Walking Dead - possible SPOILERS!
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I wondered the same thing but dont see how he could realistically get out of there without being bitten. Even if the guts we saw were from Nicholas, he'd still be pinned under a horde of feeding walkers. Nick would just be the appetizer
Well what if Nicholas' body is truly on top and the walkers are occupied with it he could kill enough walkers on top to essentially put himself in a dead walker cocoon. Thereby fooling other walkers around the dead cocoon into thinking there is no more fresh meat. Kind of like the walker camouflage they have used in the past. Is that believable to anyone else? Please say it is!
I'll keep hope alive for at least another week. Maybe I'm in denial right now, but this is all too much to take this week. What with the Cowboys losing again and now this!
SPOILER ALERT
the actor is on set filming next season
And the character that kills glenn in the comic is being introduced next season
the actor is on set filming next season
And the character that kills glenn in the comic is being introduced next season
Dude, I felt like I got punched in the gut watching that one. I hope that the theories are true, but I almost feel like it would be worse to go through this, have it be a fake out, and then he still meet the fate that he does in the comics. There is some compelling evidence that he's still alive, but until I see him still alive on the show, I don't want to get my hopes up too high. Also, how about that ending with Rick? Definitely a tough episode, and we won't get many real answers next week because it appears to be a Morgan-centric episode.
A lot of people saying the guy was hallucinating. Now THAT would piss me off. I think they were eating the other guy and glenn gets under the dumpster. His facial expressions were not of someone being eaten alive.
Something that is also sticking with me, lending credence to the "He's alive" theory is the nature of the death. When the show has killed off major characters, characters that are part of the group, there has always been some way to get definitive proof and closure. Either someone in the group witnesses the death (think of how Dale, Herschel, Lori, Shane, T-Dog, Bob, and Beth died) or discover the walker version of that character (Merle, Sofia, Shane again). This just didn't seem "right" that such an important character would be killed with no closure for the rest of the group, and therefore, keeping hope alive in the group (Maggie in particular) that he's still out there. It also didn't seem right that they would kill off such an important character with "normal" scenes afterward. It's pretty hard to follow that scene (particularly if it was intended as his final scene) with "normal" actions by Rick, Michonne, Daryl, Abraham and Sasha. The line after the commercial break "Just because there's no smoke doesn't mean they didn't make it" is not there by accident. It might be a one in a million shot that he's alive.....
I think its also possible that they simply are using this as a plot mechanism to make the search and rescue for Glenn more suspenseful. If were all still wondering whether or not he's dead then the search for him will be more interesting. If we already know the answer it wouldn't be very interesting and would seem like a waste of an episode.
Also, he could be on set shooting flashbacks for next season. But my fingers are crossed. I just don't want to get my hopes up
Also, he could be on set shooting flashbacks for next season. But my fingers are crossed. I just don't want to get my hopes up
I might be a little cheesy if they say he somehow escaped, but I hope they do. TWD is not reluctant to kill off main characters, but there are a handful of DO NOT KILL characters: Rick, Daryll, Glen, Michonne come to mind. And they might as well keep Maggie around too since she's pretty hot.
I find Glenn to be pretty boring, so it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he gets killed off. I don't think he's dead yet though; just a tease. I like the guy, it's just that he has become pretty stale in recent seasons.
I don't thiiiiiiiiiink there's any trickeration going on.... I think he's dead. I also thiiiiiiiiink Maggie might be pregnant. We may see Glenn in some way, shape or form in the future. I think Rick makes it out of his predicament with a little help from his friends.
I do think it would take some sort of wild explanation but if they use the camouflage angle, there is at least a little precedent there. It may be cheap in some people's mind to make him survive somehow, but I'm holding out some hope. I think they could be teasing us because they know how "expected" it is that he was going to die, people have been talking about that for seasons, so they might be messing with us there. I guess we will find out for certain before the season ends...
