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App’s QB got knocked out in the first series. Probable concussion, didn’t return. Their two backups threw Two INT’s each. Ergo, the score.
This seems like a cop out to me. I'm just hoping if bubba considers him, that it will only be a four year deal with a small buyout. Any more than that, then it will be almost impossible to recover from.
We've had multiple QBs with injuries the last two years. You don't seem to be giving Fed the same benefit of the doubt.
Well, if App had come off a 3 win season, which followed a season ruined by its terrible ending which highlighted the fact that the HC kept the future #2 NFL draft pick on the bench for 3 years, and Satterfield had been stupid enough to think that Brandon Harris was his answer at QB for a year, then I'd oppose Satterfield 100%.
That’s BS. I was one of Fed’s most enthusiastic supporters until he proved to be all talk and very little action. And actions speak much louder than words.
My point was he was completely dismissing the negative impact that an injured QB has on UNC, but saying it was ok for app st to lose because of it. Why didn't Satterfield have a backup plan in place? His backup QB shouldn't be so much worse that he gets blown out right? Given that he's such a great coach and can get players to play their best, was this just a recruiting miss on his part?
You were openly hoping we would lose last year. That's BS.
This year was not the start of the Fedora years. This year means much water has gone under the bridge.
In years 2 and 3, I knew Fedora screwed the pooch by not playing Trubisky, but I also felt that Koenning was the bigger issue, one which corrected could overcome the former. But when I realized I had been wrong (Koenning was not close to the problem), I became increasingly certain that either Fedora must go or we were doomed to mediocrity. And when you realize that, you know that worst thing for the program is Fedora getting a Pyrrhic victory - like Bunting's win over Miami.
That Miami win meant Bunting was not fired after 3 seasons: it meant he would coach 6 seasons. And that made the job his replacement faced twice as difficult.
That is the reason Archer is more than ready for Fedora to just lose out so we can get started with necessary rebuilding.
I think Fed should go to, but I'm never going to pull for UNC to lose to get rid of him. At what point in the Bunting era did you hope UNC would lose? My guess is even though you hated Bunting you were still pulling for the heels.
It helps to read someone's post before you vehemently disagree. Read what I said below.
As stated, GSU's only loss was to Clensum, they would wax our butts were we to play them. They threw the ball exactly 3 times. Those option teams are hard to stop. App loses their top RB for the year last game(6th most yards in school history, 3,570 yards, 33 TD's, 6.1 YPC average), and their QB to a concussion on their first offensive series of the game. That's a lot of adversity to overcome, especially when your backup QB's throw four picks.
This game doesn't diminish my appreciation of Satterfield one bit.
This game doesn't diminish my appreciation of Satterfield one bit.
Sorry, but that's a ridiculous question. I haven't seen one poster claim that they don't. Perhaps you can cite a couple of instances where someone said they don't matter.
They're a natural result of a very violent game, they're going to happen. Heck, they happen in all sports. You just have to be prepared for them as best you can, and then deal with them.
Anyone who follows UNC basketball knows we've had more than our share of critical injuries, some of which probably cost us a very good shot at a national title.
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You are delusional with your takes on Mitch vs Quise. It’s comical.
So they get the injury excuse but we don’t? If Mack doesn’t go down against Duke, I think we win double digits and the Coastal in back to back years.
The last 2 years have unprecedented injuroes, especially last year. I asked @andrew jones if he’s ever seen anything like it and he said no.
He’s been given a pass. Let me ask you one question. Do you think Fed deserves to coach UNC next year? Not whether he will, but whether he deserves to do so.
Tons of people seem to have given him a pass on the historical injuries, but I think that's just part of the game, need to prepare for it, and coach around it if/when injuries happen. Part of being a good coach.
Yes, he does. The Athletic Department and the University clearly don't care about football, and Fed clearly can't coach football. They deserve each other.
I guess that means Satterfield didn't prepare very well.
ETA: Which is worrisome because this was not only a big game for them, it was also against a rival. You should never be unprepared for a rival.
I think you’re a part of a minute minority. I admire you for sticking by your guns.
Sorry, but even with our injuries this year, there is no excuse for our 1-5 record. None.
I’ll ask you the same question. Do you think Fed deserves to be our coach next year?
The only unacceptable loss (when considering all the suspensions and injuries ) is ECU. We could just as easily be 4-2 or 5-1 if we had half of our injured players playing.
Fedora averaged over 8 wins going into last year. He didn’t suddenly forget how to coach. He had more success at So Miss than Satterfield ever has at App.
If we fire Fedora, he will find his way and do really good things at another school.
No, but I also don't want to fire him just to fire him. We need to have a new coach that has some idea what it's like to be a part of a P5 program. If not, then you're most likely going to be no better off and your bank account is going to be $12 million less.
I hope so. My local High School is looking for a new coach, maybe he can get on their short list with a good interview.
Ya, this is ultimately where I'm at. We all know Fedora sucks. But I have zero confidence in us landing anyone better than him... so at that point might as well just pay Fed and lose with him, as opposed to paying Fed and another coach and losing with that guy.
Honest question for you. If Fedora sucks so badly, how does he win 11 at So Miss and 10 at UNC? You have to go back to Mack to find a guy who did that for us.
Southern Miss is/was a non-P5 school. Outside of his one good year he was 5 games over .500 in 3 years, which isn't anything to write home about.
Similar story at UNC. One really good year that was the beneficiary of having a joke of a schedule. It seems like he can catch lightning in a bottle if everything works out great, but other than that isn't really anything special.
Preparation also entails developing your players. It was obvious that we had no one prepared to step in at QB this year.
App lost a four year starter with these stats:
751 of 1237
60.7 completion %
9763 yards
7.9 Y/A
90 TD
32 INT
145.8 QBR
Yet they had a RSS QB ready to step in and lead his team to an OT loss to PSU in Happy Valley and a top 25 ranking at 5-1. The rookie QB's stats this year?
81 of 133
60.9 completion %
1145 yards
8.61 Y/A
11 TD
4 INT
154.5 QBR
That's preparation.
Not sure about So Miss, but he won it here because of an easy schedule, weak division, almost no injures and a Butch Davis recruited QB perfect for his system.
We'll have to agree to disagree here. As stated above, Fed is able to catch lightening in a bottle every so often, but is a mediocre coach most years. The 2015 season was an aberration, an anomaly when you look at his overall record. He had the perfect storm season with a talented team that played a very weak schedule.
Question for you. How many app state games have you watched? And piece of advice for you. Continuing to point to a loss isn't helpful to your case. There are coaches out there who have actually beat teams. Why not advocate for Jeff Brohm? He has a far better resume and just laid a beat down on OSU.
