immigration.
Just be quiet and let the smart people worry about policy.
waste your tax money on the wall then.... if you think Mexico will pay for it in any way, shape or form, you have lost your mind. All of this is contingent on the dumbass getting voted in, which is still not a sure thing anyway.
Go ahead smart people. I'll hide and watch. I need a good laugh.
Your best idea ever. You should implement it immediately.
No one has said just a wall. Pay attention.
So your solution is to make America a worse place to live or help other countries become what you say is best for them. That goes against so many of your beliefs that it's ridiculous. Either you are a hypocrite or you haven't thought this through.
how in the hell did you get that from what I said?
Help countries become what is best for them? You mean like we are doing over in the middle east?
Make this the worst place to live? When did I say that? you are so confused
how in the hell did you get that from what I said?
Help countries become what is best for them? You mean like we are doing over in the middle east?
Make this the worst place to live? When did I say that? you are so confused
DO YOU HAVE A SOLUTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE OR IS YOUR ONLY PURPOSE TO COME HERE AND BITCH?
Besides taking away the free shit and not having a reason to WANT to come here? Okay, build that stupid wall then if you think that is going to work. Stupid idea but whatever. If there is no free medical, food stamps, welfare, jobs they can be hired to do, what other reason will they have to come here? I guess I am not sure of why they come then. I thought those were the reasons. Is it so they can join the American Tinder site??? what?????? What are you not getting about my idea of NOT having a reason to come?
You said to take a look and see how we can help. Who are you to decide if they need help and what they need help with? And how would you make America less desirable to come to without making it worse?how in the hell did you get that from what I said?
Help countries become what is best for them? You mean like we are doing over in the middle east?
Make this the worst place to live? When did I say that? you are so confused
Are you fukkin serious?
They don't come here for free shit. They come for jobs. Because their countries suck.
Free shit is just a bonus.
seriously?
I said IF people are coming here escaping something, then we need to find out why and help so they will NOT come here. I have no problem helping them, you do. You want them out. You want refugees to be left in the danger they live in, not me, so I was suggesting perhaps helping them. I am sure there are countries you'd be happy to blow up so they can all just start over.
You don't get that not allowing them to come here and get free stuff would be less desirable to them???? How would not giving free stuff to illegals make us worse off?
so stop allowing them to get jobs. Are you suggesting they are just able to outwit, outsmart us that much???? They get jobs now because Americans HIRE THEM. If our system is so bad that it cannot detect a fake SSN or anything else required to prove citizenship then that is where we need to start.
They will come to sell drugs...because they know we're soft on illegals committing crimes. They'll come to steal shit...because they know we're soft on committing crimes. They'll come here to obtain new identities as Americans so they can get free shit...because they know we like giving free shit to people. They'll come here because if they attempted to do any of this in their own country, they'd take a dirt nap.
You seem to think that our government will help in stopping them.
But why would that be where we need to start? Why wouldn't closing the borders be where we need to start? That's backwards thinking to me.
For example, if I have a hole in my screen porch and flies keep getting in to get to the food that I put out for dinner, does it make better sense to stop putting out dinner or does it make better sense to fix the hole in the screen?
