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Will Bacot be a lottery pick?

What is your thought on this. If not I still feel he will be a 1st round pick.

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Unfortunately, nope! He could play his way onto a roster since rebounding is his + skill! He is strong and big and a relentless rebounder, especially offensive o he might get a look. He will likely make his money overseas or through coaching! Actually forgot to mention he is banking serious dollars now and he knows what to do with it since he is getting a business degree!
 
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What is your thought on this. If not I still feel he will be a 1st round pick.
The NBA doesn't want traditional low post centers anymore. It's why Bacot, Edey, Timme, Jackson-Davis, and national player of the year Tshiebwe were all projected to go mid 2nd to undrafted this past summer and returned to school. It's why 1st team All American Kofi Cockburn went undrafted and is now playing in Japan.

The NBA isn't using 1st round or early 2nd round picks on Centers unless:

- they are very young and the scouts believe they can be developed into a modern center

- they possess ridiculous measurables (Kessler, Mark Williams)

- they are good 3pt shooters and perimeter players, already possessing skills to be a modern center


Unless Bacot suddenly turns into a 3pt sniper, there isn't anything he does that is going to get him drafted before the middle of the 2nd round, which means a non-guaranteed $50,000 G-League contract. So his choice this spring is the same as last spring. Do you want to ride busses to G-League games where you never know if you're going to be cut and even get your full $50 grand? Or do you want to return to Chapel Hill, be one of the faces of college basketball, and make a lot more money thanks to NIL deals.
 
What is your thought on this. If not I still feel he will be a 1st round pick.
He doesn't have an outside jump shot so that's not good and most all teams want people who can shoot no matter what their position is, he is ok but not a great free throw shooter, he runs the floor ok for his size and is a good defensive player and a good passer. His strength is rebounding and scoring around the basket. He is a team player and plays hurt often . Some team will draft him probably late in the first or early second round would be my guess. Injuries last year and this year will be a concern to some. As good as he is and as tough as he is the NBA is a different animal ,run and gun three point shots ,slam dunk no defense game, and it is every night 82 of them minus playoffs, he will certainly need to adjust his game some but if anyone can do it he can.
 
To the OPs question, no he will not be drafted lotto but he should be...
 
He doesn't have an outside jump shot so that's not good and most all teams want people who can shoot no matter what their position is, he is ok but not a great free throw shooter, he runs the floor ok for his size and is a good defensive player and a good passer. His strength is rebounding and scoring around the basket. He is a team player and plays hurt often . Some team will draft him probably late in the first or early second round would be my guess. Injuries last year and this year will be a concern to some. As good as he is and as tough as he is the NBA is a different animal ,run and gun three point shots ,slam dunk no defense game, and it is every night 82 of them minus playoffs, he will certainly need to adjust his game some but if anyone can do it he can.
Bacot's chances of being a rotational NBA player is he can guard ball screens and not be a liability defensively. It's hard to say whether his offensive production will translate to the NBA because there aren't as many big guys in college who has his size. He probably will never be a perimeter shooting threat.

High end comparison Jacob Poeltl. More realistic... Maybe a thicker Robin Lopez. Solid role player for years if he plays his cards right.

His age also hurts him. He's going to be 23 if he gets drafted this year.
 
What is your thought on this. If not I still feel he will be a 1st round pick.
I see you support The Rogue Shop . No handle, no shot, no size (NBA type) = no chance. Decent college player but not NBA caliber and not really close. jmo
 
Right now he is maybe 50/50 to be picked at all. If he does get to hear his name called it would be at the end of 2nd round type.

He really does not have a strength for the NBA game, but many weaknesses. Longshot for sure. He is one of the Kings of NIL though, making another million while at UNC is a serious option.
 
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Right now he is maybe 50/50 to be picked at all. If he does get to hear his name called it would be at the end of 2nd round type.

He really does not have a strength for the NBA game, but many weaknesses. Longshot for sure. He is one of the Kings of NIL though, making another million while at UNC is a serious option.
Interesting thought. If Bacot stayed another yr. for NIL how would that affect the development and roles of the the current (and incoming) players going forward ??
 
Interesting thought. If Bacot stayed another yr. for NIL how would that affect the development and roles of the the current (and incoming) players going forward ??
I think Washington slides into Nance's role. High takes Washington's role. Shaver same role as this year. I do not see Nickel or Puff as primary 4's, much better served playing the 3. So little to no negative effect for next year in development ? Except Styles may be portal bound, but that could be the case either way?
 