MAJOR SPOILER ALERT -- even if you've watched last night's you might not want to read this:
He's dead. I live in Atlanta as some of you know, and The Walking Dead is filmed about an hour SW of here near Peachtree City, Georgia. My good buddy is friends with a guy who has worked on TWD production staff since it started. He told my buddy that Glenn is dead. He's still in Atlanta as of now, but that's because -- I believe -- he was filming flashbacks and "ghost" appearances (like when Rick saw Lori at the prison after she was dead). I didn't hear about the rumors of him still being alive until after I watched the episode but.....I don't know, it seemed pretty clear to me that he was being eaten. If you notice, Glen and Nicholas fall side by side, and it clearly shows him landing on his back without Nicholas on top of him. Plus.....to me his facial expression look pretty much like you'd think someone would look while being eaten. Plus, like someone mentioned before, Glen gets killed off by a character from the comics that they haven't introduced yet......so killing him off now might be a way to not make said character look TOO evil when the show finally introduces him.
Finally, according to my buddy's friend, the two safest characters by far are Daryl, then Rick. Daryl has a ridiculously huge fanbase.
Finally, according to my buddy's friend, the two safest characters by far are Daryl, then Rick. Daryl has a ridiculously huge fanbase.
yeah, I'm kinda thinking they're trying to make us doubt whether he is or not, and then they can drag out the guessing game for a few weeks possibly. On the Talking Dead show that comes on immediately after TWD, they always show you all the people who died in that night's episode. But the didn't show anything on Glenn, and Chris Hardwick read a note from the show's creator that hinted at Glenn coming back in some form or another (most likely flashbacks), but obviously that was intentional to create more mystery.
Yeah. So I'm glad they didn't kill off Glenn but it was a BIG stretch to have him survive that way. I mean the walkers were only eating the other dude and totally ignored Glenn as he slithers under the dumpster?
Yeah, the wall protecting Alexandria fell... Boat load of Walkers are surging through the breach... oh my!
I thought it was cool the way the producer said that they left it open ended on Glenn was so the viewers would experience the same uncertainly about his fate as the people behind the walls feel when one of their group ventures outside. Once they leave, there is no communication, no word, no nothing, You just have to wait and wonder, and that's what they made us do.
I liked him at first, but now he's gone all pacifist, and is trying to help a man that has sworn to kill them all.
Kind of like the liberals and the Muslims. Almost identical levels of naivete and stupidity.
I'm hoping he'll wise up and kill that wolf dude that he's got in the basement.
The radical jihadist Muslims or all Muslims? A little nuance would do you a lot of good.
Anyways, Morgan's new philosophy is downright infuriating, and I'm starting to hope it gets him killed. But I'm not even close to hating him like I hate father Gabriel. That guy is the biggest terd on the entire show.
Not sure if any of you are familiar with what happens at this point in the comics, but
a lot of people are about to die. & a certain main character may lose an eye
I avoided this thread until I caught up, which was just before the new episode last night. I was relieved that Glenn was still alive (even though it is hard to believe he survived, I don't care, I'm just glad he's still alive, and hopefully they won't kill him again, at least not right away, or Maggie). I thought the latest episode was just super tense man. I know they didn't really kill anyone big except Dianna, but the possibility was there the whole episode, and they left us hanging with many characters' fates for when we come back in February. I gotta say, I do not like that little kid, and the whole ending with him going "Mom, mom, mom" I'm yelling at the tv "SHUT UP YOU STUPID, STUPID IDIOT! SOMEONE SSSSHHHHH THIS KID!"
When it comes to Morgan, I think it's a really interesting turn they've taken with this character. This is a show that has often penalized characters for being "too nice." Herschel and Dale couldn't survive, Eugene, Gabriel and the Alexandrians are seen as weak for their unwillingness to commit violence (I like Eugene, but the dude needs to man up). While it's easy to say "The wolves are evil, Morgan needs to kill that dude or let Carol kill that dude," Morgan's character arc is so fascinating because he couldn't bring himself to kill his walker wife, which ultimately cost him his son's life and his own sanity, but he was brought back from that insanity through the chance he was given by the Cheesemaker. He has suffered loss that he could have prevented by taking a life, but he was also spared and changed when he should have been a lost cause. It's a complex arc and it challenges the mindset of the others, who have gone through their own losses and come out differently than he has. It's a challenge where a character being "too nice" will ultimately lead to his own and/or other characters' deaths, but it's an approach we haven't really seen on the show before, and I'm fascinated to see it play out, even though it's bringing characters that I like into direct conflict with each other. I was really thinking Carol would end up killing him last night (she still might) which would just be a crazy turn of events, that one "good" character has to kill another "good" character for being "too good." This is not some "look at the flowers" situation where Lizzie was a danger to all of them because she is actively killing people, this is a situation where Morgan is a danger because he's trying to keep everyone alive, which is an amazing thing to me. I don't think there is a simple "right" answer for this situation, and because of that, I've been really impressed with the whole deal. I totally understand Morgan's perspective while at the same time, I totally understand Rick and Carol's perspective. We will see how it concludes soon enough, but I've enjoyed it.
