When will Theo be back?
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Wonderful news! Thanks RoseHeel!
Cant wait to get him back in the rotation. He is an Instant ENERGY Boost!!
I love the way Kenny hustles and bust his butt on the defensive end but during the offseason their were people on here stating that Kenny should start. I never understood that mindset. Now that we have the ability to look back, is there any question that Theo should've and would've started had he been healthy? Kenny will be an adequate sub off the bench but Theo brings so much more to the table.
I think Kenny is plenty good enough from a skills standpoint to start, but I'd like to see him move the needle more in terms of offensive assertiveness. Theo certainly brings more to the table but I don't see that as a knock on Kenny.
Can't wait to see him in action!! If it's a home game I'll be sure to give him quite the cheer!!
So the Theo is a better shooter than Kenny....wow, just wow. Theo brings a lot to the team in other areas but jump shooting from the perimeter is not one of his strengths.
You tell me what his points per game are and what his 3 point shooting percentages are.
You come back with those stats and then tell me if he's been more than serviceable. And again, nowhere in my post did I say Theo is a better shooter, although Kenny hasn't exactly been lighting it up save the Radford game.
He's a decent player but we really need more from the 2 guard spot. He'd be much better coming off the bench, imo.
If Theo comes back and can hit 40% from 3 then his stock will rise quickly and the dynamics of this years team will change quickly. Just his ability to drive and dish, or drive and finish will change the approach opposing teams will have to take on defense, and offense ! If he's aggressive to the lane then the open outside shots for both JJ and JB should be easier to come by.
There is no downside to getting a healthy Theo back !!! jmho .....
What can't be overlooked is how good Theo feeds the Bigs.
Theo is a better talent than Kenny...
Y'all will see Saturday night how much we missed Theo if he ends up playing. He might not score a point but his presence will be felt. You can't replace the energy he brings and how he plays so loose. It ends up spreading and next thing you know, he has energized the other guys and they're playing loose too. Really, we just need Theo to average around 7-8 points a game because he does so many other things.
I would be thrilled if Theo could make 35% of his threes, not too many guys shoot 40%. Regardless, his return will make us better. We miss his energy and enthusiasm. More than anything, we miss our small ball lineup, and Theo is the guy who makes that lineup feasible.
So a guy with no stat line, to speak of, for the season is a better option than a guy shooting about 35% 3 pt. and grabbing 7+ rebounds a game....we all know Theo put in work over the summer to improve his form, some say his form in HS was really nice...
I want Theo back as much as anyone for the many things he brings but not at a risk to his heath. It will take him some time to get back to live game shape. After watching him jump around at Clemson, I'd say he is healed up.
I want Theo back as much as anyone for the many things he brings but not at a risk to his heath. It will take him some time to get back to live game shape. After watching him jump around at Clemson, I'd say he is healed up.
In my opinion it is not a matter of TP being "better" than KW or vice versa. TP coming back can't be anything other than a good thing because he adds so much versatility, energy, and defense + another trust worthy body to work with! Whether he starts or not is an entirely different question, but knowing Roy, he will probably want to work him back into the starting lineup eventually.
KW is very close to being a finished product. A little more consistency on his shot; an improvement in ball handling; a little work on remaining poised; and just a slight improvement in his defensive consistency and he's there!
Both of these guys are pieces coaches would love to work with!
KW is very close to being a finished product. A little more consistency on his shot; an improvement in ball handling; a little work on remaining poised; and just a slight improvement in his defensive consistency and he's there!
Both of these guys are pieces coaches would love to work with!
AS one of the very few that said all summer that I prefered Kenny to start at the 2, I have seen nothing to change my thinking on that. I was told that kenny couldn't shoot and his 1-13 from trey was used many times to retort me, well even if he is not a lights out shooter just yet, he is far from JP jump shooting like. I was told many times how Theo had worked on his shot during the off season and it was much better, however it was not much better the couple of occasions I had to see him over the summer. I was told that Theo was a lock down defender and yet Kenny has IMO been very solid defending the 2, what I have not seen is Theo defending the 2, he has worked at the 3 and the 4 but rarely seen at the 2. Can he be as effective as kenny as a defender of the quicker 2 guards, IDK, we have to see that to know, myself and everyone else.
I prefer to bank on Theo for the things I have seen him do and do well, defending the wings and power forwards, being a glue guy, being a guy we can switch screens with, pulling big men out to challenge his ability to distribute. Not so sure I like him for things I have not seen him do well, outside jump shooting being the primary concern. Based on what you have seen so far, there is no way you can think Theo is a better jump shooting threat than kenny, you can't even know if he can defend the 2 at the level Kenny has. Love Theo as a player but just not sold on him at the 2, maybe I will be, but as of right now I have to see it before I can sign on for it.
I prefer to bank on Theo for the things I have seen him do and do well, defending the wings and power forwards, being a glue guy, being a guy we can switch screens with, pulling big men out to challenge his ability to distribute. Not so sure I like him for things I have not seen him do well, outside jump shooting being the primary concern. Based on what you have seen so far, there is no way you can think Theo is a better jump shooting threat than kenny, you can't even know if he can defend the 2 at the level Kenny has. Love Theo as a player but just not sold on him at the 2, maybe I will be, but as of right now I have to see it before I can sign on for it.
Theo was a better defender all year last year than Kenny has been so far. Idk why you'd need to be sold on that. As far as jump shooting, besides a couple games Kenny has been rather average or even below. In fact if you compare their numbers shooting wise I'd bet they aren't far apart as you're making it out to be.
Theo was shooting 40% from the field and 29% from three last year. Kenny is at 45% and 35%. Before Kenny's recent slump he was shooting over 40% from three. Kenny is averaging 7 and 4 right now. Are you expecting Theo to average more than that? Before the season that's about the numbers I thought we needed from the SG spot. I think Theo can help us the most from the four and the three.
Like JP before him, his passing can sometimes dazzle. But also like JP his casual passing sometimes gets lazy or telegraphed. I hope we can see improvements on that last part.
I expected Theo to be ahead of JP by this juncture, but because of injuries he may not be. Still, before JP became unhappy, he was a great addition to the team and I expect Theo will be, too. I just hope we give him enough slack to let him work back into the game before we expect him to save the
I'm not sure I agree. Like most things about Theo, he could be brilliant on D, but he could also lose sight of his guy when his guy didn't have the ball. So he could be great one trip and then give up wide open shots the next.
From what I've seen of Kenny, he doesn't have the impressive athleticism of Theo (although he isn't bad) but he also isn't nearly as likely to lose focus.
If I need to shut a hot player down without fail for a short spell, I'm picking Theo. But like his shooting and passing Theo needs to improve his consistency on D.
No point in arguing this. It's like music. You may like an artist because every album has a few great songs - while I may rate him lower because each album only has a few great songs. Same description, different assessment. [Back in my day that description characterized those who did and didn't like Led Zeppelin.]
Yeah we also have to factor in Kenny went 8-10 in one game from 3 in a meaningless blowout vs. Radford. If Theo hadn't been hurt yes I'd expect him to surpass those numbers. Kenny just doesn't do it for me like he seems to a lot of people on this board, and that's fine. He's a fine role player on an elite ball club in my opinion, but not much more. And as I thought the numbers aren't hugely different. Some on here make it out like Kenny is like Reggie bullock from 3 while Theo is like Tokoto. Not the case at all.
Regardless, if nothing else Theo will help this team in multiple ways even if it doesn't show on the stat sheet.
10 bucks this thread doesn't get combined.
