Let's Talk Trump

[WhatTheHeel?]

It likely will come down to who better sways the independent vote. I can't see many voters abandoning their party in the general election and I believe there are more registered democrats nationwide (not sure how it works out when you get down to the electoral college.) If someone is a Republican and really dislike Trump as the nominee, are they not going to still vote for him?

I'm a small town independent who leans a little more conservative the farther up the chain you go. Town council--party is irrelevant to me, county commissioner, lean a tad right, etc... up to president.) Right now, I find it very difficult to settle on a candidate on either side. On the Democrat side, I would much rather see Clinton than Sanders, but on the Republican side, I am really struggling. Of the candidates remaining in striking distance, I kind of like Rubio, but doubt he will be the nominee. Cruz, I am back and forth on depending on the latest thing he said. Trump worries me. Not from a management of the country side, but for things like Foreign Affairs. His short fuse just doesn't lend itself well to peace talks or trade discussions.

A while back, Michael Bloomberg made some noise about entering if Trump and Sanders are the nominees. That intrigues me and I'd be interested to see how his positions align with my own, but then you have the issue of possibly voting for a third party candidate that can't win because they won't attract anyone but ambivalent independents.

There is an old blessing/curse, "May you live in interesting times." Seems like this year will certainly be interesting.

 

[strummingram]

It would have been quicker to just say Trump is a politician.

He trumps most American politicians. I like him for his individualism. He doesn't appear to be a "party" guy. I don't see him accompanied by some group of other manipulated band-wagoners. I even like his enthusiasm and confidence. If he's frightening the establishment GOP (and DNC), that's great. But, when I pause and think "Do I want Donald f***ing Trump as PRESIDENT?", then I come back to reality a little.

 

[tarheel0910]

It likely will come down to who better sways the independent vote. I can't see many voters abandoning their party in the general election and I believe there are more registered democrats nationwide (not sure how it works out when you get down to the electoral college.) If someone is a Republican and really dislike Trump as the nominee, are they not going to still vote for him?

I think the percentage of people who identify as republican or democrat are pretty similar. In most cases those voters will just stay home if they don't like their nominee instead of voting for the other party. Like you said, it will come down to independents.

then you have the issue of possibly voting for a third party candidate that can't win because they won't attract anyone but ambivalent independents.

Just imagine how different all elections would look if people still voted for third party candidates that "can't win." I bet you would see a lot more third party candidates win. I've always voted for who I thought was best regardless of party and that includes a large amount of third party candidates.

 

[strummingram]

Just imagine how different all elections would look if people still voted for third party candidates that "can't win." I bet you would see a lot more third party candidates win. I've always voted for who I thought was best regardless of party and that includes a large amount of third party candidates.

Good man. Me too! Integrity is nice, isn't it?

 

[tarheel0910]

Good man. Me too! Integrity is nice, isn't it?

Integrity for elections, yes. I could be persuaded to be morally flexible in other areas.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Trying something different does not have to mean trying something stupid.

Exactly. And the candidate that receives the most of these types of votes will not be Trump. There will be millions of people voting for Hillary strictly because she's a woman and they want a woman president. Just because it'd be something new, doesn't mean we need to do something stupid to make it happen.

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Exactly. And the candidate that receives the most of these types of votes will not be Trump. There will be millions of people voting for Hillary strictly because she's a woman and they want a woman president. Just because it'd be something new, doesn't mean we need to do something stupid to make it happen.

And, there will be millions of idiots who believe electing an openly and unabashedly Socialist POTUS would be cool and different - just because it would be something new doesn't mean we need to do something stupid that would ruin this nation.

 

[tarheel0910]

And, there will be millions of idiots who believe electing an openly and unabashedly Socialist POTUS would be cool and different - just because it would be something new doesn't mean we need to do something stupid that would ruin this nation.

 

[Heels in Space]

Since a lot of people on this board are really good at coming up with clever nicknames for Democratic politicians (Maobama, Obummer, Moochelle, Shillary, Col. Socio-Sanders (?), Joe Bin-Biden (?!)), I thought we could get a head start on President Trump's nickname. To get us started is the below list, which is a subset of every nickname for Trump used by a particular blog in the past year. I'm kinda partial to "degloved zoo penis." Favorites?

