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Bamba loves Roy.....

That's true. He admitted as much in an interview which is encouraging. I've just been so disillusioned by the past few years I don't get my hopes up that much anymore. That said, after next year we will have a lot of slots open for big men and it'll be pretty tempting for the top guys. I also realize 24/7 isn't entirely accurate. In fact I think it's kind of rigged. You know how many Blue Devil insiders they got over there? 4 or 5. UNC? 1, and his name is Ross Martin or something.
 
24/7 is not a reliable source at all. It's literally bloggers and writers that make picks on the same amount of information as any fan with the internet has.

As far as your post is concerned, I can't imagine dook getting Bamba and Carter. Most Duke fans say it's one or the other. Doesn't mean we get him, but still. I think we land Tilmon IMO. Washington isn't a lock at all, but it's still early in the process. Bolden could have an effect on next year's class.

A class of Felton, Platek, Tilmon, another quality big, and maybe a PG, would be a successful class for us IMO.
247 is just as reliable as anybody. Check the record it's pretty accurate. It's still early in the process so many picks will trend in different directions as verbals are given.
 
247 is just as reliable as anybody. Check the record it's pretty accurate. It's still early in the process so many picks will trend in different directions as verbals are given.

I disagree. There have been many cases that say otherwise. The picks they do get correct are usually on the recruits that have their every recruiting moves broadcasted by every sports media outlet. Seventh Woods, for example, was given 80% to USC because he kept his recruiting under reps. And there are many other examples they've done so with in the past.

I won't knock the entire site, as I do use some of their resources. But the "Crystal Ball" predictions are extremely over hyped.
 
The kid is not going to Duke because he is ranked to low for Duke. He will not get an offer. Kenard is 4-year player that shoots lights out. Duke will not offer him. K will always get 2-3 of the top 20 players . This kid would not get on the floor at Duke.
 
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The kid is not going to Duke because he is ranked to low for Duke. He will not get an offer. Kenard is 4-year player that shoots lights out. Duke will not offer him. K will always get 2-3 of the top 20 players . This kid would not get on the floor at Duke.

Huh?
 
I disagree. There have been many cases that say otherwise. The picks they do get correct are usually on the recruits that have their every recruiting moves broadcasted by every sports media outlet. Seventh Woods, for example, was given 80% to USC because he kept his recruiting under reps. And there are many other examples they've done so with in the past.

I won't knock the entire site, as I do use some of their resources. But the "Crystal Ball" predictions are extremely over hyped.
everybody that puts down 247 uses the same Seventh Woods example. They were right on Ingram , Udoka , Robinson , Tatum , Dennis Smith , The Finnish kid everybody on here were sure we would get and I could go on and on.
 
You need to look at WHO is making the predictions in the crystal ball. If a USC insider is saying USC then it might not mean much lol. It is a % of what people pick. For example, on Marquise Bolden 2 Duke insiders just changed their predictions on him to Kentucky. Thus, you can follow the dots to figure Duke insiders have heard something that points to Bolden not picking Duke and they surmise he will go to the other major option Kentucky.

You can't just look at the school listed and say oh yeah thats the one. You have to look at who is making such predictions.
 
And it is not like the recruits have set picks and people are figuring them out. They might change their decision 10 times and what was a good prediction at the time could have changed.
 
You need to look at WHO is making the predictions in the crystal ball. If a USC insider is saying USC then it might not mean much lol. It is a % of what people pick. For example, on Marquise Bolden 2 Duke insiders just changed their predictions on him to Kentucky. Thus, you can follow the dots to figure Duke insiders have heard something that points to Bolden not picking Duke and they surmise he will go to the other major option Kentucky.

You can't just look at the school listed and say oh yeah thats the one. You have to look at who is making such predictions.
yeah...you watch the 247 guys like Ross Martin , Jerry Meyer etc. and the guys who interview the prospects. Some prospects are just too easy example Harry "China doll" Giles it was obvious at Theo's commitment that he wasn't coming to Carolina cause when Theo put the UNC cap on him he couldn't take it off fast enough. He was so worried about pissing off the Dark Lord and Ingram was just as easy to pick.
 
