Watching the replay of the game (at about 2:00 in the morning)

[coryfly]

and I get to the point where Hicks gets called for a foul for tripping the 'Cuse guy. So I rewind it and the dude just trips over his own feet. I mean, we've all done it. He was running along and one leg kicked the other and he fell down. Now, this isn't a ref conspiracy thread or officials are against UNC thread because that stuff is nonsense. However, that was a big call at that point for a number of reasons.

So I keep watching and get to the point where Kennedy Meeks gets the inbounds pass and goes up and gets blocked. Ayers blows the whistle and clearly points calling it OOB. So he is saying Meeks either stepped OOB or dribbled the ball OOB. He did neither and it really wasn't even close. Ayers wasn't even looking at his feet anyway.

So, the thing that bothers me most about officials is when they call something they don't see. I get missing calls. It happens. There is no way in hell a ref should ever make a call on something they don't see. Refs have done this when it has benefited UNC as well. No doubt about it. But this was two examples in close proximity to each other than were just ridiculous. 'Cuse fans could probably come up with examples that went against them as well. Don't call something if you don't see it. It isn't complicated.

 

[gary-7]

and I get to the point where Hicks gets called for a foul for tripping the 'Cuse guy. So I rewind it and the dude just trips over his own feet. I mean, we've all done it. He was running along and one leg kicked the other and he fell down. Now, this isn't a ref conspiracy thread or officials are against UNC thread because that stuff is nonsense. However, that was a big call at that point for a number of reasons.

So I keep watching and get to the point where Kennedy Meeks gets the inbounds pass and goes up and gets blocked. Ayers blows the whistle and clearly points calling it OOB. So he is saying Meeks either stepped OOB or dribbled the ball OOB. He did neither and it really wasn't even close. Ayers wasn't even looking at his feet anyway.

So, the thing that bothers me most about officials is when they call something they don't see. I get missing calls. It happens. There is no way in hell a ref should ever make a call on something they don't see. Refs have done this when it has benefited UNC as well. No doubt about it. But this was two examples in close proximity to each other than were just ridiculous. 'Cuse fans could probably come up with examples that went against them as well. Don't call something if you don't see it. It isn't complicated.

Cory, #32 for them should've fouled out in the first 10 minutes. It is really bad.

 

[Archer2]

You just have to laugh about the level of incompetence.

 

[TarHeelMark]

It is ridiculous when refs call a foul when it's "expected". The So-called trip on Isaiah is a great example. The ref assumes there must've been a foul when the dude fell down so he calls one.
Like you said, those types of calls both hurt and help us but why the crap can't they just let 'em play in those situations.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Not to mention the TWO goal tends they got away with.

 

[strummingram]

The Meeks OOB call was the most blatant. I was disappointed in the commentators for not mentioning it during the slow-mo replay.

 

[goheels653]

There was also an OOB call on our possession immediately following the OOB call they got wrong on Syracuse but corrected that was mind boggling bad. I think it was an interior lob and they clearly blocked/tipped it toward our bench and they just gave it to Syracuse.

 

[SeaHawk98]

After the football championship game and that blown call, I have ZERO confidence in officiating. UNC got screwed over on some blatantly missed calls during football and it is happening in basketball. It probably happens in most ACC games. John Swofford has no integrity and needs to go. I feel sometimes he is trying not to appear pro UNC, that he is actually being anti UNC That championship game is a prime example. It was a blown call and the league refused to admit it. Back to basketball, yes officials make calls based on what they expect to happen. Pathetic. Do these morons not receive any training? I hate when people say refs don't alter the outcome of games or one missed call doesn't make a difference, because clearly it does. It will just get worse before it gets better.

 

[JimmyinVA]

it's not a conspiracy, but it's not just incompetence either. many ACC refs have personal agendas re: which team they prefer to win and they don't mind influencing the outcome of a game. it's 50% incompetence and 50% narcissism.

 

[HeelFan58]

My problem is the league can't possibly be so stupid that they think the refs are doing a good job. If they gave a rat's anus about the fans , they would come out and say we know we have issues and this is our plan to improve officiating. Stupidity=doing things the same and expecting different results.

 

[DeanFor President]

I never could figure out what they were calling on Meeks. I watched it ten times. And the lob they knocked toward our bench that they gave to cuse. And the way they were allowed to climb up our backs on rebounds, but then they call our guards for bumps on the perimeter, when their guards did the same and more to our guards all night with no call.