• An ambitious corn dog that escaped from the concession stand at a rural Alabama fairground, stole an unattended wig, hopped a freight train to Atlantic City and never looked back
• Adult blobfish
• Deflated football
• Fart-infused lump of raw meat
• Melting pig carcass
• Talking comb-over
• Human equivalent of cargo pants that zip away into shorts
• Cheeto-dusted bloviator
• Fuzzy meat wad
• Decomposing ear of corn
• Melting businessman
• Wax museum figure on a very hot day
• Soggy burlap sack
• Bag of toxic sludge
• Impoverished urchin
• Man-sized sebaceous cyst
• Enlarged pee-splattered Sno Cone
• Empty popcorn bag rotting in the sun
• Man-shaped asbestos insulation board
• Hair plug swollen with rancid egg whites
• Inside-out lower intestine
• Dusty barrel of fermented urine
• Usually reasonable burlap sack full of rancid Peeps
• Degloved zoo penis
• Presidential candidate and bargain bin full of yellowing Jean-Claude Van Damme movies
• Hairpiece come to life
• Decomposing pumpkin pie inhabited by vicious albino squirrels
• A dishrag that on closer inspection is alive with maggots
• Lead paint factory explosion
• Candied yam riddled with moldy spider carcasses
• Enraged Gak spill
• The shriveled pinto bean you had to pluck out of your Chipotle burrito basket
• Human-sized infectious microbe
• Poorly-trained circus orangutan
• Lumbering human-like tardigrade
• A tiny piece of dried cat poop that you found in your rug

 

[strummingram]

And, there will be millions of idiots who believe electing an openly and unabashedly Socialist POTUS would be cool and different - just because it would be something new doesn't mean we need to do something stupid that would ruin this nation.

I thought it was already ruined?

 

[tarheel0910]

Since a lot of people on this board are really good at coming up with clever nicknames for Democratic politicians (Maobama, Obummer, Moochelle, Shillary, Col. Socio-Sanders (?), Joe Bin-Biden (?!)), I thought we could get a head start on President Trump's nickname. To get us started is the below list, which is a subset of every nickname for Trump used by a particular blog in the past year. I'm kinda partial to "degloved zoo penis." Favorites?

• An ambitious corn dog that escaped from the concession stand at a rural Alabama fairground, stole an unattended wig, hopped a freight train to Atlantic City and never looked back
• Adult blobfish
• Deflated football
• Fart-infused lump of raw meat
• Melting pig carcass
• Talking comb-over
• Human equivalent of cargo pants that zip away into shorts
• Cheeto-dusted bloviator
• Fuzzy meat wad
• Decomposing ear of corn
• Melting businessman
• Wax museum figure on a very hot day
• Soggy burlap sack
• Bag of toxic sludge
• Impoverished urchin
• Man-sized sebaceous cyst
• Enlarged pee-splattered Sno Cone
• Empty popcorn bag rotting in the sun
• Man-shaped asbestos insulation board
• Hair plug swollen with rancid egg whites
• Inside-out lower intestine
• Dusty barrel of fermented urine
• Usually reasonable burlap sack full of rancid Peeps
• Degloved zoo penis
• Presidential candidate and bargain bin full of yellowing Jean-Claude Van Damme movies
• Hairpiece come to life
• Decomposing pumpkin pie inhabited by vicious albino squirrels
• A dishrag that on closer inspection is alive with maggots
• Lead paint factory explosion
• Candied yam riddled with moldy spider carcasses
• Enraged Gak spill
• The shriveled pinto bean you had to pluck out of your Chipotle burrito basket
• Human-sized infectious microbe
• Poorly-trained circus orangutan
• Lumbering human-like tardigrade
• A tiny piece of dried cat poop that you found in your rug

I don't mean to nitpick, but those aren't really nicknames. They're more of a description. Some of them are pretty funny though.

 

[Heels in Space]

I don't mean to nitpick, but those aren't really nicknames. They're more of a description. Some of them are pretty funny though.

