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The reason for optimism is that Roy is in the young man's home! Roy is a great recruiter and UNC is a beautiful place to play. I believe in our coach and the Tar Heel Way! (I'm not afraid to say it) Only idiots think that if you make a mistake it changes who you are at your core. It is time for the doomers (BTW: not calling out the above poster) to see that things are looking up!
Cowards and troll-kin need to admit they were wrong since we got a major recruit already and will have a great two upcoming classes!
This beast of a man would look good in Tar Heel Blue and will thrive under Roy and company. Come join the Family young man, we'll make you famous!
Cowards and troll-kin need to admit they were wrong since we got a major recruit already and will have a great two upcoming classes!
This beast of a man would look good in Tar Heel Blue and will thrive under Roy and company. Come join the Family young man, we'll make you famous!
I have been wondering if Roy would engage with this kid once the light dimmed for Giles & Bam. Kid is a monster with that real nice long reach! We would be just fine pairing this kid with Bradley, that would be some beef for ya down low. Snagging him and Markenson would ease a lot of our fears folks.
Roy does not do in home visits with kids he has no interest in or kids that have no interest in what we offer, have felt Florida was the team to beat but a in home this late in the game pretty much out of no where has to be considered a head turning developement.
Roy does not do in home visits with kids he has no interest in or kids that have no interest in what we offer, have felt Florida was the team to beat but a in home this late in the game pretty much out of no where has to be considered a head turning developement.
I have had some experience in sales..so I find it amusing the negative/hysterical criticism posted towards RW - I am sure he doesnt read these forums and I hope the people of influence(boosters) are not criticizing him, face to face( or indirectly)...No doubt he knows what has worked in the past-and today recruiting is a diiferent game...for my own peace of mind I think of recruiting as - signed LOI(break out champagne! celebrate)..commitment(fist pump, lion roar, smiles, high five)..OV(reason fro optimism)...in-home/offer(step in right directions-emotions under control..even keel-wait and see)....jet fuel is not cheap and why fly around on the university's dime...I have listened to RW closely over the years and his love for UNC beyond reproach IMO
I don't get a kick out of quoting Mike Tyson, but iron Mike hit it on the nose with this quote " Everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face". Roy has to try some different recruiting tactics and casting a wide net and getting in the ear of more 4-5 recruits may be a good strategy. Everyone thinks Meeks will stick around for another year. Don't be shocked to see him leave.
Where would he be going? If you're insinuating that Meeks might be leaving school for the NBA, yes, I would be shocked. I'm not saying he won't ever play NBA ball. But he would have to make an enormous leap from where he was last year to consider leaving. He's a smart and skilled ball player but even with his weight loss and better conditioning, he's not an NBA player of this day and age - or at least what we saw last year. In the 80s and 90s, a lot players played like Meeks. But the game is different now and his plodding, below-the-rim style is usually not sought after. Meeks will have to be drafted on production rather than potential. And the more years he has to point to will be better for him. Like I said, unless he has improved his explosiveness exponentially, I can't imagine him leaving after his junior year.
Listen, I love Kennedy, but there aren't many 6'9 centers on NBA teams. Add in the fact that he's not a freak athlete and he just doesn't fit that NBA mold.
Hell of a college player though and we should be thankful for every minute he's on campus.
I am not very good at projecting player to the pros. I do know that Kennedy is an extremely effective player. Would think there is always a place for that type of player on a team.
I hope we can see him graduate from UNC though. My kids think he is awesome.
I hope we can see him graduate from UNC though. My kids think he is awesome.
I agree, not to many 6'9" centers that are vertically challenged with normal reach rather than freakish wing spans like we saw with Henson. Meeks really needs to develope not only a couple go to moves deep in the paint but he as well needs to add a mid range jump shot out to at least 15-18ft. I think he can hit the mid range consistently but he typically finds himself so deep inside that he doesn't get to take many jumpers.
I love his basketball IQ, really good set of hands, sweet as it gets outlet passing and desire to go to the offensive boards. I see him as more suited for the high low being out on top and rolling down, I think he needs a step to be a more effective finisher, not nearly as effective exploding straight up without a step first.
Kennedy has to drastically improve his explosiveness across the board to be anything in the NBA. Name a 6'9 center that doesn't play above the rim that isn't super athletic/fast that is doing anything in the league? Look at how much Sean May struggled in his early NBA career (disregard the injuries). When healthy, he struggled mightily due to his inability to play above the rim consistently and lack of lateral quickness. I'd argue that he's significantly better than Meeks ever will be. Love Kennedy but he's a fool not to stick around at UNC and get his degree in 4 years while playing for the greatest college program of all time.
