Andrej Stojakovic

[TPFKAPFS]

He also sees a fanbase who is supposedly interested in him but can't be bothered to actually discuss him on two threads with his name in the title but.....AND who hasn't seen teams and coaches appear drastically different from year to year!

I really hope you consider us AS!

 

[GoNtheDistance]

I may be wrong on this but if I recall some of Roy’s UNC assistants:

- Steve Robinson (didn’t play at UNC)
- Jared Haase (didn’t play at UNC)
- CB McGrath (didn’t play at UNC)

No idea why playing at UNC is a requirement for a first time head coach in Hubert.

It’s also disappointing to me that there hasn’t been any changes within the coaching staff. To me, that shows a lack of accountability.

if you listened to Hubert’s pathetic post game pressers, there was never any accountability, nor explanation for much of anything he did. it was coaching cliche after coaching cliche. i knew we were in trouble late in the year when he was asked about a specific play coming out of a timeout late in the game and they inquired about who the play was designed for or what look we wanted and he said he couldn’t remember what the play was lol.

 

[Oak ridger]

if you listened to Hubert’s pathetic post game pressers, there was never any accountability, nor explanation for much of anything he did. it was coaching cliche after coaching cliche. i knew we were in trouble late in the year when he was asked about a specific play coming out of a timeout late in the game and they inquired about who the play was designed for or what look we wanted and he said he couldn’t remember what the play was lol.

If UNC fans are waiting till the NCAA tournament selection show to see if UNC is in the play in game, then a change needs to happen.

 

[TarHeelFanJ]

He’s now getting crystal balls/projections to Illinois

 

[DaveChapelle]

He’s now getting crystal balls/projections to Illinois

Tipton is the only prediction I've seen so far. But that just probably means Stojakovic has paid him to create his Illinois transfer graphic.

 

[imajericho]

I just saw something that said he is down to Cal, Kentucky, and UNC as his final 3. Lol

 

[TarHeelFanJ]

I just saw something that said he is down to Cal, Kentucky, and UNC as his final 3. Lol

I don’t think he’s returning to Cal tbh. Unless you meant Illinois, UK, UNC

 

[gary-7]

He’s now getting crystal balls/projections to Illinois

Better than dook, who offered a nice chunk, so I'm told.

 

[NorCalTarheel]

I just saw something that said he is down to Cal, Kentucky, and UNC as his final 3. Lol

Last year's finalist?

 

[DaveChapelle]

I just saw something that said he is down to Cal, Kentucky, and UNC as his final 3. Lol

You just read something from a year ago.

 

[imajericho]

You just read something from a year ago.

Probably. Was a facebook banner that didn't have the date from when the banner was.

 

[Tarheels39]

Sounds like Illinois in the lead and UNC is pushing hard

 

[UNCfanofhoops]

UCLA more than likely

Nope - Illinois……or maybe UNC…..after that Zags

 

[Kool1234567]

Sounds like Illinois in the lead and UNC is pushing hard

This…UNC is talking to him and have been for about 2 weeks…

 

[Geth]

Nope - Illinois……or maybe UNC…..after that Zags

• I mean it wasn't on Friday at 9:28 AM when I initially posted that.

 

[DaveChapelle]

With Powell and Lubin's NIL money available, I believe we can make him the biggest offer. The question is will we?

 

[Geth]

Not to be an ass but his stats are kinda meh. I mean 17.9 pts a game yeah but his 3% is borderline and I don't think D is exactly in his wheelhouse.

 

[Kool1234567]

With Powell and Lubin's NIL money available, I believe we can make him the biggest offer. The question is will we?

This….Offer him the bag…

 

[NathanFielder]

Not to be an ass but his stats are kinda meh. I mean 17.9 pts a game yeah but his 3% is borderline and I don't think D is exactly in his wheelhouse.

He put up pretty similar numbers to RJ. He was less efficient from 3 though. Question is are his stats just empty calories on a horrid Cal team? Or will playing with better players help him improve?

It's a little bit of a Pete Nance vs Harrison Ingram situation.