That's a fair point. Plus, "President Decomposing Pumpkin Pie Inhabited by Vicious Albino Squirrels" would get tiresome to type. I would probably have to set up a shortcut.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Since a lot of people on this board are really good at coming up with clever nicknames for Democratic politicians (Maobama, Obummer, Moochelle, Shillary, Col. Socio-Sanders (?), Joe Bin-Biden (?!)), I thought we could get a head start on President Trump's nickname.

Wow. Lol.

I had thought you had some reasonable points in other threads - but after reading this garbage I lost all respect for your political opinion.

 

[tarheel0910]

That's a fair point. Plus, "President Decomposing Pumpkin Pie Inhabited by Vicious Albino Squirrels" would get tiresome to type. I would probably have to set up a shortcut.

Surely there's an emoji for that.

 

[Heels in Space]

Wow. Lol.

I had thought you had some reasonable points in other threads - but after reading this garbage I lost all respect for your political opinion.

Lighten up, Francis. It was just a joke. I don't actually think Donald Trump is a dusty barrel of fermented urine.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Exactly. And the candidate that receives the most of these types of votes will not be Trump. There will be millions of people voting for Hillary strictly because she's a woman and they want a woman president. Just because it'd be something new, doesn't mean we need to do something stupid to make it happen.

We saw what it did for us in 2008.

 

[gunslingerdick]

LOL

 

[gunslingerdick]

I don't mean to nitpick, but those aren't really nicknames. They're more of a description. Some of them are pretty funny though.

Just as long as we're not having to think up nicknames for President Clinton or President Sanders, I don't give a f*ck what anyone calls Trump. Hell, I'll join in.

 

[tarheel0910]

Just as long as we're not having to think up nicknames for President Clinton or President Sanders, I don't give a f*ck what anyone calls Trump. Hell, I'll join in.

Donald Troupee maybe?

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Since a lot of people on this board are really good at coming up with clever nicknames for Democratic politicians (Maobama, Obummer, Moochelle, Shillary, Col. Socio-Sanders (?), Joe Bin-Biden (?!)), I thought we could get a head start on President Trump's nickname. To get us started is the below list, which is a subset of every nickname for Trump used by a particular blog in the past year. I'm kinda partial to "degloved zoo penis." Favorites?

• An ambitious corn dog that escaped from the concession stand at a rural Alabama fairground, stole an unattended wig, hopped a freight train to Atlantic City and never looked back
• Adult blobfish
• Deflated football
• Fart-infused lump of raw meat
• Melting pig carcass
• Talking comb-over
• Human equivalent of cargo pants that zip away into shorts
• Cheeto-dusted bloviator
• Fuzzy meat wad
• Decomposing ear of corn
• Melting businessman
• Wax museum figure on a very hot day
• Soggy burlap sack
• Bag of toxic sludge
• Impoverished urchin
• Man-sized sebaceous cyst
• Enlarged pee-splattered Sno Cone
• Empty popcorn bag rotting in the sun
• Man-shaped asbestos insulation board
• Hair plug swollen with rancid egg whites
• Inside-out lower intestine
• Dusty barrel of fermented urine
• Usually reasonable burlap sack full of rancid Peeps
• Degloved zoo penis
• Presidential candidate and bargain bin full of yellowing Jean-Claude Van Damme movies
• Hairpiece come to life
• Decomposing pumpkin pie inhabited by vicious albino squirrels
• A dishrag that on closer inspection is alive with maggots
• Lead paint factory explosion
• Candied yam riddled with moldy spider carcasses
• Enraged Gak spill
• The shriveled pinto bean you had to pluck out of your Chipotle burrito basket
• Human-sized infectious microbe
• Poorly-trained circus orangutan
• Lumbering human-like tardigrade
• A tiny piece of dried cat poop that you found in your rug

All very funny descriptions, but I would recommend trying to find a nickname that not only rhymes with either Trump's first and/or last name but also describes the person and/or their politics perfectly in the same nickname; also, piggy-backing on famous pop-culture figures like Colonel Sanders is effective, IMO. Fire away, Gridley!

 

[uncboy10]

There is absolute zero chance Sanders could win in a general election. In a general election more people would learn about where he stands on the issues and realize his positions are nuts. I think Hilary could beat Trump. It would be a lot closer than most people think though.

