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Will Muschamp to be fired?

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There is talk.

As I tried to get SoCar fans to see last year, if UNC and Clemson are winning, any SoCar coach not well over .500 is on a Hot Seat.

Which two or three coaches would be the top targets? Freeze has won in the SEC. Fickell is the hottest G5 coach over the past 2 seasons. Josh Heupel now has southeastern experience.
 
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he was let go early today...tanner might be next.

top two candidates appear to be billy napier and hugh freeze.
 
gteeitup said:
he was let go early today...tanner might be next.

top two candidates appear to be billy napier and hugh freeze.
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Napier was a Clemson assistant, so he knows SC well. And he's done a great job in Lafayette, which has a history of lousy football followed by mediocre football followed by bad football.
But if you know SC, you know that when Clemson is on a roll, SoCar usually loses.
 
SC is a tough place to coach football, but I’ve disliked that school since they were in the ACC. I enjoy their mediocrity, much as I enjoy State’s. It also helps our recruiting when both those schools are irrelevant.
 
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Man muschamp has gone from the “coach in waiting” at Texas to now can’t keep a job. No sorrow for the yardbirds here. Knowing how they seem to always screw this up they will probably find some high school coach to take over.
Seriously they could go with bobby Bentley who is on staff and has had success coaching high school (Byrnes) as well as coached at Presbyterian college. They need to make a splash in order to keep up with clemsuck. The fan base is loyal even though they really have nothing to hang their hat on. Suck it yardturds!!
 
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Wonder how many recruits jump off the sinking ship? Probably gonna lose the 2022 5* QB (if he’s smart).
 
sctarheel30 said:
Wonder how many recruits jump off the sinking ship? Probably gonna lose the 2022 5* QB (if he’s smart).
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Supposedly the main reason he chose SoCar is HS coaching tree ties. He also seems to like Bobo - but will Bobo be retained by the next HC?
 
sctarheel30 said:
Man muschamp has gone from the “coach in waiting” at Texas to now can’t keep a job. No sorrow for the yardbirds here. Knowing how they seem to always screw this up they will probably find some high school coach to take over.
Seriously they could go with bobby Bentley who is on staff and has had success coaching high school (Byrnes) as well as coached at Presbyterian college. They need to make a splash in order to keep up with clemsuck. The fan base is loyal even though they really have nothing to hang their hat on. Suck it yardturds!!
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Clemson is the main reason many coaches will balk at taking SoCar, if they think they can land another P5 within a year. When Clemson is steamrolling, the Gamecocks struggle to be better than .500.

Freeze knows that another P5 is going to offer him no later than for 2022. Why risk being under the thumb of Dabo and the Tigers when you could replace Fuente at VT and quickly come to own VA? Tennessee is realizing that Pruitt is never going to get it done. Freeze could win big there.

Fickell knows that he now can walk into any open Big Ten HC job, except Michigan. Matt Campbell can name Big Ten jobs the same way.

Billy Napier will be on short lists for openings in the ACC and Big 12, as well as around the SEC. And he knows how dominant Clemson is historically over SoCar.

The Gamecocks could end up with a Shane Beamer as HC.
 
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I’m sure they believe they will land urban Meyer lol. It’s a tough job that’s for sure.
 
Archer2 said:
SC is a tough place to coach football, but I’ve disliked that school since they were in the ACC. I enjoy their mediocrity, much as I enjoy State’s. It also helps our recruiting when both those schools are irrelevant.
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well-said, except "tough place to coach" is an understatement. try "he// hole."
 
UK coach Stoops is 47-48 overall and 23-40 in the weaker division of the SEC. He’s in his eighth season. He’s another coach that could be on the hot seat.
 
gteeitup said:
that might be the hardest job in the league...i’m not counting vandy though, lol.
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vandy is not as hard, they're an elite academic school with very low/reasonable expectations in football. scar has mediocrity plus high expectations = coaches nightmare.
 
JimmyinVA said:
vandy is not as hard, they're an elite academic school with very low/reasonable expectations in football. scar has mediocrity plus high expectations = coaches nightmare.
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scarolina has a decent talent pool and is surrounded by fertile areas, rock hill area is loaded...kentucky is just stuck.

agree about vandy...football there is like a circus or carnival seven times a year...the best city/town of any sec school, though.
 
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gteeitup said:
...agree about vandy...football there is like a circus or carnival seven times a year...the best city/town of any sec school, though.
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i've never been to a football game at vandy but judging from tv it seems like a nice social gathering. sweet gig for a football coach -- great school, beautiful campus, great city, and best of all: low expectations.
 
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JimmyinVA said:
i've never been to a football game at vandy but judging from tv it seems like a nice social gathering. sweet gig for a football coach -- great school, beautiful campus, great city, and best of all: low expectations.
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Yeah, that's a great gig. Hell, coach Wake to 7 wins a year , beat UNC now and then, and their alumni are happy. No great expectations to deal with.
 
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JimmyinVA said:
i've never been to a football game at vandy but judging from tv it seems like a nice social gathering. sweet gig for a football coach -- great school, beautiful campus, great city, and best of all: low expectations.
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Vandy football crowd is reasonable, and often beyond reasonable. They accept too much losing unless they come to dislike the coach.
 
WoadBlue said:
UK coach beats Tennessee and Louisville - he's good to go at least one more year.
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Yeah, winning those local rivalries goes a long way towards job retention. You know Mack loved “winning the state” this year. It aids recruiting and placates alumni to a certain extent.
 