As for that, I am pretty familiar with the comics, at least through this point, and I really thought that was about to happen in one of these past two episodes. It could still happen but man, I was on edge for that. They just love teasing the comic readers...
When it comes to Morgan, I think it's a really interesting turn they've taken with this character. This is a show that has often penalized characters for being "too nice." Herschel and Dale couldn't survive, Eugene, Gabriel and the Alexandrians are seen as weak for their unwillingness to commit violence (I like Eugene, but the dude needs to man up). While it's easy to say "The wolves are evil, Morgan needs to kill that dude or let Carol kill that dude," Morgan's character arc is so fascinating because he couldn't bring himself to kill his walker wife, which ultimately cost him his son's life and his own sanity, but he was brought back from that insanity through the chance he was given by the Cheesemaker. He has suffered loss that he could have prevented by taking a life, but he was also spared and changed when he should have been a lost cause. It's a complex arc and it challenges the mindset of the others, who have gone through their own losses and come out differently than he has. It's a challenge where a character being "too nice" will ultimately lead to his own and/or other characters' deaths, but it's an approach we haven't really seen on the show before, and I'm fascinated to see it play out, even though it's bringing characters that I like into direct conflict with each other. I was really thinking Carol would end up killing him last night (she still might) which would just be a crazy turn of events, that one "good" character has to kill another "good" character for being "too good." This is not some "look at the flowers" situation where Lizzie was a danger to all of them because she is actively killing people, this is a situation where Morgan is a danger because he's trying to keep everyone alive, which is an amazing thing to me. I don't think there is a simple "right" answer for this situation, and because of that, I've been really impressed with the whole deal. I totally understand Morgan's perspective while at the same time, I totally understand Rick and Carol's perspective. We will see how it concludes soon enough, but I've enjoyed it.
As for that, I am pretty familiar with the comics, at least through this point, and I really thought that was about to happen in one of these past two episodes. It could still happen but man, I was on edge for that. They just love teasing the comic readers...
Last night's episode was a waste. The previous episode would have been a better mid-season finale. Nothing at all even happened in last night's episode. A bunch of walkers came in, and that's it. Deanna got bit, but other than that, nothing happened that was built off the previous episode. Despite everything that happened between Morgan and Carol, nothing of any importance really happened between those two. They smacked each other around for a bit and the dude escaped with some chick nobody even barely knows, but nothing more was built between the two characters from the end of the previous episode. Nothing happened with Glenn and Maggie after Maggie saw the balloons. Carl and what's-his-name smacked each other around too, but again, nothing. Not even one mention of Daryl, Abraham and Sasha until some sneak peak during some show nobody cares about. Just a wasted episode.
Basically all the things that I thought would happen this episode wont be happening until the 2nd half premiere in February.
The first scene of the next episode is going to be gruesome. I'm not particularly fond of their escape strategy considering they already know that Glenn is alive and outside the walls. I would have destroyed/completely blocked the first flight of stairs and taken all the supplies to the second level. Then wait it out until Glenn can draw off as many as possible.
Ron needs to die. So does Sam. Those two kids annoy the hell out of me. Jessie will be a goner too IMO considering she's holding hands with Sam who is obviously about to get torn apart for being a moron. My guess is Sam wont let go of Jessie, who grabs Carl with her other hand, forcing Rick to cut her hand off to save Carl as she and Sam get eaten.
