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Will UNC and Duke Flip-Flop Styles this Season?

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The biggest differences are 3-point shooting and rebounding.

Not only did Duke shoot well (37.9% as a team) but they shot a lot from deep. Nearly 40% of their scoring from the floor (not free throws) came from treys. Whereas only 31% of our scoring from the floor came from treys.

We lost Justin (36.8). We got Cam (who shot better from deep, 41.5, than Justin albeit on a different team). We still have Joel (38.2), Kenny (33.8) and Luke (40.0). We not only expect some of our returning players to be better from deep this season, we also added a couple of frosh who may contribute (Jalek and Andrew). But you never know about freshmen.

Duke lost Kennard (43.8), Jackson (39.5), Tatum (34.2) and Jones (34.2). Their only returning sharpshooter is Allen (36.5). They have Duval and Trent coming in, plus a couple of other guys. But, again, you never know about freshmen.

We had a great front line last season both in scoring and in rebounding. Solid and deep. All but one of those guys is gone. And while we have a bunch of newcomers up front, they are all low-ranked and, one more time, you never know about freshmen.

Duke had a great front line on paper last season, but it never lived up to its hype. Giles' injury, under-performance by Bolden, Jeter and Delaurier. Proving the freshman caveat. It's reasonable to expect Bolden and Delaurier to be much better. And Duke add the #1 and #7 guys in the class to their front line. Odds are they won't be let down up front 2 years in a row.

In these ways, it's almost like the 2 rivals have switched personalities for the upcoming season. Each coach will have to make adjustments.

Field Goal %
UNC - 66th 46.6 FG%
Duke - 36th 47.5 FG%

3-point %
UNC - 148th 35.5 3P%
Duke - 54th 37.9 3P%

Points Scored
UNC - 1st 3377 Pts
Duke - 9th 2991 Pts

Total Rebounds
UNC - 1st 43.7 RPG
Duke - 147th 36.2 RPG

Point Distribution (% of total points) (Pomeroy)
3-Pointers:
UNC - 25.3
Duke - 31.2
2-Pointers:
UNC - 55.8
Duke - 47.3
Free Throws:
UNC - 18.9
Duke - 21.5
 
The biggest differences are 3-point shooting and rebounding.

Not only did Duke shoot well (37.9% as a team) but they shot a lot from deep. Nearly 40% of their scoring from the floor (not free throws) came from treys. Whereas only 31% of our scoring from the floor came from treys.

We lost Justin (36.8). We got Cam (who shot better from deep, 41.5, than Justin albeit on a different team). We still have Joel (38.2), Kenny (33.8) and Luke (40.0). We not only expect some of our returning players to be better from deep this season, we also added a couple of frosh who may contribute (Jalek and Andrew). But you never know about freshmen.

Duke lost Kennard (43.8), Jackson (39.5), Tatum (34.2) and Jones (34.2). Their only returning sharpshooter is Allen (36.5). They have Duval and Trent coming in, plus a couple of other guys. But, again, you never know about freshmen.

We had a great front line last season both in scoring and in rebounding. Solid and deep. All but one of those guys is gone. And while we have a bunch of newcomers up front, they are all low-ranked and, one more time, you never know about freshmen.

Duke had a great front line on paper last season, but it never lived up to its hype. Giles' injury, under-performance by Bolden, Jeter and Delaurier. Proving the freshman caveat. It's reasonable to expect Bolden and Delaurier to be much better. And Duke add the #1 and #7 guys in the class to their front line. Odds are they won't be let down up front 2 years in a row.

In these ways, it's almost like the 2 rivals have switched personalities for the upcoming season. Each coach will have to make adjustments.

Field Goal %
UNC - 66th 46.6 FG%
Duke - 36th 47.5 FG%

3-point %
UNC - 148th 35.5 3P%
Duke - 54th 37.9 3P%

Points Scored
UNC - 1st 3377 Pts
Duke - 9th 2991 Pts

Total Rebounds
UNC - 1st 43.7 RPG
Duke - 147th 36.2 RPG

Point Distribution (% of total points) (Pomeroy)
3-Pointers:
UNC - 25.3
Duke - 31.2
2-Pointers:
UNC - 55.8
Duke - 47.3
Free Throws:
UNC - 18.9
Duke - 21.5

I hope we don't switch styles. I would hate to see us flopping, tripping, crying and whining.
 
I do think they'll go inside a bit more and we'll score less points in the paint. But don't look for Roy to ever live and die by the three as Knight Lite has done in recent years. Roy will still try very hard to establish an inside game.
 
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I do think they'll go inside a bit more and we'll score less points in the paint. But don't look for Roy to ever live and die by the three as Knight Lite has done in recent years. Roy will still try very hard to establish an inside game.
I fully expect Roy to give our new guys every chance to step up and fit his normal system. But as we all know, we're exploring uncharted territory up front. We saw Roy stick with Brice and Joel James as freshmen for as long as he could, before going small. I assume he'll do the same with out new crop of bigs.

But I do think Duke will change a lot with all those high-ranked big guys. K hasn't had that kind of front line in a long time (with everybody healthy), but he probably remembers what to do.
 
I do think they'll go inside a bit more and we'll score less points in the paint. But don't look for Roy to ever live and die by the three as Knight Lite has done in recent years. Roy will still try very hard to establish an inside game.
I fully expect Roy to give our new guys every chance to step up and fit his normal system. But as we all know, we're exploring uncharted territory up front. We saw Roy stick with Brice and Joel James as freshmen for as long as he could, before going small. I assume he'll do the same with our new crop of bigs.

But I do think Duke will change a lot with all those high-ranked big guys. K hasn't had that kind of front line in a long time (with everybody healthy), but he probably remembers what to do.
 
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It seems to me that rat has always built his teams to try to beat Carolina, under the theory that if you can beat Dean's philosophy, you can beat most anyone, and that has been very successful.

I do see that roles are getting changed recently to some degree. It is fascinating to see both UNC and dook adapt to the extreme volatility in today's game, and for sure rat is employing plenty of Dean's tactics much more than he ever used to, at least 5-3 years ago

Will be very interesting to see what happens this season for Carolina, I doubt Coach Williams will reinvent the wheel from whole cloth
 
If there is one thing we all agree about Roy, it is that he is stubborn! His record indicates why he has every right to stick to his guns! As others have said, I expect him to play fast (possibly even faster than last year; this is the change due to personnel) and try to get his bigs up to speed as quickly as they can. I would bet we play a little more small ball, but the Inside-Out approach will still be the backbone of our system. BTW: I can't see him doing anything but tweaking the 2ndary Break, but I expect the most noticeable difference on D. I expect more 3/4 to Full court Man; more traps and jump switches; and an emphasis on hawking your man this year. I hope he can finally get a team to play at Warp Speed!
 
Exactly which tactics of Deans do you see Ratface adopting? Holding, grabbing jerseys, tripping, intimidating officials, language so foul it even embarrasses Mickie, lying to recruits, talking HS juniors into skipping their senior years?

strong point. Admittedly I don't watch any dook crap because it makes me physically sick. what little i have seen recently he seems to have gone slightly more inside than the game of HORSE he used to play, but who really gives a krap? not me.

as far as i am concerned the gothic vunderlund can be nuked to the bedrock and the rock salted
 
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as far as i am concerned the gothic vunderlund can be nuked to the bedrock and the rock salted

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