finished that one…that’s the one with every star that needed work at that time…lol how could you forget david schwimmer/ross as bob kardashian?
that was good, but the one i’m on now is from court tv on youtube, oj25
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that was good, but the one i’m on now is from court tv on youtube, oj25
wow, thanks. Here she is. Of course I can't post the fully nude pics.
She looks different, must be because she was younger at the time.
I never found out what they based the script on- as far as source material. Nathan Lane as F.Lee Bailey was another interesting pick. I never knew about the trip to Forsyth Co. NC, either.
We buy things online.
We pay bills online.
We gamble online.
We trade stocks online.
We pay our taxes online.
We verify cryptocurrency online.
Seems like a no-brainer that we should be able to vote online with just as much confidence as we do those other things.
Hardly anybody wants to go this route. Why not?
We pay bills online.
We gamble online.
We trade stocks online.
We pay our taxes online.
We verify cryptocurrency online.
Seems like a no-brainer that we should be able to vote online with just as much confidence as we do those other things.
Hardly anybody wants to go this route. Why not?
here's a nugget you may have missed.
They tried to warn Ron Goldman about playing with Nicole, but he didn't take their advice. "That thing is sweet", they said, "but the juice will kill ya".
yes!!…the only thing i can think of is either jury members or media…if you recall, toobin, dropping pants guy on zoom, was a contributor in the series.
the court tv one is crazy…real footage, photos, jury ousts, etc…i didn’t know until now that four newspapers, one in los angeles, were pro defense/pro oj…they were releasing articles every morning about how bad the state’s case was, their witnesses, etc…there’s a blood theory i just learned that cooked his ass, but i guess the jury ignored it when the fuhrman stuff went down…if the rodney king verdict didn’t happen, oj dies in prison.
and we don’t have an oj thread haha
The riots didn't help, that's for sure.
I do think that Barry Scheck's Innocence Project has definitely helped to exonerate him of some of his culpability. I realize these people are supposed to "jealously defend their client." But, I just don't know how someone could convince themselves that OJ was really innocent.
Great post.
She does ok with governing a very small population quite simple state. But she’s shown on about a dozen different topics and occasions - NFW is she ready for prime time. Sounds like a not particularly bright simpleton - deer in headlights when needing to think fast on her feet. Horrible at it.
@bluetoe right on. There’s a similar thesis, thought pattern, idea philosophy by philosopher G. Michael Hopf:
Weak men make for hard times. Hard times make for strong men. Strong men make for good times. Good times make for soft men.
IMO you can replace soft men with Dems/libs/ woke, alphabet mafia.
And replace strong men with conservative / libertarian men who don’t buy - fully reject wokeness and the alphabet BS. DEI ESG BLM LGBTQIA
Good assessment. Pretty sure he had full season or lifetime pass to Epstein’s Fantasy Island too FWOW.
“Here’s a picture of someone, who was younger at the time we took it”.wow, thanks. Here she is. Of course I can't post the fully nude pics.
She looks different, must be because she was younger at the time.
Fun fact: everyone in any pic was younger)than now) at the time the pic was taken 🤓😂
ha ha but you're reading it wrong. That's a given that she's younger, my point not being that she looks younger, but that being younger is why she looks different...you know, as opposed to some other reason for her looking different.
I know. I think the “everyone’s younger in pics” is a sort of funny Steven Wright sort of observation
Wait, what? I believe you have that backwards, Mr. Blunder. The roller coaster ride, at least recently, goes more like:
George W. H. Bush leaves Bill Clinton an economic mess
Bill Clinton leaves George H. Bush an absolute windfall
George H. Bush leaves Barack Obama an economic mess
Barack Obama leaves Donald Trump a flourishing economy
Trump leaves Joe Biden . . . well, you guessed it, an economic mess
Notice anything surprising about the pattern?
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I stopped at Bill Clinton and skipped to Biden, because the 'windfall' was the doing of republicans who forced Clinton's hand who then gutted our system of security measures that led to 9/11; and because anyone who thinks that Trump created any mess and that Biden has nothing to do with the mess on his hands, is not to be taken seriously.. YOU are not to be taken seriously. But we knew that.
