Warriors to Dump Barnes and McAdoo?

[What Would Jesus Do?]

That's what this article suggests may happen in the quest to sign Durant.

I can understand wanting Durant, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Step 8: Withdraw the qualifying offer and renounce Harrison Barnes
Out of all the steps, this is the one that is the toughest to swallow. Since being drafted in the first round in 2012, Harrison Barnes has gotten better each year. Finding a team in a sign-and-trade scenario would not benefit Barnes financially or with the length of his contract. Renouncing him would free the Warriors of his $9.6 million cap hold. This is the biggest sacrifice Golden State would have to make.

Step 9: Renounce free-agent cap holds
Electing to renounce the cap holds on Mareesse Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Brandon Rush, James McAdoo, Ian Clark, Jermaine O’Neal and Ognen Kuzmic would free up $17 million in cap space. The players renounced could only sign for the minimum or midlevel room if Golden State elected to bring them back.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-warriors-can-afford-to-sign-kevin-durant-043710075.html

 

[TarHeelMark]

I don't follow NBA much, but seems like Warriors have a damn good thing going now. Why mess it up? How many times have we seen pro sports teams do something like this, only to screw up team chemistry and actually get worse?

But if Barnes gets cut, I'd love to see him wind up with the Hornets.

 

[Bubspub88]

You are on pace to have the best season in history and you start screwing with your roster?

 

[dadika13]

This isn't happening. It's an interesting February NBA story when reporters become bored.

 

[goheels653]

You are on pace to have the best season in history and you start screwing with your roster?

I think this is an offseason hypothetical. No way they just cut him mid-season. But, on the topic, if Barnes wants to maximize his next contract without thinking long term, the Warriors probably will have to move on from him whether it's to create room for Durant or otherwise, and he'll get paid plenty of money. Or, he can be smart and take a little less to stay in Golden State, like Danny Green did last year in San Antonio. Staying there in that system where he's had success might be a better path to another lucrative contract 4 or 5 years down the road, as opposed to going somewhere like Orlando or Charlotte where he is paid to be a star in an isolation heavy offense, doesn't succeed, and ends up getting bounced around from team to team before signing a series of crap 1/2 year deals to wind down his career.

 

[ihubris]

The only way this happens is if the NBA allows 2 basketballs to be used at the same time.
Not enough shots for Durant, Curry, and Thompson. Would also screw up Golden States defensive rotations. Barnes can guard multiple positions, Durant can't.

 

[Heelicious]

I just don't see this happening. I think Durant if he leaves will go somewhere that he can be the undisputed top piece on the team. For GSW he'd be one of 4 big time guys with curry klay and dray.

I think KD is more likely to go to Lakers wiz or Knicks

 

[HeelFan58]

That's what this article suggests may happen in the quest to sign Durant.

I can understand wanting Durant, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Step 8: Withdraw the qualifying offer and renounce Harrison Barnes
Out of all the steps, this is the one that is the toughest to swallow. Since being drafted in the first round in 2012, Harrison Barnes has gotten better each year. Finding a team in a sign-and-trade scenario would not benefit Barnes financially or with the length of his contract. Renouncing him would free the Warriors of his $9.6 million cap hold. This is the biggest sacrifice Golden State would have to make.

Step 9: Renounce free-agent cap holds
Electing to renounce the cap holds on Mareesse Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Brandon Rush, James McAdoo, Ian Clark, Jermaine O’Neal and Ognen Kuzmic would free up $17 million in cap space. The players renounced could only sign for the minimum or midlevel room if Golden State elected to bring them back.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-warriors-can-afford-to-sign-kevin-durant-043710075.html

I think it is nothing more than typical reporter speculation. As far as the other guys McAdoo rarely plays and several of the others rarely do. Is Jermaine O'Neal still there?.

 

[jah420]

The Black Falcon did have a chance to extend for some pretty good money. Turning that down might have sealed his fate with the Dubs long term. I hope it works out and he stays a Warrior, but I'm not holding my breath at this point.