WoadBlue said:
The State Landing Spots for Muschamp

As you might guess, the focus is a new Muschamp job so SoCar pays him less. The valid point is that a whole lot of Ds need a lot of improvement.

UNC is on the list.
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I'd be ok with hiring him as an analyst next year. Give Bateman one more year and if there isn't significant improvement, you can replace him with Muschamp being a top contender.
 
tarheel0910 said:
I'd be ok with hiring him as an analyst next year. Give Bateman one more year and if there isn't significant improvement, you can replace him with Muschamp being a top contender.
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Bateman did a helluva job last year in year 1. Lost Dorn, Crawford, Strow and then Wolf this year in addition to Duck having only played 1 full game. If they can stay somewhat healthy, he's gonna have those dudes balling next year, mark it down.
 
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Might be the worst job in p5. High expectations START with beating Clemson and winning sec division...don’t do that REAL SOON and you’ll be gone before you unpack the boxes in the garage. Oh and u have to convince kids to come to that shit hole Columbia.
 
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There is a rumor that Army's Jeff Monken is a top candidate to get the SoCar job. And all kinds of Gamecock fans are up in arms.
 
So what I wonder is - if you think the best you can do is land Shane Beamer, and that was not flying well with boosters or general fans, do you float the name of a triple option coach so fans will embrace Beamer to avoid the triple option?
 
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WoadBlue said:
So what I wonder is - if you think the best you can do is land Shane Beamer, and that was not flying well with boosters or general fans, do you float the name of a triple option coach so fans will embrace Beamer to avoid the triple option?
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yes...imo, this is a caslen carrot...neal brown is a more viable candidate.

tanner would need 24hr security before he was escorted out of town.
 
gteeitup said:
yes...imo, this is a caslen carrot...neal brown is a more viable candidate.

tanner would need 24hr security before he was escorted out of town.
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Ray Tanner is a Wuffie, so I think would be highly entertaining if he were to get run of town.

Brown is in only his second year at WVU? Would he leave that quickly? And for a very tough place to win in the SEC?
 
WoadBlue said:
Ray Tanner is a Wuffie, so I think would be highly entertaining if he were to get run of town.

Brown is in only his second year at WVU? Would he leave that quickly? And for a very tough place to win in the SEC?
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i wouldn’t leave yet, not for scarolina.
 
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South Carolina is on its face, a good job. Pays well. Facilities as nice as anybody. But there current circumstance leaves them with being an 8, maybe 9, win team even in their best years with their schedule. Doesnt help that their two main rivals are each 100 miles from them and annually haul in top 5 recruiting classes. Then they have to play Florida and TAMU every year, plus whomever else pops up in the SEC. Worst mistake USC ever made was leaving the ACC. They would be more competitive in football, and their basketball program wouldn't have been roaming in the wilderness for 45 years. Frank McGuire tried to tell them they were making a mistake 50 years ago. Paul Dietzel convinced the power brokers that all that stood between USC and football greatness was being able to avoid the academic requirements by the ACC at that time. Frank tried to tell them that it wouldn't help football much, but that it would kill their basketball program. And he was right.
 
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sctarheel30 said:
Would love to see monken get the job just for the uproar
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That could provide weeks of entertainment. Especially if Vandy were also to go after him. Then we'd see Gamecocks between either a rock (losing out to Vandy for a football coach) or a hard place (getting the triple option). Whichever would come to pass, SoCar fans would be haunted for a long time.
 
midline said:
South Carolina is on its face, a good job. Pays well. Facilities as nice as anybody. But there current circumstance leaves them with being an 8, maybe 9, win team even in their best years with their schedule. Doesnt help that their two main rivals are each 100 miles from them and annually haul in top 5 recruiting classes. Then they have to play Florida and TAMU every year, plus whomever else pops up in the SEC. Worst mistake USC ever made was leaving the ACC. They would be more competitive in football, and their basketball program wouldn't have been roaming in the wilderness for 45 years. Frank McGuire tried to tell them they were making a mistake 50 years ago. Paul Dietzel convinced the power brokers that all that stood between USC and football greatness was being able to avoid the academic requirements by the ACC at that time. Frank tried to tell them that it wouldn't help football much, but that it would kill their basketball program. And he was right.
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If SoCar were still in the ACC, it would have a bunch of meaningful league rivalries, with UNC being the second biggest/most important. In the SEC, SoCar is nobody's rival. Yes, SC borders GA, but UGA has GT, Auburn, and Florida, as well as Tennessee. SoCar is an after thought to UGA.

I remember the crazy claim made by the craziest SoCar fans about leaving the ACC. They were certain they would become a major football power nationally, and that the basketball status they had acquired under Franck McGuire would only increase.

Forgotten by almost everyone is that a few SoCar alums in the state legislature attempted to use state government to force Clemson either to leave the ACC also or to go back to the old days when all Clemson-SoCar football games were played in Columbia.
 
Well, USC looks at UGA as their other main rival besides Clemson. But to have a true rivalry the other team has to view you in the same fashion. And UGA does not. To them, USC is merely another team on the schedule. USC would be much better off in the ACC. This year spiraling out of control not being considered, as a program, USC can compete with anybody in the ACC outside of Clemson. And you have the natural rivalries that went back decades. Oddly enough, all of my Clemson friends say they wish they were in the SEC so they would have some decent home games. But if they had that schedule, I doubt they would have ever been able to put enough wins together to build the program to what ut has become. At this point though, they pretty much use the ACC schedule as practice games as they prepare for the playoffs.
 
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