Bacot would make 2M in NIL at UNC next year verses 50K in the G-League. He would graduate with his business degree and then start an Investment firm and make 5M a year investing athletes money, No brainer!
Good luck with the investing other peeps $$ .. that is a mfng tough road .. but his degree and grub stake with the NIL is a helluva lot better than most will ever get.
 
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Good luck with the investing other peeps $$ .. that is a mfng tough road .. but his degree and grub stake with the NIL is a helluva lot better than most will ever get.
It is a tough road, but I see Bacot actually turning away some athletes. For example, if someone comes to him wanting to invest in something like Cryto, I see him telling them to hit the road and go to the internet and to it on their own. Good advisors turn folks away, and I see Bacot doing that. The guy has a good head on his shoulders. He can be very selective. Also, I can see him being a sports agent.
 
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If this was 15 years ago, Bacot would definitely be a lottery pick. Same for Tshiebwe, Timme, Jackson-Davis, Cockburn...

The NBA no longer values traditional low post scorers and rebounders. If you're a big man you better be able to shoot or soar to block shots.
 
agree for all the reasons above. no chance he's a lottery pick. he will be lucky to be picked, and likely a mid 2nd rounder at best.
 
Bacot would make 2M in NIL at UNC next year verses 50K in the G-League. He would graduate with his business degree and then start an Investment firm and make 5M a year investing athletes money, No brainer!

You've mentioned this before and I give you credit, it's a good route for Bacot to potentially take and I too think he could be successful with it.

But honestly, Mando has achieved a level of fame at this point that he'll be able to make money simply from being famous. Sounds weird but in this day and age, there are far less talented, smart, likeable, affable people who have made it because of social media. We live in times when people can get rich and famous for absolutely nothing. Mando has a head start because of his college basketball fame. Plus, he's now dabbling in acting. I could see him being famous for simply being famous and making a nice life for himself from it. If I'm him, I don't even bother with basketball after graduation.
 
Shooting would help Mando but it's not his biggest problem. The NBA is about length, quickness, and verticality on D. Bacot doesn't really bring any of those things; he'd be a big defensive liability and yes on top of that his strength wouldn't translate that much on offense.
 
LOVEEE Bacot and everything he has done at UNC, but he is a 2nd round pick in the NBA. Not a knock on him, his game just doesn’t translate as well as it would have maybe 10-15 years ago. He will get a shot though and hope he proves everyone (including me) wrong.
 
No. If Bacot had that value he would have gone last year. 30 years ago, Bacot would have been a lottery pick as everybody wanted big bodied bangers in the paint. But the game has changed. At his size, he has the height of a 4. And these days everybody wants their 4's and even their 5's to have some semblance of an outside game, if not the ability to hit 3's. And he would be a defensive liability if he had to guard some of the 4's o the perimeter. I see him being a 2nd round guy. Hang around as a bench filler for a couple years and then head overseas
 
Great college players do not always equate to great NBA players, see Tyler or Joel for more info on this! LOL
 
Great college players do not always equate to great NBA players, see Tyler or Joel for more info on this! LOL
Totally agree but Tyler had a decent career and could have been a little better in the right situation. Nba is definitely situational. ie spurs and pop
 
No. If Bacot had that value he would have gone last year. 30 years ago, Bacot would have been a lottery pick as everybody wanted big bodied bangers in the paint.
Heck it was only 18 years ago May went lottery. 14 years ago Hansbrough went lottery. 8 years ago Okafor went #3 overall. So the NBA rejecting traditional low post bigs is a very recent change. A decade ago Bacot is a lottery pick.
 
Heck it was only 18 years ago May went lottery. 14 years ago Hansbrough went lottery. 8 years ago Okafor went #3 overall. So the NBA rejecting traditional low post bigs is a very recent change. A decade ago Bacot is a lottery pick.
Tough to imagine those days. That’s why I said it can so situational. While he probably won’t be lottery, I can see him on a team with some help minutes.
 
Tough to imagine those days. That’s why I said it can so situational. While he probably won’t be lottery, I can see him on a team with some help minutes.
I sure hope he gets a legit shot at helping a nba team. Right now Day'Ron Sharpe plays mainly in the G-League, had a monster game when a bunch of starters rested for the Nets, and they still sent him back to the G-League. Tony Bradley has played in 9 games for the Bulls, but mainly just sits the bench, even though he had some really good games starting for Philly when Embiid was out. Do we get to still claim Kessler? All the other Tar Heel bigs are out of the league.
 