My contention stands unscathed.
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I expected your spin. It's not at all surprising that you didn't try to "substantiate" that hogwash you posted yesterday. Luckily I went ahead and did the legwork for you. Let's take a look at recent history:
Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush R
- Midterm recession for Bush with unemployment peaking at 7.8% in June 1992.
- That was following the 10.8 percent joblessness in 1982 and the Reagan recession, and tripling of the national debt in eight years under Reaganomics.
- Under Bush, America witnessed the most significant financial collapse since the Great Depression.
- Result: Reelected for second term (Reagan), one term and done (Bush).
👎
Bill Clinton D
- Turned deficits into surpluses and created the conditions for strong future growth.
- He inherited 7.5% unemployment and through a strengthening economy 23 million new jobs were added under Clinton compared to just 2 million under Bush.
- President Clinton presided over one of the most impressive economic turnarounds in modern history.
- By the end of his two terms, 22.7 million new jobs had been created, unemployment dropped to a 30-year low, and gross domestic product grew by 35% overall through the longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history.
- Average hourly wages increased by 6 percent after accounting for inflation, and median household income grew by 14 percent, the highest increase for a two-term president.
- Clinton reduced the national debt by $223 billion and left the largest on-budget surplus since LBJ upon leaving office.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👍
George W. Bush R
- Known as the "lost decade," Bush's two terms fueled the housing and finance bubble in 2008.
- Gave hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the wealthy, focusing on their needs while neglecting the stagnant economy of the majority of Americans.
- He put the burden of fiscal imbalance on future generations.
- He diverted billions of dollars to two foreign wars -- one of which was out of necessity but one of which was created under false pretenses -- when we could have invested that money here in America.
- Bush's lasting legacy includes two recessions, in 2001 and the Great Recession of 2007–2009.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👎
Barack Obama D
- Avoided another Great Depression in the winter of 2009 soon after taking office.
- Longest expansion of job growth on record through 2017 dating back to 1939.
- The U.S. economy was shrinking when President Obama took office in the first quarter of 2009. By the end of his presidency, the economy was growing at about 2% in inflation-adjusted terms.
- President Obama’s second-term economic growth per person was higher than the growth of several previous presidents, specifically President George W. Bush in both his terms, President George H.W. Bush in his term, Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford in their combined term, President Nixon in his first term, and President Dwight D. Eisenhower in his second term.
- The economy lost close to 800,000 jobs in January 2009, when President Obama took office. The job market started to expand by early 2010 and consistently added jobs from October 2010 to January 2017, when President Obama left office.
- The typical weekly pay of U.S. workers reached its highest level on record, dating back to 1979, at the end of 2016.
- Household debt fell relative to after-tax income during both of President Obama’s terms. Total debt amounted to 105.9 percent of after-tax income, the lowest level since mid-2002.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👍
Donald Trump R
- Inherited a solid economy after years of improvements, with the economy and the labor market headed in the right direction on all key economic indicators.
- Paychecks grew faster than inflation with average weekly earnings up 8.7% after inflation.
- After-tax corporate profits went up and the stock market set new records.
- The economy lost 2.9 million jobs and the unemployment rate increased by 1.6% to 6.3%.
- The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.
- The number of Americans without health insurance rose by 3 million.
- The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
- Handgun production rose 12.5% in 2020 compared to 2016, setting a new record.
- The murder rate in 2020 rose to the highest level since 1997.
- Trump mismanaged the pandemic crisis, resulting in the economy he inherited and continued building upon to completely collapse.
- Result: One term and done.
👎
Joe Biden D
- Despite inheriting an economy struggling with 10 million jobless and millions more out of the workforce., the U.S. economy improved more during President Joe Biden’s first year in office than in the first 12 months of any other president in the past 50 years.
- Also inherited a Federal debt the highest since World War II.
- Avoided a recession most critics predicted would occur.
- Gross domestic product growth in 2021 reached 5.7%—the highest annual growth since 1984—after rebounding from a decrease of 3.4% in 2020.