 

[KOOL123]

Click Bait....

 

[ChapelHeeled]

The Black Falcon did have a chance to extend for some pretty good money. Turning that down might have sealed his fate with the Dubs long term. I hope it works out and he stays a Warrior, but I'm not holding my breath at this point.

....around 80 million, I do believe... That is what I have been told anyway. On another note, I do lov the title of this thread. KD is only one of the Top 5 players alive today offensively. Barnes has many very good qualities of his own. Just do not see this happening now...

 

[Bur-Heel]

I remember them talking about this last year about 6-8 months ago

 

[Spacegrass]

Here is the last details on Barnes and a contract extension with GSW. Reportedly turned down 4 YR 64 Mill. I like Barnes but Durant is a superstar and is only 3.5 years older then Barnes. The tricky justification for bringing Durant in isn't Barnes. But how can you shake up a roster "IF" they win 73 games and a title? You know , "Don't Fix It If It Ain't Broken".
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/10...ntract-extension-negotiations-nba-free-agency

 

[gunslingerdick]

I'm glad Barnes is having a chance to play a meaningful role for a championship team. However, I think he's capable of more. I think he can be a good #2 option on a good team (think Leonard or Butler). He can win championships in GS but he'll never be more than a role player because of Curry, Thompson and Green. So he'll need to decide what he wants: win big or be more of a focus?

No way Durant goes to GS. That would kill the legacy that Curry is building and take some luster off of how Durant will be remembered. As good as Westbrook is, there's no doubt that OKC is Durant's team. That wouldn't be the case in GS. That's Steph's town. Plus, like all of you have already stated, it would be foolish for the Warriors to tinker with a well-oiled machine.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

That's what this article suggests may happen in the quest to sign Durant.

I can understand wanting Durant, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Step 8: Withdraw the qualifying offer and renounce Harrison Barnes
Out of all the steps, this is the one that is the toughest to swallow. Since being drafted in the first round in 2012, Harrison Barnes has gotten better each year. Finding a team in a sign-and-trade scenario would not benefit Barnes financially or with the length of his contract. Renouncing him would free the Warriors of his $9.6 million cap hold. This is the biggest sacrifice Golden State would have to make.

Step 9: Renounce free-agent cap holds
Electing to renounce the cap holds on Mareesse Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Brandon Rush, James McAdoo, Ian Clark, Jermaine O’Neal and Ognen Kuzmic would free up $17 million in cap space. The players renounced could only sign for the minimum or midlevel room if Golden State elected to bring them back.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-the-warriors-can-afford-to-sign-kevin-durant-043710075.html

If (and it's a HUGE if) the Warriors can land Durant by dropping Barnes, any GM would be CRAZY to not make that happen. Listen, I love Harrison Barnes and the Warriors are the perfect team for him, but to keep Barnes and not go after Durant is just insane and doesn't make basketball sense.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

No way Durant goes to GS.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. This is the era of the "super team".

 

[gunslingerdick]

I wouldn't be so sure about that. This is the era of the "super team".

I guess it could happen. But where is the pride with today's superstars? Can you imagine Jordan saying that he wanted to team up with Barkley and Pat Ewing so they all could win multiple championships? He would be utterly embarrassed to admit he needed that kind of help to win a championship. It just wouldn't happen.

 

[gunslingerdick]

If (and it's a HUGE if) the Warriors can land Durant by dropping Barnes, any GM would be CRAZY to not make that happen. Listen, I love Harrison Barnes and the Warriors are the perfect team for him, but to keep Barnes and not go after Durant is just insane and doesn't make basketball sense.

Not necessarily. Is Durant going to be ok with getting 8 shots per game? Or are Steph and Klay going to be ok with taking less shots? Is KD going to guard like Barnes does? Are any of the current Warriors going to be insulted by the move considering by that time they could be back-to-back champions? How does it effect team chemistry? There's a lot more to it than just assuming you're bringing in 25 ppg and everything else will remain the same.