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I sure hope he gets a legit shot at helping a nba team. Right now Day'Ron Sharpe plays mainly in the G-League, had a monster game when a bunch of starters rested for the Nets, and they still sent him back to the G-League. Tony Bradley has played in 9 games for the Bulls, but mainly just sits the bench, even though he had some really good games starting for Philly when Embiid was out. Do we get to still claim Kessler? All the other Tar Heel bigs are out of the league.
I don’t look at anything Chicago does. Imo their staff is horrible. Got a little better the last coaching change though.
 
No. If Bacot had that value he would have gone last year. 30 years ago, Bacot would have been a lottery pick as everybody wanted big bodied bangers in the paint. But the game has changed. At his size, he has the height of a 4. And these days everybody wants their 4's and even their 5's to have some semblance of an outside game, if not the ability to hit 3's. And he would be a defensive liability if he had to guard some of the 4's o the perimeter. I see him being a 2nd round guy. Hang around as a bench filler for a couple years and then head overseas
The game has evolved at the top level, a Billy Paultz type big can't compete, if he wanted to be at the elite level he would have left after his freshman year, sophomore at most, and worked on those skills. He openly admits he would of had to leave at that point without NIL, but with NIL and his advanced age now to begin to work on a league skill set for his makeup doesn't make a lot of sense. He is getting paid 7 digits to play against 18/19 year old future NBA bigs or older future insurance agents or overseas pro player bigs. He is the cream of the crop of those.
 
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I sure hope he gets a legit shot at helping a nba team. Right now Day'Ron Sharpe plays mainly in the G-League, had a monster game when a bunch of starters rested for the Nets, and they still sent him back to the G-League. Tony Bradley has played in 9 games for the Bulls, but mainly just sits the bench, even though he had some really good games starting for Philly when Embiid was out. Do we get to still claim Kessler? All the other Tar Heel bigs are out of the league.
Day'ron is a well thought of young big. He has developed the aspects that is going to get him a solid 2nd contract with Brooklyn or elsewhere. He has developed and is young, as a Heels fan I would of loved for him to stay, but he certainly made the right decision.
 
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Heck it was only 18 years ago May went lottery. 14 years ago Hansbrough went lottery. 8 years ago Okafor went #3 overall. So the NBA rejecting traditional low post bigs is a very recent change. A decade ago Bacot is a lottery pick.
Heck Kessler was a mid-first round pick only last year and he could barely get off the bench the year before due to Garrison Brooks! Lol.

NBA wants long, versatile, athletic big men that can move in space, be a good dive man, and ideally provide some spacing. Bacot doesn't really do any of that.
 
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You need way more height to get drafted that high with Bacots game. Hubert himself they said told Bacot he wouldn't get drafted unless he developed a consistent 3 shot. Then he came in off the off-season supposedly having developed one and being 3cot. But, has looked awful every time he has attempted one.
 
Mando will return for his swan song and make 1-2 million dollars. There’s no other deal out there that even approaches those earnings.
This is such a major thing and I have absolutely no idea if he will do it. It makes total sense but the human element is also there.

Maybe he wants to go overseas and play. Maybe he's sick of classes. Maybe he wants to be a reality TV star.

I agree that there's definitely no better deal out there and it makes so much sense for him to go to grad school to get his MBA knowing how good of a business student that he is.
 
Bacot has the business savvy to realize that his effort in building his "brand" is paying off nicely with his alliance with both the college game and UNC. If he is looking at a late second round spot with the very real potential of not being drafted at all, why not milk the college/UNC NIL opps as long as he can? If he elects to play Euro ball, which I think would be a solid option for him when he leaves UNC, realize that could come at the cost of his losing some if not all the branding he has achieved because he would be out of sight and thus out of mind.

It could be that Bacot elects to step away from basketball when he is done at UNC and dive directly in to business so that "brand" he has built can move forward profitably, may have more potential income that way than playing in Europe. I saw someone toss out in the last couple days the what if he decided to become a sports agent. When you consider that and consider that he has been making huge connections with the best college players out there, one of his best buds is Oscar at Ky, he would have a great base of potential clients day 1 to pitch. Point being, could he make 2nd contract money wearing a suit and pitching his college buddies? Interesting idea actually?
 
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