- The U.S. continues to lead among its peer countries in its pandemic recovery, and the rate of annual growth surpasses both the Federal Reserve’s projection and the Congressional Budget Office’s projection regularly.
- Unemployment reached its lowest level since 1969 under Biden, and the US gained a record 7.27 million new jobs in 2021, fueled by a recovery in the labor market as vaccines became available and the country opened up. Job creation has remained strong in the years since with 2.7 million jobs added in 2023.
- While stocks have seesawed over the course of the Biden Administration, the S&P 500 recently hit all-time highs.
Annualized change in unemployment rate over each presidency from Truman to Biden, ordered from best-performing to worst-performing economic performance. Democrats are in blue, Republicans are in red.
Sources:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/its-the-economy-stupid-and-the-bad-luck-of-george-h-w-bush/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/power-of-progressive-economics-the-clinton-years/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#:~:text=Bush administration was characterized by,the Great Recession that followed
Biden goes into 2024 with the economy getting stronger, but voters feel horrible about it
President Joe Biden goes into next year’s election with a vexing challenge: Just as the U.S. economy is getting stronger, people are still feeling horrible about it.
apnews.com
U.S. economic performance by presidential party - Wikipedia
AGAIN, I go no further than Bill Clinton. Clinton was politically forced by republicans to reign in spending and produce a viable budget (this was when Newt Gingrich and republicans had some cojones). In doing so, Clinton made cuts in the military rather than entitlements, and also carved into our security systems. As a result we got 9/11, which of course was gifted to Bush who had to deal with those consequences. Credit for the economy, which should have been credited to those republicans, was of course taken by the dems just because Clinton was in office. ADDITIONALLY, Clinton gifted US with not just 9/11 but a financial crisis to beat all financial crises. So again, I inform you that the economy tends to crash and burn with the dems and be rescued by the republicans.
I'm only stopping there because I have no intention of wasting time addressing the rest of your 'spin'. The internet has all the information anyone needs to show that you as usual are FOS (not spin). Like crediting obama with rescuing the economy? The economy was recovering globally anyway, and obama began the trend toward obscene amounts of debt that continue to this day, with Biden adding trillions just as a budget.
LMAO at you calling my offering spin. Spin is all you do, to put it more politely than I usually do, and spin is all you provide here. Ho hum.
Shooting holes in your presentation is too easy. My contention still remains unscathed.
I'm only stopping there because I have no intention of wasting time addressing the rest of your 'spin'. The internet has all the information anyone needs to show that you as usual are FOS (not spin). Like crediting obama with rescuing the economy? The economy was recovering globally anyway, and obama began the trend toward obscene amounts of debt that continue to this day, with Biden adding trillions just as a budget.
LMAO at you calling my offering spin. Spin is all you do, to put it more politely than I usually do, and spin is all you provide here. Ho hum.
Shooting holes in your presentation is too easy. My contention still remains unscathed.
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I expected your spin. It's not at all surprising that you didn't try to "substantiate" that hogwash you posted yesterday. Luckily I went ahead and did the legwork for you. Let's take a look at recent history:
Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush R
- Midterm recession for Bush with unemployment peaking at 7.8% in June 1992.
- That was following the 10.8 percent joblessness in 1982 and the Reagan recession, and tripling of the national debt in eight years under Reaganomics.
- Under Bush, America witnessed the most significant financial collapse since the Great Depression.
- Result: Reelected for second term (Reagan), one term and done (Bush).
👎
Bill Clinton D
- Turned deficits into surpluses and created the conditions for strong future growth.
- He inherited 7.5% unemployment and through a strengthening economy 23 million new jobs were added under Clinton compared to just 2 million under Bush.
- President Clinton presided over one of the most impressive economic turnarounds in modern history.
- By the end of his two terms, 22.7 million new jobs had been created, unemployment dropped to a 30-year low, and gross domestic product grew by 35% overall through the longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history.
- Average hourly wages increased by 6 percent after accounting for inflation, and median household income grew by 14 percent, the highest increase for a two-term president.