The first scene of the next episode is going to be gruesome. I'm not particularly fond of their escape strategy considering they already know that Glenn is alive and outside the walls. I would have destroyed/completely blocked the first flight of stairs and taken all the supplies to the second level. Then wait it out until Glenn can draw off as many as possible.
Ron needs to die. So does Sam. Those two kids annoy the hell out of me. Jessie will be a goner too IMO considering she's holding hands with Sam who is obviously about to get torn apart for being a moron. My guess is Sam wont let go of Jessie, who grabs Carl with her other hand, forcing Rick to cut her hand off to save Carl as she and Sam get eaten.
I've seen that mentality a few other places online, and while you're not wrong about there not really being a major payoff on any of those things in terms of definitive resolution, I still just felt that there was this feeling of dread permeating through the episode that I hadn't felt in a long time. The idea that something was going to happen kept me on the edge of my seat throughout, and granted, nothing major really did happen, but I wouldn't call it a waste of an episode. Maybe I feel differently since I went from seeing the tower fall right into the episode from last night, but I still enjoyed the episode. There weren't hard answers in many cases, but that has been how almost the entire season has gone so far, where episodes end without concrete answers on things (for example, Glenn, "what's that sound?," Rick in the RV), so I liked it. I expect the payoff on a lot of this stuff to come in the next episode in February, which according to Robert Kirkman (the creator of the comic, and an executive producer) will see a lot of people die. Overall, I liked the episode, but I can understand the criticism
It just seems like last night's episode was nothing more than a filler to me. It was like they just couldn't figure out anything to do between now and the second half, so we'll just do this. I just feel like a full hour of this episode could have been done in 15 minutes during the second half and just make the previous week's episode the finale. Just a lot of wasted time.
There were some flaws too. Why the flying f*** is Carol worried about the Wolf dude while their potential saving grace from all of this is being compromised by thousands of walkers? Shouldn't she be worried about them first? I know I would. If Alexandria gets destroyed, then who the hell cares who Morgan has down there? Are you seriously thinking about killing Morgan right now, Carol? I don't know if you've noticed, but that dude has some skills that can save you from a few of the walkers out there. Just dumb. Why is it that these guys can shoot walkers in the head with complete precision 100% of the time, but they can't shoot the Wolf dude in the head while he has the lesbo nurse chick? Shoot the f'er and get your chick back. Just doesn't make any sense to me.
Honestly, that Carol part is a very fair point that didn't cross my mind. The timing of that whole thing could have been done differently. I don't have a good answer for that. As for the other point, I saw someone point out that Tara shot like 20 walkers in the head when Deanna's son had climbed over the wall, but she couldn't take out this dude from 10 feet away? Again, that's a plot hole I don't have a great answer for, other than the risk of shooting the nurse was there as well. That's something you see in all sorts of movies/show though, so I'm not gonna give TWD too much grief on that because you see it in most action movies.
It wasn't a perfect episode by any means, there were plot holes and the timing of certain events shouldn't have happened when the herd was in the walls (Ron fighting CORAL is another), but I still enjoyed the episode due to the raised stakes. Again, nothing immediate happened, but I think if say, you watched this episode in a binge scenario once the entire season is completed, to see the payoff that will come next episode, it won't seem wasted then, even if it does now.
Wanted to bring this thread back after last night's finale (minor spoilers)...
So what did you think? Ending on a cliffhanger after an entire year of buildup is weak, but Negan's appearance was pretty good despite that. Needless to say he makes the Governor look like a nice guy. Looking very forward to how they tackle Negan in season 7. With that said, who did he kill? What are your theories?
Do they follow the comics and kill Glenn? Do they dare risk rioting fans and kill Daryl? Is Abraham's character impactful enough for a death on such a big stage?
So what did you think? Ending on a cliffhanger after an entire year of buildup is weak, but Negan's appearance was pretty good despite that. Needless to say he makes the Governor look like a nice guy. Looking very forward to how they tackle Negan in season 7. With that said, who did he kill? What are your theories?
Do they follow the comics and kill Glenn? Do they dare risk rioting fans and kill Daryl? Is Abraham's character impactful enough for a death on such a big stage?