Lol ironically enough, current polling has Bernie as the only candidate who would beat Trump in a general election. But that kinda stuff rarely penetrates the republican fact condom.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-g...m-candidate-capable-of-winning_b_9272400.html

This is exactly the kind of classless garbage I came here expecting to find. Trump is 4 years and some change younger than Bernie, so not only is this classless, its pretty moronic.

All very funny descriptions, but I would recommend trying to find a nickname that not only rhymes with either Trump's first and/or last name but also describes the person and/or their politics perfectly in the same nickname; also, piggy-backing on famous pop-culture figures like Colonel Sanders is effective, IMO. Fire away, Gridley!

Then we have this moron, who thinks that Bernie is "piggy backing on famous pop-culture figures like Colonel sanders"... That is next level stupid, even for you Nukey. His entire campaign has built his name recognition around his FIRST NAME. I've seen a lot of bumper stickers that say Bernie 2016, but not a single one that says Sanders 2016.

And, there will be millions of idiots who believe electing an openly and unabashedly Socialist POTUS would be cool and different - just because it would be something new doesn't mean we need to do something stupid that would ruin this nation.

LOL Nukey, you gotta try harder. Electing a democratic socialist wouldn't be even remotely new for the United States of America. In case you forgot, the last time a democratic socialist got elected (FDR) they had to amend the Constitution to enact term limits after he won his FOURTH ELECTION. Many people still consider FDR to be the greatest president in American history. Not bad for a "openly and unabashedly Socialist POTUS."

 

[UNC71-00]

He trumps most American politicians. I like him for his individualism. He doesn't appear to be a "party" guy. I don't see him accompanied by some group of other manipulated band-wagoners. I even like his enthusiasm and confidence. If he's frightening the establishment GOP (and DNC), that's great. But, when I pause and think "Do I want Donald f***ing Trump as PRESIDENT?", then I come back to reality a little.

So in other words, he hits 80% of your criteria yet you still don't like him.

You are an anarchist.

 

[tarheel0910]

Lol ironically enough, current polling has Bernie as the only candidate who would beat Trump in a general election. But that kinda stuff rarely penetrates the republican fact condom.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-g...m-candidate-capable-of-winning_b_9272400.html

If you think a poll taken today means anything right now, you might be disappointed in a few months. I've never heard the term "republican fact condom." That's funny as hell, seriously. If you read the thread you will notice that I have not endorsed Trump and I am certainly not a republican.

This is exactly the kind of classless garbage I came here expecting to find. Trump is 4 years and some change younger than Bernie, so not only is this classless, its pretty moronic

It's a joke. Get over yourself. I've been making jokes about Trump too.

Then we have this moron

What was that you were saying about classless garbage?

Many people still consider FDR to be the greatest president in American history.

And many do not.

 

[strummingram]

So in other words, he hits 80% of your criteria yet you still don't like him.

You are an anarchist.

He doesn't even meet 50%... barely 30%, I'd say. His rhetoric is pretty scary on a great deal of issues.

 

[tazki]

. Hey boy, Sanders has NO chance in a general election. This country is not that far gone yet.

 

[uncboy10]

. Hey boy, Sanders has NO chance in a general election. This country is not that far gone yet.

This is just kinda sad. You can disagree with him on the issues if you want, but if you seriously believe that, then you have your head in the sand. He would wipe the floor with Trump, Cruz, or Rubio, easily. The GOP is out of touch with the American people. You say Sanders has no chance, yet the majority of the American people support his positions on a wide spectrum of issues.

On the other hand Trump is a joke. He speaks at an elementary school level, with absolutely no substance to anything he says. He is making us look like the laughing stock of the entire developed world, just by even being in the race.

 

[tazki]

This is just kinda sad. You can disagree with him on the issues if you want, but if you seriously believe that, then you have your head in the sand. He would wipe the floor with Trump, Cruz, or Rubio, easily. The GOP is out of touch with the American people. You say Sanders has no chance, yet the majority of the American people support his positions on a wide spectrum of issues.

On the other hand Trump is a joke. He speaks at an elementary school level, with absolutely no substance to anything he says. He is making us look like the laughing stock of the entire developed world, just by even being in the race.