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I remember hoping right up until his decision Ingram would still come to Carolina. He probably would have too without this stupid scandal. But I remember the predictions went slowly from Carolina to Duke and it became apparent he was leaning that way as well.
 
247 is just as reliable as anybody. Check the record it's pretty accurate. It's still early in the process so many picks will trend in different directions as verbals are given.

Yeah, since they change their picks as the wind blows! If you went straight by their original predictions you would see how bad they are.
 
Yeah, since they change their picks as the wind blows! If you went straight by their original predictions you would see how bad they are.
Yeah and kids change their picks and leans as well , so what's your point? Let me put it this way...who else is willing to stick their picks out there for all to see?
 
everybody that puts down 247 uses the same Seventh Woods example. They were right on Ingram , Udoka , Robinson , Tatum , Dennis Smith , The Finnish kid everybody on here were sure we would get and I could go on and on.

"The picks they do get correct are usually on the recruits that have their every recruiting moves broadcasted by every sports media outlet."

Like I said, anyony with a brain and internet could have guessed where most of those recruits were going. "The Finnish Kid" was the only one that may have been less broadcasted, and even then, they werent sold on his commitment until the last week of his recruitment.

Robert Johnson - 75% to UNC (Chose Indiana)
Keven Looney - 72% to Duke (Chose UCLA)
Cliff Alexander - 64% to Illinois (Chose Kansas)
Edrice Adebayo - 75% to NC State, until thr last week (Chose Kentucky)

Those are off the top of my head. There are more, but you can research them yourself.

Each of those recruits did not broadcast their recruitment. Which is why they were not picked correctly by the masses.

You can defend them just because they're "brave" enough to make their picks public, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give them credit where credit is not due. Making educated guesses like the rest of us can do is not something im going to applaud them for.
 
I agree. I realize recruiting is a fluid process, but if I could continually revise my predictions, I could be fairly accurate too. The crystal ball is what it is, take it with a huge grain of salt.
 
Everyone on here had Bam going to NC State the whole time too. What is your point?

Things change.

That the Cystal Ball predictions are "just writers and bloggers making predictions with the same amount of information as anyone with the internet could."

The point that I've been making since the beginning.
 
I think they may be privy to a bit more recruiting info than we are but the difference certainly isn't night and day. Not enough to make their predictions significantly better than ours if we were allowed to constantly change our picks. I like sites like theirs, I just realize their inherent limitations with regard to predicting what 18 year olds will do.

I think some of these kids are pretty sure where they're going to school but just want to enjoy the attention the recruiting process affords them. Who doesn't enjoy being feted? But I think many of them aren't really sure until pretty late in the process. Remember how many times you changed your mind about something when you were 18? I certainly do.
 
I think they may be privy to a bit more recruiting info than we are but the difference certainly isn't night and day. Not enough to make their predictions significantly better than ours if we were allowed to constantly change our picks. I like sites like theirs, I just realize their inherent limitations with regard to predicting what 18 year olds will do.

I think some of these kids are pretty sure where they're going to school but just want to enjoy the attention the recruiting process affords them. Who doesn't enjoy being feted? But I think many of them aren't really sure until pretty late in the process. Remember how many times you changed your mind about something when you were 18? I certainly do.

I like their site as well. They do rankings a lot better than ESPN and Rivals (IMO), as well as a few other features, but people give too much credit to the picks without examining the semantics of the Crystal Ball rankings themselves.

You also have to take in the fact that some kids don't enjoy the recruiting process. Woods gave me that impression and there were plenty of others recruits in the past that didn't publicize everything they did. These are the ones that 247 usually got wrong.

It's because of that and the fact that recruits change their minds so much that I don't give the picks that much credit.

I can't tell you how many times I see someone come here and say something like "We probably won't get him. 247 has them as a lean to Dook."
 
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