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I will respectfully disagree on a couple of Clint's guesses:

I hesitate to call Clint's thoughts "guesses". It kinda downplays what a great job he does at learning inside intel and making predictions on that intel. In some cases it's a guess (Seventh) but in most cases the families are open enough to Clint and Rob where they can make very educated predictions.
 
I hesitate to call Clint's thoughts "guesses". It kinda downplays what a great job he does at learning inside intel and making predictions on that intel. In some cases it's a guess (Seventh) but in most cases the families are open enough to Clint and Rob where they can make very educated predictions.
He specifically used the term "guess" and that's exactly what I'm referring to.
 
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I hesitate to call Clint's thoughts "guesses". It kinda downplays what a great job he does at learning inside intel and making predictions on that intel. In some cases it's a guess (Seventh) but in most cases the families are open enough to Clint and Rob where they can make very educated predictions.

But guesses are exactly what they are, no dis-respect toward Clint or anyone else but when you are dealing with what a 17-18yr old kid is going to do it is always a guess until it is done. It is not a prediction, Clint or no one else looks in to their crystal ball to see the future, if they could they would win the lotto every time there is a drawing. Educated guesses for sure but don't get carried away with calling something a prediction that isn't, call it what it is, an educated guess.

I think and would hope that Clint would be the first to tell you that it is not an exact science, that things change and at times rapidly. Just because someone does not agree with what Clints on a kid does not make that person wrong, it simply means one looks at something differently than another. Clint has great sources and works them hard for information but at times others can glean some information that Clint is not aware of.

To many seem so quick to toss out any information not gleaned from someone that has an expert tag associated with them. I take in information from all corners, I don't discount anything, this isn't a winners & losers type of thing, it is nothing but information sharing and you pick and chose what you feel is solid and what is not.
 
But guesses are exactly what they are, no dis-respect toward Clint or anyone else but when you are dealing with what a 17-18yr old kid is going to do it is always a guess until it is done. It is not a prediction, Clint or no one else looks in to their crystal ball to see the future, if they could they would win the lotto every time there is a drawing. Educated guesses for sure but don't get carried away with calling something a prediction that isn't, call it what it is, an educated guess.

I think and would hope that Clint would be the first to tell you that it is not an exact science, that things change and at times rapidly. Just because someone does not agree with what Clints on a kid does not make that person wrong, it simply means one looks at something differently than another. Clint has great sources and works them hard for information but at times others can glean some information that Clint is not aware of.

To many seem so quick to toss out any information not gleaned from someone that has an expert tag associated with them. I take in information from all corners, I don't discount anything, this isn't a winners & losers type of thing, it is nothing but information sharing and you pick and chose what you feel is solid and what is not.

As I said, in some cases they are guesses because parents keep it close to the chest.

In a lot of other cases, they are not guesses. Just ask him about Huffman. How do you think he knows it's just a matter of time before he commits? Because of his relationship with Clifton. You and I and every other poster here don't have that relationship.

So I'll say it again, in most cases, calling his predictions "guesses" is doing him a disservice.
 
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Look, we all appreciate Clint and his recruiting information. And he has access to some sources that the average fan doesn't. But recruiting is a volatile process and projecting where kids will matriculate is quite subjective. Ergo, when Clint says "if I were to guess", my belief is that it is his best educated guess at this point in time.

IOW, I take all recruiting info with a big grain of salt. And I'd bet Clint would advise all fans to do the same thing.
 
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As I said, in some cases they are guesses because parents keep it close to the chest.

In a lot of other cases, they are not guesses. Just ask him about Huffman. How do you think he knows it's just a matter of time before he commits? Because of his relationship with Clifton. You and I and every other poster here don't have that relationship.

So I'll say it again, in most cases, calling his predictions "guesses" is doing him a disservice.

Dadika, by all means believe what ever you want, if you need to believe that Clint is the absolute authority and is never wrong, go for it. I am not being critical of Clint in any fashion, he is a great source for info, but he is not the ONLY source for me.Not sure I understand why that is so hard to accept?
 
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Look, we all appreciate Clint and his recruiting information. And he has access to some sources that the average fan doesn't. But recruiting is a volatile process and projecting where kids will matriculate is quite subjective. Ergo, when Clint says "if I were to guess", me belief is that it is his best educated guess at this point in time.

IOW, I take all recruiting info with a big grain of salt. And I'd bet Clint would advise all fans to do the same thing.