- Clinton reduced the national debt by $223 billion and left the largest on-budget surplus since LBJ upon leaving office.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👍
George W. Bush R
- Known as the "lost decade," Bush's two terms fueled the housing and finance bubble in 2008.
- Gave hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the wealthy, focusing on their needs while neglecting the stagnant economy of the majority of Americans.
- He put the burden of fiscal imbalance on future generations.
- He diverted billions of dollars to two foreign wars -- one of which was out of necessity but one of which was created under false pretenses -- when we could have invested that money here in America.
- Bush's lasting legacy includes two recessions, in 2001 and the Great Recession of 2007–2009.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👎
Barack Obama D
- Avoided another Great Depression in the winter of 2009 soon after taking office.
- Longest expansion of job growth on record through 2017 dating back to 1939.
- The U.S. economy was shrinking when President Obama took office in the first quarter of 2009. By the end of his presidency, the economy was growing at about 2% in inflation-adjusted terms.
- President Obama’s second-term economic growth per person was higher than the growth of several previous presidents, specifically President George W. Bush in both his terms, President George H.W. Bush in his term, Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford in their combined term, President Nixon in his first term, and President Dwight D. Eisenhower in his second term.
- The economy lost close to 800,000 jobs in January 2009, when President Obama took office. The job market started to expand by early 2010 and consistently added jobs from October 2010 to January 2017, when President Obama left office.
- The typical weekly pay of U.S. workers reached its highest level on record, dating back to 1979, at the end of 2016.
- Household debt fell relative to after-tax income during both of President Obama’s terms. Total debt amounted to 105.9 percent of after-tax income, the lowest level since mid-2002.
- Result: Reelected for second term.
👍
Donald Trump R
- Inherited a solid economy after years of improvements, with the economy and the labor market headed in the right direction on all key economic indicators.
- Paychecks grew faster than inflation with average weekly earnings up 8.7% after inflation.
- After-tax corporate profits went up and the stock market set new records.
- The economy lost 2.9 million jobs and the unemployment rate increased by 1.6% to 6.3%.
- The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.
- The number of Americans without health insurance rose by 3 million.
- The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
- Handgun production rose 12.5% in 2020 compared to 2016, setting a new record.
- The murder rate in 2020 rose to the highest level since 1997.
- Trump mismanaged the pandemic crisis, resulting in the economy he inherited and continued building upon to completely collapse.
- Result: One term and done.
👎
Joe Biden D
- Despite inheriting an economy struggling with 10 million jobless and millions more out of the workforce., the U.S. economy improved more during President Joe Biden’s first year in office than in the first 12 months of any other president in the past 50 years.
- Also inherited a Federal debt the highest since World War II.
- Avoided a recession most critics predicted would occur.
- Gross domestic product growth in 2021 reached 5.7%—the highest annual growth since 1984—after rebounding from a decrease of 3.4% in 2020.
- The U.S. continues to lead among its peer countries in its pandemic recovery, and the rate of annual growth surpasses both the Federal Reserve’s projection and the Congressional Budget Office’s projection regularly.
- Unemployment reached its lowest level since 1969 under Biden, and the US gained a record 7.27 million new jobs in 2021, fueled by a recovery in the labor market as vaccines became available and the country opened up. Job creation has remained strong in the years since with 2.7 million jobs added in 2023.
- While stocks have seesawed over the course of the Biden Administration, the S&P 500 recently hit all-time highs.
Annualized change in unemployment rate over each presidency from Truman to Biden, ordered from best-performing to worst-performing economic performance. Democrats are in blue, Republicans are in red.
Sources:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/economy/its-the-economy-stupid-and-the-bad-luck-of-george-h-w-bush/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/power-of-progressive-economics-the-clinton-years/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#:~:text=Bush administration was characterized by,the Great Recession that followed
Biden goes into 2024 with the economy getting stronger, but voters feel horrible about it
President Joe Biden goes into next year’s election with a vexing challenge: Just as the U.S. economy is getting stronger, people are still feeling horrible about it.U.S. economic performance by presidential party - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Just for this stupidity alone:
They walk among us. It's almost like Jill letting Joe run again. Sometimes, families really need to intervene.