I think he's a better shooter, though. I didn't watch a lot of Cal, but I imagine he was the #1 guy on the opponent's scouting report and he still had to get up his shots, though. I think this team pretty desperately needs a 2 or 3 who can be a #1 option because that isn't on the roster right now. So I would take the chance and go for it. There are other needs for sure (backup center and backup guard(s). But a perimeter scorer is a priority right now IMO.

 

[dtodd4475]

He put up pretty similar numbers to RJ. He was less efficient from 3 though. Question is are his stats just empty calories on a horrid Cal team? Or will playing with better players help him improve?

It's a little bit of a Pete Nance vs Harrison Ingram situation.

I think he's a better shooter, though. I didn't watch a lot of Cal, but I imagine he was the #1 guy on the opponent's scouting report and he still had to get up his shots, though. I think this team pretty desperately needs a 2 or 3 who can be a #1 option because that isn't on the roster right now. So I would take the chance and go for it. There are other needs for sure (backup center and backup guard(s). But a perimeter scorer is a priority right now IMO.

Does people totally ignoring "empty calories " with Tyson's very poor power 5 performances going into last years portal, and insisting he was a must feature guy play into some Stojakovich doubt this year?

He did play power 5, albeit the ACC, which was down again, but the same conference, and athletic defenders, where he was the focus for all defenses he faced. He is a Euro type spread and score guy for sure.

I think he is a MUCH better fit with a much better resume than Tyson, who quite a few people were GA-GA about pre season last year, "not playing the best shooter around would be malpractice ", I was doubtful from, seeing him play in the MVC.

Peja's boy can score at this level, and create. He is not a rounded 3 and dee type, but not the dead fish defending that the anointed Cade Tyson was. Don't know if they can get him, but for me he is such a better fit, than what many thought the Cade Tyson get was.

 

[tarheels0015]

With Dorn now committed to Indiana .. wonder if Andrej stojakovic is hopefully coming to UNC !

 

[dtodd4475]

With Dorn now committed to Indiana .. wonder if Andrej stojakovic is hopefully coming to UNC !

I think it's possible, but I don't think they are the favorite. My opinion is Stojakovich wants to play in a spread Euro type offense, and for all the complaints that Hubert does too much of that for traditional UNC fans liming, he's not that level. Illinois definitely is.

I would like him, just not sure he is sold on the spread, modern attack he and Peja see as the NBA style/best path being utilized.

 

[gary-7]

I think it's possible, but I don't think they are the favorite. My opinion is Stojakovich wants to play in a spread Euro type offense, and for all the complaints that Hubert does too much of that for traditional UNC fans liming, he's not that level. Illinois definitely is.

I would like him, just not sure he is sold on the spread, modern attack he and Peja see as the NBA style/best path being utilized.

That is not the issue whatsover.

 

[_B5]

That is not the issue whatsover.

Gary more and more it seems as if the tea leaves are saying the issue is Hubert. During the season it felt like you were indifferent, now it feels like your position has changed to he should be gone.

Was Elliot’s scathing remarks on the coaching staff the straw that broke the camels back. It feels like we are at a point now in which we are having to overpay players because Hubert is the coach.

 

[Spaceytoyz]

If we get him or anther high level player we’re fine if not they really need to evaluate the staff because it does look like it’s a problem

 

[gary-7]

Gary more and more it seems as if the tea leaves are saying the issue is Hubert. During the season it felt like you were indifferent, now it feels like your position has changed to he should be gone.

Was Elliot’s scathing remarks on the coaching staff the straw that broke the camels back. It feels like we are at a point now in which we are having to overpay players because Hubert is the coach.

Actually, I was never indifferent --- I just tried to keep in mind that these things are nuanced as I made my critiques.

Similarly, I don't necessarily want Hubert gone. It would be a VERY bad look for a legendary program if that occurs. So, I am pulling as hard as I can for him to extract his cranium from his posterior and start coaching the Carolina basketball he was taught --- because if he doesn't, welp, he will indeed be gone, whether any of us like it ir not.

As for the Eliot revelations, TBH they just confirmed what my eyes were already telling me, and what I was hoping was my imagination. Well... ok, that's not entirely honest --- some of my sources close to players had been telling me that there was a problem in that vein --- but hey, hope springs eternal, right?...

 

[gary-7]

Gary more and more it seems as if the tea leaves are saying the issue is Hubert. During the season it felt like you were indifferent, now it feels like your position has changed to he should be gone.

