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It's impossible not to. Life's unfair.I don't want to pay for anyone else's healthcare either.
Yes. Given all that we know about it and have learned about it in the ~80 years since it was federally criminalized, it's absurd that people are still getting imprisoned and killed over it.
As far as all the caveats and restrictions mentioned above, it should be treated like alcohol, no worse.
As far as all the caveats and restrictions mentioned above, it should be treated like alcohol, no worse.
Disagree. Alcohol has essentially been "grandfathered in" because it pre-dates any form of U.S. federal government restrictions and taxation. Alcohol has been present before America was a country. If it had only recently been discovered, like weed, then it would and should be given the same taxation treatment (i.e. tax the shit out of it) as weed.Yes. Given all that we know about it and have learned about it in the ~80 years since it was federally criminalized, it's absurd that people are still getting imprisoned and killed over it.
As far as all the caveats and restrictions mentioned above, it should be treated like alcohol, no worse.
Alcohol has been present before America was a country. If it had only recently been discovered, like weed, then it would and should be given the same taxation treatment (i.e. tax the shit out of it) as weed.
Yeah I wasn't quite sure what to make of that part. Martha Washington was a hip, hip lady.Are you being facetious here? Weed has been around a lot longer than the USA has been a country...
Are you being facetious here? Weed has been around a lot longer than the USA has been a country...
Yeah but are y'all serious? You gonna try to say weed was even 20% as prevalent as alcohol before 1950?Yeah I wasn't quite sure what to make of that part. Martha Washington was a hip, hip lady.
I don't count discoveries by indians.We were replying to the words "present" and "discovered." Certainly alcohol was more common but you can't say weed didn't exist or hadn't been discovered.
This is funny I guess but you do know that cannabis was present in American society (not just Native American) long before the 20th century, right? You could buy it in the pharmacy.I don't count discoveries by indians.
Yeah this is why Republican voters such as myself hate taxation. Like you, I'm against heavy taxation, period. BUT....and this is a big 'but,' if the federal government could convince me that the revenue from heavy taxation would be used only for worthwhile things like infrastructure, defense, schools, and NOT handouts for people who don't do a damn thing to deserve it, then maybe, maybe I'd be okay with it. But as we know, that's pie in the sky thinking because the federal government is so wasteful.^ Yes, what Julez said. Although I do agree with your general premise that it can be fairly heavily taxed, as sort of a "sin tax". Even though I'm against heavy taxation in general (I mean, I guess who isn't?), but I mean more that heavy taxing in order to provide money for government handouts isn't my cup of tea. Obviously we need tax revenue to pay for infrastructure, defense, schools, etc. And taxing things people use for enjoyment (especially those that could be potentially harmful) makes more sense than taxing someone's income.
It's okay to just laugh It was a joke.This is funny I guess but you do know that cannabis was present in American society (not just Native American) long before the 20th century, right? You could buy it in the pharmacy.
Yeah this is why Republican voters such as myself hate taxation. Like you, I'm against heavy taxation, period. BUT....and this is a big 'but,' if the federal government could convince me that the revenue from heavy taxation would be used only for worthwhile things like infrastructure, defense, schools, and NOT handouts for people who don't do a damn thing to deserve it, then maybe, maybe I'd be okay with it. But as we know, that's pie in the sky thinking because the federal government is so wasteful.
Now that I think about it, my stance on heavily taxing weed is hypocritical and I accept that. It's hypocritical because I do not agree with "sin" taxes on cigs or alcohol. To me, that feels like, at best, the government attempting to legislate morality -- which I'm vehemently opposed to. At worst, it feels like what it really is, the government capitalizing on people (especially the poor) because they know people will always use tobacco and alcohol.
I'd be willing to except heavy taxation of gambling, just to get sports betting legal for goodness sake.
Yes, I don't agree with the government attempting to legislate morality either. But if given the choice between having heavier taxes on things like that, or income, I'd choose the "sin tax". The sin tax worked on me - as I've stated on here before, I quit dipping like 8 months ago or so now. One of the main reasons was how damn expensive it was getting. With the heavy taxes on tobacco in MA, I was paying close to $30 a week for dip (for "only" 3 tins) - which I thought was egregiously expensive. If we have taxation set up that way - if you want to lower your taxes, you just stop participating in "sinful" things like that (as opposed to bringing in less money if you want to lower your income tax) - and if you don't care, then keep on doing it.
I feel like gambling should be legal (I'm sure no one is surprised by that stance!) - and I feel like it should be treated exactly like investing in terms of taxes. Gains should be taxed as regular income (at least that's how they treat short term capital gains taxes), and gambling losses should be allowed to offset gambling gains (Say I win $10,000 on the Patriots winning the Super Bowl this year, but lose a $5000 prop bet on Cam Newton not acting like a douche bag this year - then I should only be taxed on a $5000 gambling gain at the end of the year).
(Also, damn you dude. I google image'd "casting gif" to try to find a gif of a dude casting a reel......and of course it comes up with casting couch gifs, so my huge computer monitor (at work!!) is littered with half naked girls on couches as well as a POV gif of a girl sucking **** Yikes. **Deletes history**)
That is actually already the case, Hark. You report gambling winnings as ordinary income and you are allowed to deduct your gambling losses to the extent of your winnings as a miscellaneous itemized deduction. You do have to be able to itemize deductions, however for this to be beneficial and you also have to reduce your miscellaneous deduction by 2% of your adjusted gross income.I feel like gambling should be legal (I'm sure no one is surprised by that stance!) - and I feel like it should be treated exactly like investing in terms of taxes. Gains should be taxed as regular income (at least that's how they treat short term capital gains taxes), and gambling losses should be allowed to offset gambling gains (Say I win $10,000 on the Patriots winning the Super Bowl this year, but lose a $5000 prop bet on Cam Newton not acting like a douche bag this year - then I should only be taxed on a $5000 gambling gain at the end of the year).
That is actually already the case, Hark. You report gambling winnings as ordinary income and you are allowed to deduct your gambling losses to the extent of your winnings as a miscellaneous itemized deduction. You do have to be able to itemize deductions, however for this to be beneficial and you also have to reduce your miscellaneous deduction by 2% of your adjusted gross income.
Marijuana doesn't make someone stupid. Ignorance makes someone stupid. Then there's just plain stupid. Marijuana can actually contribute to broadening a person's intellectual vistas. It all depends on the person.Sure. All we need is more lazy and stupid people in this country.
Sure. All we need is more lazy and stupid people in this country.