I've worked with some very poor populations in a prior career - people without reliable transportation, who are paycheck-to-paycheck, who have inflexible "jobs", whose homes and belongings are transient, etc. Everything is a burden and expensive for those types of people, every hurdle or difficulty is magnified. Generally i agree with your points, but if we're going to require an ID so they can partake in their constitutional right, then it needs to be easily obtained.
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And each of those things have been hacked and will be hacked again, and again. I work in the software/IT industry. In a prior role i was very involved with security related bugs and consulting customers on how to assess specific CVE, implement fixes/remediations.
No hacking stories would surprise me. I'd actually be shocked if almost everything digital/electronic didn't have some known accidental or intentional vulnerability.
Software/infrastructure is only as secure as the intelligence/ability of the people managing it, and many of the customers i worked with were frighteningly incapable. Plus competent people make mistakes. Plus open-source stuff is everywhere due to cost. Finally there are rogue actors everywhere.
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@What Would Jesus Do? sorry for the tl;dr but regarding rogue actors read
arstechnica.com
Basically, this 'open-source developer person' (likely a state agency) spent yrs forging an identity that could be trusted enough to allow him to plant a backdoor in linux (which is commonly used server OS) which resulted in "Anyone in possession of a predetermined encryption key could stash any code of their choice in an SSH login certificate, upload it, and execute it on the backdoored device. No one has actually seen code uploaded, so it's not known what code the attacker planned to run. In theory, the code could allow for just about anything, including stealing encryption keys or installing malware."
^to put that last sentence more simply, bad guys would have root access to any infected machine that is exposing ssh (and network accessible) - (and many do, since ssh is how they're remotely administered).
The crazy part of the story is how it happened, how it unfolded. The code he was "touching" is just compression software (like zip or tar) which sounds pretty benign, you'd think it couldn't impact something like sshd..... so how he got as far as manipulating sshd is brilliant.
What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world
Malicious updates made to a ubiquitous tool were a few weeks away from going mainstream.
Basically, this 'open-source developer person' (likely a state agency) spent yrs forging an identity that could be trusted enough to allow him to plant a backdoor in linux (which is commonly used server OS) which resulted in "Anyone in possession of a predetermined encryption key could stash any code of their choice in an SSH login certificate, upload it, and execute it on the backdoored device. No one has actually seen code uploaded, so it's not known what code the attacker planned to run. In theory, the code could allow for just about anything, including stealing encryption keys or installing malware."
^to put that last sentence more simply, bad guys would have root access to any infected machine that is exposing ssh (and network accessible) - (and many do, since ssh is how they're remotely administered).
The crazy part of the story is how it happened, how it unfolded. The code he was "touching" is just compression software (like zip or tar) which sounds pretty benign, you'd think it couldn't impact something like sshd..... so how he got as far as manipulating sshd is brilliant.
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A whopping 25 seconds in, besides a multitude of other acceptable forms, get your free voter ID from your local board of elections. It's animated and narrated, so even the "elderly" and "minorities" you claim to be so woefully inept and disadvantaged should be able to prepare for November.
Couldn't agree more. This would be even dumber than what we've done up to this point. You want an election to manipulated and influenced by Russia/China/anyone else, put it online. And talk about putting people at a disadvantage, people have to have the internet and something with which to access it to vote? And we think it would be secure? It's 2024 and people still use "password" for their password.
Just as an aside to any impact of that on voting, it's only anecdotal, but I seem to be meeting a bunch more of those you describe since Covid and our great recovery.
Then you don't understand "paper audits" and you should STFU.
What does it say regarding the points i mentioned above regarding hours of operation and people without transpo that live far from the county BOE, DMV and passport agency?
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We aren't talking about protecting a list of emails in some lame company database.
If we can use data mining and blockchain tech to secure bitcoin transactions and ownership, surely that same or similar tech will secure voter IDs and votes. If not, instead of dismissing this approach, figure out how to make it even more secure.
Our current electoral process seems a lot worse.
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