Was Elliot’s scathing remarks on the coaching staff the straw that broke the camels back. It feels like we are at a point now in which we are having to overpay players because Hubert is the coach.

Allow me to add one more thing. The GM/staff is throwing the boodle at Stojakovic. His dad is not impressed by what we did om the floor last season, but it has nothing to do with wanting more NBA stuff. It's about the offensive dysfunction we all sat thru.

Now, we might nonetheless talk them into coming here, and if so everyone will make nice and say all the right things and act like it was the first choice all along. Yeah right. It'll be a sales job.

But again, the issue in players not coming here has NOT been about money, nor is it about the staff per se, it is about the squandering of the dynamic talent that ultimately left.

 

[ChapelHeeled]

Allow me to add one more thing. The GM/staff is throwing the boodle at Stojakovic. His dad is not impressed by what we did om the floor last season, but it has nothing to do with wanting more NBA stuff. It's about the offensive dysfunction we all sat thru.

Now, we might nonetheless talk them into coming here, and if so everyone will make nice and say all the right things and act like it was the first choice all along. Yeah right. It'll be a sales job.

But again, the issue in players not coming here has NOT been about money, nor is it about the staff per se, it is about the squandering of the dynamic talent that ultimately left.

Gary, to be real, wouldn't all of that dynamic talent that ultimately left actually be playing professional basketball next season if there was so much talent involved? Yes they would. Drake Powell was the only player on this years team who had what it takes to reach the NBA and actually get a decent chance at playing Next season. Your sour grapes are evident in each post above. I wish nothing but the very best to all of our former players that chose to leave. However, not a single one of them outside of Drake Powell was a truly superior player. Now, some may become good enough. However, all but Drake were simply not ready, at this time. True talent is apparent...

 

[Tarheelsman71]

CH, i dont think Drake was/is ready for NBA. My opinion of course. I also agree that nobody was ready. They are all chasing $$$ and who can fault them. We do the same thing in the private sector. I want more money, I can ask my boss and he will most likely say no or give me a wee lil raise. OR i can find a different job at a new place for the amount of money that I am asking for. As for Peja...It would be nice if his son came and Peja was allowed to add some NBA experience and RW experience to the roster as a coach. Couldnt hurt. He was a very savvy player.

 

[gunslingerdick]

But again, the issue in players not coming here has NOT been about money, nor is it about the staff per se, it is about the squandering of the dynamic talent that ultimately left.

How is it not about the staff? The staff is who squandered the talent. So it's clearly about the staff, no?

 

[Bubspub88]

Gary, to be real, wouldn't all of that dynamic talent that ultimately left actually be playing professional basketball next season if there was so much talent involved? Yes they would. Drake Powell was the only player on this years team who had what it takes to reach the NBA and actually get a decent chance at playing Next season. Your sour grapes are evident in each post above. I wish nothing but the very best to all of our former players that chose to leave. However, not a single one of them outside of Drake Powell was a truly superior player. Now, some may become good enough. However, all but Drake were simply not ready, at this time. True talent is apparent...

The seasons that EC and Ian have next year will be very telling. If they play at all conference levels it will look bad for Hubert. If they show spurts of greatness followed by so so play it should take some negativity off him in recruiting circles.

UNC had solid talent last season it was just not balanced talent. Unfortunately next year still looks like a bad talent mix as of now.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

We don't have any 18 a game scorers on the roster as of now or before the transfer portal.

Drop the bag coaches.

 

[notashelbyfan]

How much have you donated?

Because in my personal experience, most of the alumni I know refuse to donate because "they should want to play for us because we're Carolina."

Or maybe they don't want to waste their money on a player that's going to come in for one season and then leave because our coaching staff sucks!

 

[gary-7]

Gary, to be real, wouldn't all of that dynamic talent that ultimately left actually be playing professional basketball next season if there was so much talent involved? Yes they would. Drake Powell was the only player on this years team who had what it takes to reach the NBA and actually get a decent chance at playing Next season. Your sour grapes are evident in each post above. I wish nothing but the very best to all of our former players that chose to leave. However, not a single one of them outside of Drake Powell was a truly superior player. Now, some may become good enough. However, all but Drake were simply not ready, at this time. True talent is apparent...