I get it though...KD is awesome. I'm just saying that it's not a no-brainer and I have a hard time seeing how the Warriors are going to get better. How much better can they get? Go undefeated?

 

[Spacegrass]

I'm glad Barnes is having a chance to play a meaningful role for a championship team. However, I think he's capable of more. I think he can be a good #2 option on a good team (think Leonard or Butler). He can win championships in GS but he'll never be more than a role player because of Curry, Thompson and Green. So he'll need to decide what he wants: win big or be more of a focus?

No way Durant goes to GS. That would kill the legacy that Curry is building and take some luster off of how Durant will be remembered. As good as Westbrook is, there's no doubt that OKC is Durant's team. That wouldn't be the case in GS. That's Steph's town. Plus, like all of you have already stated, it would be foolish for the Warriors to tinker with a well-oiled machine.

Butler and Leonard are arguably #1's now and Leonard is only 1 year older then Barnes and Butler is only 26.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Butler and Leonard are arguably #1's now and Leonard is only 1 year older then Barnes and Butler is only 26.

Ok. My contention is that Barnes could be every bit that type of player had he had the chance. But he hasn't had the chance. To his credit, he's deferred to Curry and Thompson for the benefit of the team. But had he been in the position that Leonard and Butler have been in - with that kind of room to grow and develop - he'd be on that level. I think he can still reach that level if he leaves GS. But he may be happy to play the 4th option on a championship team rather than the second option on a mediocre team.

 

[Spacegrass]

Ok. My contention is that Barnes could be every bit that type of player had he had the chance. But he hasn't had the chance. To his credit, he's deferred to Curry and Thompson for the benefit of the team. But had he been in the position that Leonard and Butler have been in - with that kind of room to grow and develop - he'd be on that level. I think he can still reach that level if he leaves GS. But he may be happy to play the 4th option on a championship team rather than the second option on a mediocre team.

James Worthy was an under 30 MPG guy his first couple of seasons in the league with LA. Manu Ginobili has been a 6th man his entire career pretty much. You can ball out in a supportive role.

 

[Tru Blu Tar Heel]

Not necessarily. Is Durant going to be ok with getting 8 shots per game? Or are Steph and Klay going to be ok with taking less shots? Is KD going to guard like Barnes does? Are any of the current Warriors going to be insulted by the move considering by that time they could be back-to-back champions? How does it effect team chemistry? There's a lot more to it than just assuming you're bringing in 25 ppg and everything else will remain the same.

I get it though...KD is awesome. I'm just saying that it's not a no-brainer and I have a hard time seeing how the Warriors are going to get better. How much better can they get? Go undefeated?

That's the thing though. The Warriors are predicated on finding the open man and feeding the hot hand. Perfect example, curry has been off for about the last week up until last night. In that time, Thompson has average 30. Draymond Green is a triple-double machine and finds the open man. Honestly, I think that Durant would fit perfectly in the Warriors system. Steve Kerr has created an offensive juggernaut in Oakland. With that said though, today's game is different than when Michael Jordan played. You absolutely would not have seen Jordan try and team up with other superstars. Sadly, that is the way today's game is trending.

 

[jah420]

Don't forget that besides being a offensive juggernaut, the Dubs are actually a pretty darn good defensive team as well.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

I think Falcon made a mistake in not taking the offer on the table from GS. If they decided to dump him after the fact, he'd still be getting paid big time by somebody to pick up his contract.

 

[imajericho]

Durant isn't going to the warriors so much of this discussion is moot.

 

[jah420]

Word in the Bay Area is also that some folks are frustrated with how long he took to come back from the ankle injury this season. I'm hoping they find a way to keep this team together as it is. They already have great chemistry and clearly have fun playing together. Oh yeah, and they are beating the brakes off most teams!

 

[HeelFan58]

Word in the Bay Area is also that some folks are frustrated with how long he took to come back from the ankle injury this season. I'm hoping they find a way to keep this team together as it is. They already have great chemistry and clearly have fun playing together. Oh yeah, and they are beating the brakes off most teams!

Durant has had his injury issues also.