I really like Kennedy by the way. My post sounds a bit harsh after reading it but it's the truth. He's a huge piece of our puzzle and a good college player, and we are lucky to have him. But evaluating his game at the NBA level is a different story.
+1. Kennedy is exactly what we need as a center for Carolina. I think he helps this team drastically and can be a good leader for the team. Honestly - I don't care how good of an NBA prospect he is (other than that I wish the best for him once he's done at UNC) - because being a top tier draft prospect doesn't make a bit of difference to the UNC team this year.
But if I were to evaluate his NBA prospects - I would tend to agree that he is limited, and would be best advised to not leave school early. Sean May is a good comparable for a beefy below the rim type guy. I'm not saying Kennedy can't hack it in the NBA - but the fact of the matter is, even if he is/would be pretty darn good - NBA teams draft based on potential and athletic ability. As stupid as it sounds, an NBA GM would rather miss on a 7 footer that can jump and get down the floor a little bit, than hit on a 6th-7th man below the rim "un-sexy" player.
No offense to Meeks. I like him a lot as well. I couldn't be happier for his progress in his conditioning in his time in CH. But Sean May he isn't. May was twice the athlete Meeks is. Again, I don't want to disparage the kid but he's not close to Sean May's level as an NBA prospect.
May actually had some quality time in the NBA before his injuries. His per 36 minute averages during his second year in the league were 18 and 10. In just 23 mpg, he was averaging 12 and 7. Had May stayed healthy, I believe he'd still be a quality role player on a team today.
May had good NBA combine results. His vertical jump was measured at 33" - better than current NBA players David Lee, Charlie Vilanueva, Jarrett Jack and Monte Ellis. His lane agility time was an impressive 11.04 - better than current NBA players Chris Paul, Marvin Williams, Gerald Green, Martel Webster and Monte Ellis. And lastly, his 3/4 court sprint time was a solid 3.29 seconds - better than current NBA players Danny Granger, Francisco Garcia and Andrew Bogut. May was a pretty damn good athlete.
May actually had some quality time in the NBA before his injuries. His per 36 minute averages during his second year in the league were 18 and 10. In just 23 mpg, he was averaging 12 and 7. Had May stayed healthy, I believe he'd still be a quality role player on a team today.
May had good NBA combine results. His vertical jump was measured at 33" - better than current NBA players David Lee, Charlie Vilanueva, Jarrett Jack and Monte Ellis. His lane agility time was an impressive 11.04 - better than current NBA players Chris Paul, Marvin Williams, Gerald Green, Martel Webster and Monte Ellis. And lastly, his 3/4 court sprint time was a solid 3.29 seconds - better than current NBA players Danny Granger, Francisco Garcia and Andrew Bogut. May was a pretty damn good athlete.
a few years ago LeBron James mentioned that in the best interest of the league--reduce number of teams--the quality of the NBA is poor...money talks..the franchi$e..if Meeks was NBA ready he should have made the jump...in today's America the middle class is decreasing the value of a college degree decreasing..better to hit that NBA contract..IMO he may have a sustainable body but not the skills over 82 games
If Meeks and his family decides he want to declare for the NBA then we can complain 24 hours a day until the next season but he could care less what we think. We see it time and time again when players are not ready for the NBA and they leave anyway. Just think of the several UNC players are the last few years. Meeks can shoot the 15 foot jumper. If Meeks can't jump, he sure is not going to jump any better staying another year. Hope Roy signs another big or Mr. Bradley may have to get a lot of minutes his freshman year. Oh, don't mention if Bradley gets injured...
Ok, I will admit that there is a chance that Meeks and his family decide to jump to the NBA after next season despite being no more ready to do so than the man in the moon. Agreed.
I can't say if Meeks, game wise, is ready for the NBA because I need to see how he has improved since last season before I can honestly speculate on that. Based on where he left off from last season I would not see NBA teams getting real excited about him because his metrics are not great. He really struggled to get thru the college season last year, there will be a concern as to if he can make it thru a full NBA season.
I have no doubt that Meeks and his family would love to see him as a lotto selection in the next draft but based on last season I just don't see that as reality. Is he ready to take a second round slot, is he willing to not get drafted and try to catch on with a team, I would hate to see that. But who knows, maybe he finds lightening in a bottle and blows up this season, not really betting on that but who really knows. If we win the NCAAT this season as many expect us to Kennedy will be a HUGE cog in it.
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