Whoa and back the truck up. There's a difference here. The particular talent the NBA likes is not necessarily better --- it's just sometimes different from what excels in college (and hell, that changes from year to year by whatever friggin fad is in vogue).

Let's get real here: Would you pass off the myriad GREAT college players who never excelled in the NBA as somehow not being great talents? Lord knows, we've had our share. Some never got a fair shot and some were 1st-rounders who were cast off early because someone didn't like their fit.

Would you say JR Reid, Tyler Hansbrough, Tyler Zeller, Justin Jackson, and a cast of many were not real talents because they were outta the league early?... or guys like Joel Berry, Brice Johnson, Kennedy Meeks, Marcus Paige, et al, were somehow not real talents because they didn't find the right pro situation? Because, lemme tell ya, we would kill for any dadgummed one of those guys right about now.

Sorry to go off, but that premise is insanely flawed and TBH just sounds like an attempt to dull the pain from a VERY REAL and significant loss of talent we just experienced, and brother, sorry, there is NO getting around that fact.

 

[gary-7]

CH, i dont think Drake was/is ready for NBA. My opinion of course. I also agree that nobody was ready. They are all chasing $$$ and who can fault them. We do the same thing in the private sector. I want more money, I can ask my boss and he will most likely say no or give me a wee lil raise. OR i can find a different job at a new place for the amount of money that I am asking for. As for Peja...It would be nice if his son came and Peja was allowed to add some NBA experience and RW experience to the roster as a coach. Couldnt hurt. He was a very savvy player.

Had we run a better system last season (and thus not triggered all the other attrition) Drake my very well be coming back for one more run to build his draft stock. Not 100% by any means. but a VERY good chance. Sorry, but we are where we are.

 

[DaveChapelle]

Anyone actually want to talk about Stojakovic?

 

[gary-7]

How is it not about the staff? The staff is who squandered the talent. So it's clearly about the staff, no?

I get that. What I'm trying to say is this staff projects a very attractive vibe to recruits as the sort of guys you'd like to play for (including the family thing, etc). But yes, unfortunately, that has recently contrasted mightily with results because of some poor strategic decisions.

 

[_B5]

The seasons that EC and Ian have next year will be very telling. If they play at all conference levels it will look bad for Hubert. If they show spurts of greatness followed by so so play it should take some negativity off him in recruiting circles.

UNC had solid talent last season it was just not balanced talent. Unfortunately next year still looks like a bad talent mix as of now.

We had talent last year, it was just terrible coaching. Playing Drake and Ian at power forward should be a fireable offense. We came back in three games in Hawaii and Hubert decided that small ball was our best lineup. Not a change of pace lineup, but our best lineup. It took him another 20 games to realize it wasn’t. Steve Nash was fired for putting Seth Curry and Kyrie Irving at the three and four. Lastly, Yes we were a bit guard heavy but we should have had a 5 man rotation at the 4 and 5 the entire season. The best bigs that game will play. As a rotation I believe they were serviceable.

 

[Cmdmgm606]

Well, damn Dave. Just give it away, why donthca?...

Seriously though (and I suspect you can relate), it took me (and others closer to the program than either of us) a while to narrow down to whom Hubert is too reliant on. In fairness, Jeff has always been an excellent "X-and-O" guy (he was at TTech, UTC, Auburn and ECU) --- in fact, he has drawn up some killer "situational" plays since he's been here, and I suspect he was the mastermind behind scheming us to the FF in Hubert's first season.

BUT.... with that said, he was never a "system" guy, vis-s-vis Dean's legacy, and that was his downfall once he moved up in HC level. With my Auburn ties, I watched him closely there and pulled for him as hard as I could, but not fully embracing the Caroiina system doomed him to underachieving, TBH --- same thing happened in Greenville.

Anyway, once I saw what happened to our transition game this past season, I got a familiar knot in my gut, and after doing some digging, yeah..... sure enough

 

[Cmdmgm606]

Hope Davis moves on from Carolina he deserves better,man hands are tied when it comes to getting NIL money,and the money people are not making donations like other schools do,,they think the name Carolina should be enough for kids to come,the old Carolina way doesn't work these days.