No buddy, your head is in the sand. The old fart is a communist from the get go. And the 'majority" of Americans do not support his positions. Just a bunch of stupid young people that want everything free. NO chance boy.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

This is exactly the kind of classless garbage I came here expecting to find. Trump is 4 years and some change younger than Bernie, so not only is this classless, its pretty moronic.

Lol. Only you could get pissed off at a Jimmy Fallon (who very much leans left) joke about a democrat. And then blame it on the posters of this board and call it classless garbage. Haha

 

[uncboy10]

No buddy, your head is in the sand. The old fart is a communist from the get go. And the 'majority" of Americans do not support his positions. Just a bunch of stupid young people that want everything free. NO chance boy.

The fact that people in the United States of America, in the year 2016, cant tell the difference between a democratic socialist and a communist, is clear evidence that we need tuition free college in this country.

 

[gunslingerdick]

 

[tazki]

Good on Slinger

 

[tarheel0910]

The fact that people in the United States of America, in the year 2016, cant tell the difference between a democratic socialist and a communist, is clear evidence that we need tuition free college in this country.

The fact that you think everyone needs to go to college is clear evidence that you don't know what you are talking about. There are thousands of manufacturing jobs available which don't require a college education. That's what trade schools are for. Employers are begging for people to do that so they can fill jobs. As far as the free part goes, good luck trying to find teachers and school staff that will work for free. There is not enough money to pay them without tuition.

 

[Blue2010]

Late to this thread, but I'll keep it short anyway -- Trump will be the next POTUS.

As bad as the majority seems to assume Trump is, the fact that so many people actually endorse Hillary is more mind-boggling that anything I can muster up to say. This email debacle is a massive, massive no-no -- how in the hell is she even being allowed to run? How many countries would be trying a person like this for treason...but no, let's allow her to lead this nation? W...T...F?

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

"Voting against Donald Trump at this point is really treason to your heritage" - David Duke

 

[Blue2010]

I'm sure you can find loony-bin escapees on both sides, Julez.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

Of course you can. But a David Duke endorsement, come on, that's gold.

 

[Blue2010]

Of course you can. But a David Duke endorsement, come on, that's gold.

LOL. Trump did say that he loves the poorly educated. David was roped right in.

 

[Blue2010]

 

[-COUNTRY-CLUB-JOE-]

I don't know if Trump can win the general. I feel like a lot of people are supporting him out of anger, but he isn't the one the establishment least prefers to work with. He'd deal with them and wouldn't fulfill half of what he's promised which wouldn't be entirely bad for the rest of us.

 

[uncboy10]

The fact that you think everyone needs to go to college is clear evidence that you don't know what you are talking about. There are thousands of manufacturing jobs available which don't require a college education. That's what trade schools are for. Employers are begging for people to do that so they can fill jobs. As far as the free part goes, good luck trying to find teachers and school staff that will work for free. There is not enough money to pay them without tuition.

I never said that everyone needs to go to college. But for anyone that is qualified, it should be at the very least affordable, without having to go tens of thousands of dollars into debt. Coming from a wealthy family should not dictate whether or not someone can go to college without going 100k or more in debt.

Are you really that thick? Good luck finding teachers to work for free? Its called a tax subsidy. There is plenty of money to pay them without tuition, and plenty of other developed nations have proven that. We are one of the only developed countries in the world that does provide tuition free higher education.

As far as slingers predictably simple minded retort, no not even joining the military will get you tuition free college. You have to pay into the GI bill, and it only allows you to take so many credit hours, and in certain majors. Meaning that former and current servicemen and women cannot graduate on the same timeline as other students, and cannot take the classes they need at all in many cases. This is really a sad argument. That you should have to sell out your personal beliefs to go fight for oil in the middle east to go to college. No thanks.

Trump has no chance of being the next POTUS. His racist garbage resonates with the inbred southern white vote, but that's about it. The guy speaks at an elementary school level... But that shouldn't be surprising seeing as his movement is really an anti-intellectual one.

The truly ironic part, is that Trump is the exact thing that most of his supporters hate. Very well tied to the establishment, rich wall street type, and definitely the New Yorker attitude. Oh well, like he said, he loves the poorly educated. And obviously they love him back...