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This is hilarious!! People have lost their minds!!

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An absolute riot. How in the world can someone act like this? The straight up victim game. I have watched this several times and cant stop laughing.

 
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Imagine skipping work to "protest" and defend people like this. Imagine voting for a specific candidate who will defend people like this. Classic NeverTrumper.
 
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Imagine skipping work to "protest" and defend people like this. Imagine voting for a specific candidate who will defend people like this. Classic NeverTrumper.
You know... the Constitution must really bother you. It mandates that EVERYONE is entitled to a defense. That damned Sixth Amendment. Isn't that just a bite in the nads? It sucks when people that are different from you have equal protection under the law! America was already great, in that regard.
 
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You know... the Constitution must really bother you. It mandates that EVERYONE is entitled to a defense. That damned Sixth Amendment. Isn't that just a bite in the nads? It sucks when people that are different from you have equal protection under the law! America was already great, in that regard.

Actually, Habeas Corpus doesn't exist anymore. Rand Paul kind of fixed the damage Obama did, but it still exists.
 
Oh, good... so, the people that are deemed as less-than-equal get fvcked. THAT is truly American!

Pretty much. GWB did it and it was overturned. Then Obama did it much more thoroughly, and it took that time. After that, Rand Paul led a bill that makes it harder for the state to consider you an "enemy combatant", but I rather doubt that would stop them if they wanted to jail you indefinitely.
 
Pretty much. GWB did it and it was overturned. Then Obama did it much more thoroughly, and it took that time. After that, Rand Paul led a bill that makes it harder for the state to consider you an "enemy combatant", but I rather doubt that would stop them if they wanted to jail you indefinitely.
So, @bleeduncblue will be pleased to hear that.

My point is simple; The hissy-fit girl/boy should have the same rights under the law as the clerks. And, defending that right is something that, as far as I've been told, all of our military have fought and died for, throughout the centuries. And, they didn't always get it right, but it improved after the errors were made (slavery, right to a civil trial not a military tribunal- see Mary Surratt) etc., so that the errors didn't become irreversible mistakes.
 
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So, @bleeduncblue will be pleased to hear that.

My point is simple; The hissy-fit girl/boy should have the same rights under the law as the clerks. And, defending that right is something that, as far as I've been told, all of our military have fought and died for, throughout the centuries. And, they didn't always get it right, but it improved after the errors were made (slavery, right to a civil trial not a military tribunal- see Mary Surratt) etc., so that the errors didn't become irreversible mistakes.
Exactly what rights were violated here?
 
Exactly what rights were violated here?
None that I know of. My initial response was to @bleeduncblue for saying that people who defend, or would defend, the person in the video were (or are) somehow wrong for doing that. That electing candidates who defend them was a bad thing. I don't condone the person's actions in the store. I don't think it was effective or helped them at all. But, just because they're "different" doesn't mean they aren't worthy of being defended if they're oppressed somehow. But, again, the way this person behaved was a bad idea... in my opinion.
 
None that I know of. My initial response was to @bleeduncblue for saying that people who defend, or would defend, the person in the video were (or are) somehow wrong for doing that. That electing candidates who defend them was a bad thing. I don't condone the person's actions in the store. I don't think it was effective or helped them at all. But, just because they're "different" doesn't mean they aren't worthy of being defended if they're oppressed somehow. But, again, the way this person behaved was a bad idea... in my opinion.
The way he behaved should exclude him from defense.
 
The point is, "why does he need defense?" He acted like an idiot, the clerk did nothing wrong, nothing to defend here.
I recall saying that I didn't condone his actions in the store... twice. I don't believe there will be any charges over this exchange. I don't know. But, if there are charges, then all parties deserve representation.
 
I recall saying that I didn't condone his actions in the store... twice. I don't believe there will be any charges over this exchange. I don't know. But, if there are charges, then all parties deserve representation.

@nctransplant is on the money here. Based on what the video shows, the store clerk was a bystander to a meltdown from someone who obviously isn’t very comfortable in their own skin and most likely suffers from a psychiatric disorder. What in the world is defense worthy? No one is saying trans people should be mistreated, discriminated against or mocked. But they’ll have excuse us “cis” folks if we don’t automatically know which division of trans they are. And frankly, it’s on them to be accepting of that as they’re the ones that deviate from the norm. They’re the oddity.

The hostile individual threatened the clerk and damaged store property. He/she/it should face consequences if the clerk and store owner wanted to press charges. And then he/she/it needs to f*ck off, get over themselves, and possibly take a smack in the mouth.
 
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@nctransplant is on the money here. Based on what the video shows, the store clerk was a bystander to a meltdown from someone who obviously isn’t very comfortable in their own skin and most likely suffers from a psychiatric disorder. What in the world is defense worthy? No one is saying trans people should be mistreated, discriminated against or mocked. But they’ll have excuse us “cis” folks if we don’t automatically know which division of trans they are. And frankly, it’s on them to be accepting of that as they’re the ones that deviate from the norm. They’re the oddity.

The hostile individual threatened the clerk and damaged store property. He/she/it should face consequences if the clerk and store owner wanted to press charges. And then he/she/it needs to f*ck off, get over themselves, and possibly take a smack in the mouth.
I agree with pretty much everything except the last sentence of both paragraphs.

I was speaking more about the people who are Trans, or whatever, should be protected by the same laws as everyone else. They're also to be held accountable for breaking them.
 
@nctransplant is on the money here. Based on what the video shows, the store clerk was a bystander to a meltdown from someone who obviously isn’t very comfortable in their own skin and most likely suffers from a psychiatric disorder. What in the world is defense worthy? No one is saying trans people should be mistreated, discriminated against or mocked. But they’ll have excuse us “cis” folks if we don’t automatically know which division of trans they are. And frankly, it’s on them to be accepting of that as they’re the ones that deviate from the norm. They’re the oddity.

The hostile individual threatened the clerk and damaged store property. He/she/it should face consequences if the clerk and store owner wanted to press charges. And then he/she/it needs to f*ck off, get over themselves, and possibly take a smack in the mouth.
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