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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

It's all rhetorical scenery anyway. The whole thing is built, and run, and exploited on the basis of RICH and POOR. Always has been, always will be. Occasionally, when the inhumanity stinks SO MUCH that even the wealthy are questioning the immorality, you see just enough of a shift to allow the ruling class a clear conscience.

The EC doesn't exist within the United States, other than that single office! No other executive office is forced to run that gauntlet. If it worked so well for President, why not governors? Some counties in every state are low-populated, very little industry, no wealth, and mostly uneducated populations (Poor People). Maybe it SHOULD have been put into place in each state as well. Too late now.

And, ultimately, with the tribal mentality in people, and especially America... now... the will to lie, cheat and steal is just too great. Americans have had it too good for too long. They're literally, and fervently, creating its demise from within.

This is a very good EC explanation... It encourages and endorses it... not to mention the presence of intelligent conversation in the comments. But, it's also clear that it doesn't even exist in the original form.
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this was good and there is a wealth of like information out there for anyone interested. Sure it has been changed over time just like anything else, but it still is fundamentally based on the power of sovereign States to hold their own against each other rather than the majority. That's why the States provided electors.

The question about an EC working within States is interesting but irrelevant, IMO. Counties are generally not assigned sovereignty and given political space from each other. They are pretty much just independent units of administration but not independent beyond that. The notion of sovereignty connotes separation without but not within. If Hawaii enacts a law that says women can go topless any place and time that they care to, then that's the law in Hawaii but not in Oklahoma. Contrarily, each county tends to have it's own sheriff but that sheriff enforces the same law that the next county's sheriff does.

And that brings up what I said about doing away with the vestiges of sovereignty, now that that idea has been largely obliterated. How often do you hear about some murder case going unsolved because the murder was committed in one jurisdiction but the perp lived in a different one, and the two LE agencies just didn't communicate well., It would tend to be more efficient and more successful if one LE agency handled both. That kind of thing, and there are many more areas that this applies to. So that sort of helps your argument but it also helps illustrate why it's a bad idea. An independent LE agency can develop better procedures and those procedures can then be adopted by other agencies, whereas all LE operating under one umbrella will tend to become slaves to the blanket operation in place, with personal advancement becoming political instead of merit-based.

If you dig deeper, I think it really comes down to encouraging and supporting individuality over the mass majority. 'merica.


eta; I re-read my post and I think it gives you too little credit for the video you provided. The points in it are well taken by me.

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Said it before, I woul;d like to see Seth run Point for those 8-10 minutes EC is on the bench, then pick up wing minutes along the way.
LOL, well ya know how I feel about Seth so I definitely would love to see Seth run the point when Cadeau takes a seat, frankly, I think I would prefer Drake at the point to RJ, have 4 seasons of reasons why.

This season, the thing I will be looking harder at than maybe anything else is the evolution of our head coach. He now has 3 full seasons under his belt, I now need to see what consistent approach defines Hubert as a head coach. I have seen a LOT of tinkering, let's try this or that, seen a lot of lip service to I want us to do this or that, have not seen the consistency of approach that I need to see. It is year 4 now, the time to start showing this is how a Hubert Davis team plays.

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

It's rich that you didn't mention the fact that he stood silent because 2 people fainted so they played music to keep the crowd calm. You liberals will stoop to any level to lie. You'd rather climb Mt. Everest to lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.

C'mon dude, you can't be this gullible. He wanted to listen to YMCA at the end of his "townhall" to calm the cultists. LMFAO. Good grief.

Isaiah Campbell

Has anyone seen Isaiah Campbell play? His video does not scream 4-/5-star level player but he is ranked #37 by TOS and Top 100 by Rivals. His video looks 3-star to me and you see an obvious hitch and slow get-off which makes him perfect for a UNC DLineman (sorry I'm negative rt now). I could see getting this guy and he join the line of underperformers.

I know guys downplay highlight clips but they are also highlight clips. Certain things should stick out in the clips. Rucker is a prime example...he plays to the same level or higher that I saw in his highlight clips. Evans played the same as his highlight clips as well. Our DTs...I have no clue and we have all seen the flashes of ability like a clip but no consistency.

Would I take Campbell...hell yeah. But is a lot of that tied to his ranking and the pros that gave him that ranking?...hell yeah.
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Some quck stuff (Blue-White)...

Said it before, I woul;d like to see Seth run Point for those 8-10 minutes EC is on the bench, then pick up wing minutes along the way.
Yeah. When RJ went out I was thinking it was a real shame Seth wasn't on his team. I would have liked to see Seth handle the point (intentionally).

Most of the time I don't think Seth is in PG mode because that's not what Coach has him in there for. So it's hard for a guy at my level to judge how good he actually is in that role.

Can you shed some light on that?

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

how many self-governing societies are based on a union of separate, sovereign states as we are? The Civil War ended the separation and sovereignty that originally existed, but many considerations that were fundamentally valid did not. And there is the European Union, and before that was the Soviet Union, and there are other states that have joined cooperatively.

It would be interesting to know, for example, what the E.U. does in this regard. Oh, that's right, they allow a member to withdraw at will the way we were supposed to be able to. That kind of smacks of what is it? Oh yeah, freedom.

Think of laws that apply to corporations. The size of the corporation makes no difference, the law applies equally and independently to each because they are separate entities. A very large corp. gets no break relative to a small company (at least on paper). Accordingly, and by the same logic, one State should hold no sway over another

And if we do away with the electoral college and elect with popular votes, shouldn't we also do away with the Senate, which affords equal representation to each State?

I have pointed out that sometimes it might be helpful to do away with the vestiges of being an actual union that tend to get in the way of conducting efficient and fair application of the things that are common to us all. But then I'm reminded that a Senator from Hawaii or Rhode Island might cast the vote that keeps some idiot law that caters to the populations of New York or California at the expense of the population of Nebraska or Wyoming from coming into being.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.
It's all rhetorical scenery anyway. The whole thing is built, and run, and exploited on the basis of RICH and POOR. Always has been, always will be. Occasionally, when the inhumanity stinks SO MUCH that even the wealthy are questioning the immorality, you see just enough of a shift to allow the ruling class a clear conscience.

The EC doesn't exist within the United States, other than that single office! No other executive office is forced to run that gauntlet. If it worked so well for President, why not governors? Some counties in every state are low-populated, very little industry, no wealth, and mostly uneducated populations (Poor People). Maybe it SHOULD have been put into place in each state as well. Too late now.

And, ultimately, with the tribal mentality in people, and especially America... now... the will to lie, cheat and steal is just too great. Americans have had it too good for too long. They're literally, and fervently, creating its demise from within.

This is a very good EC explanation... It encourages and endorses it... not to mention the presence of intelligent conversation in the comments. But, it's also clear that it doesn't even exist in the original form.
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Some quck stuff (Blue-White)...

I’d imagine that when EC goes out RJ will get his pg mins, since that’s what happened last year when EC struggled with called fouls and shooting. If that happens again, that opens up more minutes for the other guards. Maybe not ideal but RJ is our second best option at pg imo. A different kind of course but still an pg. Especially if the others coming in can shoot it from deep, and, A BIG and, the others can trust them to shoot it. Who knows, we might see a new leaf turned over from Seth but I think he’s a two also.
The more time RJ spends off-ball (other than schemed iso mismatches) the better.

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

Speaking of which, why is she out campaigning instead of getting the 25th Amendment invoked?
If Biden were making bad or reckless decisions I would agree. No reason to believe that's the case.

Meanwhile, have you heard Trump talk?

Clearly the main flaw in the 25th amendment is that we have to wait for someone to be in office before it can be invoked.
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