That is exactly what I have been saying archer but I actually have another poster trying to argue that what Clint says is a prediction and not an educated guess? I want Clint to hustle me some lotto numbers quick so I can get in this weeks drawing! As Clint himself said, it is a guess, it has to be when you are dealing with these kids.
 
Maybe so, but he was indeed guessing and said so without qualification. You're barkin' up the wrong tree here.

What he said about Huffman was NOT a guess, but the stuff about PJ most certainly was.,
Best educated guess Gary, do you think Huffman will commit soon? And what effect, if any, do you think that will have on a guy like Stokes, whom I want at UNC very badly?
 
Maybe so, but he was indeed guessing and said so without qualification. You're barkin' up the wrong tree here.

What he said about Huffman was NOT a guess, but the stuff about PJ most certainly was.,

Yeah, hopefully on from discussing the difference between a guess and a prediction, I STRONGLY believe the contenders, the teams really in it for PJ are UNC, Arizona, and UNLV. PJs dad likes Roy, brought PJ on an un-expected un-official visit that was great for all, and wide open vacancy at the 4 for a blue blood and very talented 4 marriage. I LOVE where we sit now for the kid.

Arizona scares me, when you consider they have Markennan and Adkins but will either of them be back to team up with Ayton? If Markennan leaves after 1 season they to can point to wide open PT at the 4 and have proximity on their side. UNLV, well dad at Findley Prep across town, nuff said.
 
Best educated guess Gary, do you think Huffman will commit soon? And what effect, if any, do you think that will have on a guy like Stokes, whom I want at UNC very badly?

I not gary but IMO within a couple weeks after Late Night with Roy.
 
Best educated guess Gary, do you think Huffman will commit soon? And what effect, if any, do you think that will have on a guy like Stokes, whom I want at UNC very badly?
See my response two posts down, or maybe in another thread. From what Clint said, it had the sound of Roy asking Huffman to hold off... at least that's the vibe I got. He said it was a matter of "when" for Huffman.
 
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Dadika, by all means believe what ever you want, if you need to believe that Clint is the absolute authority and is never wrong, go for it. I am not being critical of Clint in any fashion, he is a great source for info, but he is not the ONLY source for me.Not sure I understand why that is so hard to accept?

When did I ever say he is the absolute authority and never wrong? Seriously. Find me the post.

Jesus, read what people write.
 
When did I ever say he is the absolute authority and never wrong? Seriously. Find me the post.

Jesus, read what people write.

"I hesitate to call Clint's thoughts "guesses". It kinda downplays what a great job he does at learning inside intel and making predictions on that intel. In some cases it's a guess (Seventh) but in most cases the families are open enough to Clint and Rob where they can make very educated predictions."

In some case, you offer as in the case with 7th it is a guess but in MOST cases it is something else? Check me, I am reading your words, you call it "very educated predictions." The proper term is a educated guess, that is ALL I have been trying to say and I have no idea why it is an argument. I have said NOTHING at all disrespectful toward Cling in intent or word.
 
Yeah, hopefully on from discussing the difference between a guess and a prediction, I STRONGLY believe the contenders, the teams really in it for PJ are UNC, Arizona, and UNLV.

UNLV, well dad at Findley Prep across town, nuff said.

UNLV not part of the in home visits for PJ this past weekend. You still think the real contenders are those 3?

This is why we look to our experts for guidance and not posters.
 
UNLV not part of the in home visits for PJ this past weekend. You still think the real contenders are those 3?

This is why we look to our experts for guidance and not posters.

Yes I do, how many of those in home visits are from schools located across town from where the kid's dad works?
 
I sense a good deal of unnecessary angst in this thread! Maybe don't respond directly to each other and you can actually make cogent points.

I am feeling much better about our Big situation going forward. Love to get info from all sources and sort it in my own head. I always skew toward the positive, but I just can't get over the bad juju with Knox. I hope I'm surprised on his front, but if either PJ and 2 of Stokes, Huffman, or Brooks commit-Color me thrilled!
 
The length of time he was listed as a puke and UK lean almost to the point of locks to either one. I have a little trouble ignoring the the taint of slime-ade or rodent-ade drinkers.

Hopefully the reporters got it all wrong and he is the intelligent free thinker he appears to be in interviews.
 
The length of time he was listed as a puke and UK lean almost to the point of locks to either one. I have a little trouble ignoring the the taint of slime-ade or rodent-ade drinkers.

Hopefully the reporters got it all wrong and he is the intelligent free thinker he appears to be in interviews.

Listed where?
 
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