AJ: No More Surprises, We Know Who The Heels Truly Are
After 31 games, there is nothing new to learn about North Carolina, as the Tar Heels have shown who they are all season.
AJ: No More Surprises, We Know Who The Heels Truly Are
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Wow. Not being a paying member at the moment, I can only read the first 2 paragraphs, but those 2 paragraphs are pretty devastating.
He pretty much called a turd a turd and finally said what almost everyone on this forum has been saying for the last 2-3 months.
We have really known what they are for the past three years. One good run and lightning in a bottle doesn’t change anything. No basketball IQ and no heart at the end of a game. Smacked in the mouth and they crumble
It's really interesting because that "lightning in a bottle" was pretty damned significant. It amazes me how quickly people just forget and expect a new gratification.
I realize most people are down in the dumps, now. That's understandable. But... let's just say that this season's poor performance was the cost of last season's success. It's obviously not an actual trade-off, but big deal. Would you still make the deal? I know I would. I would do it for several years of this. That run brought memories that most schools would give anything to have experienced just once. Teams that win 5 NCAAT games in a row, and get to the final game, are not flukes. I just don't believe that.
There is NOTHING that can take away sending Coach K home TWICE. The way UNC dispatched and humiliated the dookies last year is like Agent Orange. It has splattered everywhere, for perpetuity. In fact, I don't think there's any way that Jon Scheyer or 16 Jon Scheyer's can do anything to match those two losses. Sweeping UNC in a crappy overall year for both teams and the conference is hardly a beginning of a pimple on the butt of what UNC handed the dookies last season.
UNC basketball fans are some of the most spoiled and ungrateful fans I've ever seen... and, I'm a UNC fan!
Can't argue with one word of that entire post. The send off(s) given to K was epic and will forever be one of my favorite UNC memories and as UNC fans we always expect great things, especially from men's bball teams. I guess the most disappointing thing about this season was with all the experience there was absolutely zero leadership, and a team that was loaded with seasoned players played incredibly soft, wilted consistently under pressure and with few exceptions was completely effortless 90+% of the time and that's the most memorable take away I will have for the 22-23 "squad", have yet to see a team play this year.
Exactly. It almost feels like this season is the basketball gods getting theirs, as payback for those 2 epic dookie take-downs. If so, it was still worth it.
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As disappointing as this season has been, sending Krazywhiskey out that way was worth it.
To me, and to a lot of people, beating the dookies in Cameron on K's final home game was all that was needed last season. I remember feeling more satisfied with that win than I did when they won the NCAA in 2017!!! It was exhilarating! K and the Brotherhood had their party ruined and they set it up to be ruined! UNC spiked the ball in their face in a game that is arguably the most "important" game in the history of the rivalry.
And, THEN... beat them in the ONLY NCAAT game they've ever played in history, and it was a Final Four game, and sent K home for LIFE on a loss. And, who ever expected HD, in his first season, to come anywhere close to that? It can't even be quantified how deep that wound was inflicted. I don't see how they could ever get even with the Heels for that... ever. I mean, maybe if they one day met in the NCAA in the Championship game... MAYBE. But, what's the likelihood of that?
UNC fans expect WAY too much from a bunch of kids throwing a ball around. And, the truth is, they actually GET a whole helluva lot from those kids. This is like the weather... we have no control over it. Enjoy the sun when it's shining!
Yeah .. but all things considered he has to tread a bit lightly to keep a healthy open working relationship with the players. But at some point in time the entire UNC fan base will require some objective journalistic honesty and to stop putting sugar and on chit.
The reality of sports is that when a coach fails to get the team able to play as it should, at its high end level, then that coach is going to be perceived as not doing his job. And that's what is going on now.
Davis started his first year as HC with a team that looked like crap. Then the team caught fire and won those 2 very important games. That team also had a huge lead in the National Championship Game, only to get blown out. And since then, the team, which returned 4 starters, has looked no better than mediocre.
Ultimately, that failure to produce is all on the coach.
UNC basketball can go from the heights to long time mediocre. It happened to Indiana recently. Its happened to UCLA. When was the last time that St Johns had a Top 10 team. How about Georgetown? Moo had 2 NCAA Championships before Dook had 1. Does anybody now see Moo basketball as an elite program?
UNC can fall as far as Moo has fallen. The longer you tolerate mediocrity, the closer you get to establishing mediocrity.
Last year was great but whatever happened to having back to back great/good seasons? Memories of years gone by and what it used to be like as a Tar Heel fan.
They're in the past, that's what happened to them. It doesn't mean it's not in the future, but it's not unreasonable to expect some less-successful transition. And, going to the NCAAT Championship in year one isn't really a less-successful transition.
It's pretty amazing how impatient UNC fans are with HD. He goes to the NCAAT Championship, beats Coach K in the most memorable ways possible, and one year later, they still won't give him any love.
I think a lot of it has to do with the way he was hired. He was basically handed the job, without having to go through the traditional route you would expect from a blue blood. If you're going to be "anointed" then you better show you deserve it. Possibly going from #1 to NIT isn't a great way to show that.
ETA: I do find it odd that you hold our mediocre football program to a higher standard than basketball. You are normally ready to fire coaches after one game during football season.
i haven’t watched many hubert pressers.
this last one was uncomfortable…i can’t tell if he thinks they want to be coached or they aren’t being coached.
this last one was uncomfortable…i can’t tell if he thinks they want to be coached or they aren’t being coached.
We had our fun last year (and it was great) and now it's time to pay the piper. So be it. At least we don't have to worry about dook getting revenge on us in the final four this year ... LOL.
I'm pulling for HD to be successful because I'm a Heels fan. But also because HD is a great human being and parents of great players are gonna feel comfortable sending their kid to play for a great human being like HD. I hope he learns how to coach these great players into being great UNC teams.
I don't like his press conferences ... I don't like his hyperbole ... I don't like the way he doesn't develop his bench ... I don't like the way there has been no accountability for poor decisions/play ... and I don't like the lack of fight/leadership displayed by the team this year .... but I am pulling for HD to be successful.
Take a banner home for winning the ACC tourney and a lot of this train wreck of a season will be forgotten. Go Heels !!!
I'm pulling for HD to be successful because I'm a Heels fan. But also because HD is a great human being and parents of great players are gonna feel comfortable sending their kid to play for a great human being like HD. I hope he learns how to coach these great players into being great UNC teams.
I don't like his press conferences ... I don't like his hyperbole ... I don't like the way he doesn't develop his bench ... I don't like the way there has been no accountability for poor decisions/play ... and I don't like the lack of fight/leadership displayed by the team this year .... but I am pulling for HD to be successful.
Take a banner home for winning the ACC tourney and a lot of this train wreck of a season will be forgotten. Go Heels !!!
He knows our program better than any of us do, he’s around it every day. While some here want to blame this underachieving season on the player(s), he sees what most of us see. The staff shares the responsibility as well. That isn’t really debatable at this point.
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