 

[coryfly]

Well, I don't think officiating is terrible. It is a very difficult job to do today. I also don't think it is anti-UNC at all. These type calls just bother me.

 

[Archer2]

It is a difficult job Cory but not as difficult as they make it seem. The quality of officiating has steadily declined in recent years. And the PTB refuse to address it. Perhaps it's just as bad in other conferences, I don't know.

 

[CarolinaMagic]

Go look at the games Ga. Tech and Clemson have played this season and look at the # of free throws they shoot each game. Neither team gets to the line very much for the exception of 2 games. You guessed it against Carolina. Both teams lived at the line in those 2 games to keep the games close. Carolina has most definitely been officiated differently since the scandal broke. Do you guys think the NCAA wants to see Carolina cut the nets down with an ongoing investigation going on? No way the NCAA lets Carolina win the NCAA championship if the investigation is still going on in March.

 

[DSouthr]

ON road games I expect a degree of home cooking, any time duke plays I expect there to be home cooking be i ton the road or not. Last night so much was made of those offensive rebounds the cuse were getting, especially in that first half. Funny thing is when the shot clangs off long and you see UNC players moving toward the basket and cuse players moving away from it at some point you have to realize the UNC guys are being pushed forward, last night in the first half it seemed that was only a foul if the Tar Heel player did the pushin? I hope Meeks didn't pick up another bone bruise last night from the cuse players jumping on his back & shoulders, a coupe of times I wondered if they were getting ready to fit him for a saddle they were riding him so much.

 

[Tom79]

One of Kennedy's shots last night drew 3 defenders. He got the rebound and went back up strong. I saw 3 Syracuse jerseys all blocking or attempting to block the same shot. Somewhere inside that brief melee there may have been a foul...just sayin' cause the phantom showed up again last night...

 

[Heelicious]

and I get to the point where Hicks gets called for a foul for tripping the 'Cuse guy. So I rewind it and the dude just trips over his own feet. I mean, we've all done it. He was running along and one leg kicked the other and he fell down. Now, this isn't a ref conspiracy thread or officials are against UNC thread because that stuff is nonsense. However, that was a big call at that point for a number of reasons.

So I keep watching and get to the point where Kennedy Meeks gets the inbounds pass and goes up and gets blocked. Ayers blows the whistle and clearly points calling it OOB. So he is saying Meeks either stepped OOB or dribbled the ball OOB. He did neither and it really wasn't even close. Ayers wasn't even looking at his feet anyway.

So, the thing that bothers me most about officials is when they call something they don't see. I get missing calls. It happens. There is no way in hell a ref should ever make a call on something they don't see. Refs have done this when it has benefited UNC as well. No doubt about it. But this was two examples in close proximity to each other than were just ridiculous. 'Cuse fans could probably come up with examples that went against them as well. Don't call something if you don't see it. It isn't complicated.

Cory - those two bugged me so much because: 1) they were so close together 2) they were so blatant regarding calling things the officials expect to happen, or miss seeing and assume must have happened. 3) IIRC they helped Cuse climb back in the game when I think we were up about 6 or 8 at the time.

I'll add on the valid comments people have made about the "over the back", "shoves from behind", etc. that make our rebounding look worse than it is, and get the crowd riled up.....

I don't think the officials set out intending to do it, but I think it is just easy subconscious human nature to get sucked into the emotion (cheering or booing of the crowd).... and tending to make calls that go the way of the home town emotion. No official wants 25,000 people riding him and screaming at him for 2 hours, so I think, again subconsciously, a bit of letting the crowd influence what call is made, sneaks into the officials head. That - plus virtually every coach rides the officials more than Roy. Not saying that's a bad thing, its just true, Boheim, especially Rat, Smart, etc etc

And, when teams are of inferior size (UNI earlier thisyear), inferior depth (Syracuse), IF those teams stay somewhat in the game, it just seems like the officials somehow give those teams the benefit of the doubt on calls where we "outphysical / out talent" them.....by not calling when we get fouled on offense and especially when rebounding

And another poster mentioned the moving screens, and the dang ticky tack incidental perimeter bumps 40 feet, called for a foul... very maddening. 1) look at what you are supposed to be stressing this year 2) call stuff the same on both ends.