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Southern Miss is/was a non-P5 school. Outside of his one good year he was 5 games over .500 in 3 years, which isn't anything to write home about.
Hard to argue with that. Don't forget we were forewarned by more than one Southern Miss fan that he was just that, an average coach.
Not sure about So Miss, but he won it here because of an easy schedule, weak division, almost no injures and a Butch Davis recruited QB perfect for his system.
Also hard to argue with that.
 
Question for you. How many app state games have you watched? And piece of advice for you. Continuing to point to a loss isn't helpful to your case. There are coaches out there who have actually beat teams. Why not advocate for Jeff Brohm? He has a far better resume and just laid a beat down on OSU.
I disagree. Taking PSU, a top 10 program, to OT in Happy Valley, with a rookie QB starting for the first time, eclipses anything Fed has accomplished. Our 2015 team couldn't have done that.

As for Brohm, I'd love to have him as our coach. I just think a bigger football school is going to lure him away. I think we should have him on our short list, perhaps at the top, but I don't see him coming to UNC. I'd love to be wrong. I think we have a much better chance with Satterfield.

I went to the Georgia Southern game last year, a friend has a granddaughter at App. They won 27-6 and were a very disciplined, well coached team, something that has been nonexistent under Fed.
 
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I disagree. Taking PSU, a top 10 program, to OT in Happy Valley, with a rookie QB starting for the first time, eclipses anything Fed has accomplished. Our 2015 team couldn't have done that.

As for Brohm, I'd love to have him as our coach. I just think a bigger football school is going to lure him away. I think we should have him on our short list, perhaps at the top, but I don't see him coming to UNC. I'd love to be wrong. I think we have a much better chance with Satterfield.

I went to the Georgia Southern game last year, a friend has a granddaughter at App. They won 27-6 and were a very disciplined, well coached team.
So you're saying you want Satterfield as our coach, because he's the best we can do instead of the best option? I'm not sure forming an opinion on him by watching one game is the best way to gauge his coaching abilities, especially since his resume isn't very good.
 
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So you're saying you want Satterfield as our coach, because he's the best we can do instead of the best option? I'm not sure forming an opinion on him by watching one game is the best way to gauge his coaching abilities, especially since his resume isn't very good.
Read my post again. I said I would love to have Brohm, that he should perhaps be at the top of our list. If we can sign him, great.

I saw more disciplined, fundamentally sound football from App in that one game than I've seen from all of Fed's UNC games combined. Players consistently in the right position to make plays, and then making them. No stupid PF penalties at crucial times.

For the last time, we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
Read my post again. I said I would love to have Brohm, that he should perhaps be at the top of our list. If we can sign him, great.
Right, but in about 5 million other post you have said or insinuated that Satterfield should be the one we go after first. It seems odd to advocate for a guy who's best game is a loss instead of a guy who beat down a national power and has a better resume.
 
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You are delusional with your takes on Mitch vs Quise. It’s comical.



So they get the injury excuse but we don’t? If Mack doesn’t go down against Duke, I think we win double digits and the Coastal in back to back years.

The last 2 years have unprecedented injuroes, especially last year. I asked @andrew jones if he’s ever seen anything like it and he said no.

You can’t use the injury excuse if your backup and third string are all equally as shitty as your starter. We’ve had some injuries but candidly when you are playing with 2 star talent, there’s not much jump or drop on either side. We lack talent and depth. That’s recruiting. And we can’t recruit because our coach is a prick who has turned off top in state high school coaches and because the results on the field are trash.
 
You can’t use the injury excuse if your backup and third string are all equally as shitty as your starter. We’ve had some injuries but candidly when you are playing with 2 star talent, there’s not much jump or drop on either side. We lack talent and depth. That’s recruiting. And we can’t recruit because our coach is a prick who has turned off top in state high school coaches and because the results on the field are trash.

And also you act like the injuries took us from a 10 win team to a 2 win team. Realistically in most years our over under is 6 games at full strength because of the lack of talent and depth. That’s mediocre/average at best football. Not exactly anything to write home about.
 
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You can’t use the injury excuse if your backup and third string are all equally as shitty as your starter. We’ve had some injuries but candidly when you are playing with 2 star talent, there’s not much jump or drop on either side. We lack talent and depth. That’s recruiting. And we can’t recruit because our coach is a prick who has turned off top in state high school coaches and because the results on the field are trash.
If he can’t recruit why has he consistently had better classes than Dave Doeren? It’s ether he can’t coach or recruit. Which one?
 
And also you act like the injuries took us from a 10 win team to a 2 win team. Realistically in most years our over under is 6 games at full strength because of the lack of talent and depth. That’s mediocre/average at best football. Not exactly anything to write home about.
Lol. Not very smart are you?
 
No response. Again, go back and look at all the win/loss projections under Fedora and most all have us hovering around .500
With a full deck of cards. We had one great season when everything came together and we had a good schedule that year, let’s be honest. But other than that, it’s been mired in mediocrity and now mediocrity would be an upgrade. There’s no argument there. It’s reality. How dumb are you? Your dad sucks.
 
If he can’t recruit why has he consistently had better classes than Dave Doeren? It’s ether he can’t coach or recruit. Which one?

Also not exactly true. Once Doeren settled in at state, he has routinely out recruited Fedora and glaringly so in North Carolina. May want to re check the rankings recently. Fedora as a coach is a quickly declining asset aka a liability.
 
Also not exactly true. Once Doeren settled in at state, he has routinely out recruited Fedora and glaringly so in North Carolina. May want to re check the rankings recently. Fedora as a coach is a quickly declining asset aka a liability.
Dull Dave’s best year is 8 wins.
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If we needed any more proof that our football program is a shit show. We now have the head coaches daughter on message boards defending her dad with lies and excuses. Is this real life?
 
Again, you deflect away from answering direct questions or direct responses to the shit you spew because it’s not factual and blatantly delusional. I HATE MooU but they won 9 game last year. Not sure if you can count but that’s better than 8. And the fact that you are using NC State as a strong point is laughable. They’ve our recruited us and completed owned us on the gridiron lately. You seriously have lost your mind. Apple not far from the tree. o_O
 
I did a quick check on rivals. The only year moo has out recruited us is 2019.

I’m looking at 4 stars and top 300 players (true difference makers on a consistent basis). Any power5 is going to get a top 40 ranking in recruiting based on 3 star volume if you are signing at least 12-15 in the 3* range.
 
I’m looking at 4 stars and top 300 players (true difference makers on a consistent basis)
You really suck at this.

2011 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2011 4*- UNC 8 Moo 1

2012 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2012 4*- UNC 3 Moo 0

2013 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2013 4*- UNC 2 Moo 0

2014 5*- UNC 1 Moo 0
2014 4*- UNC 4 Moo 3

2015 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2015 4*- UNC 5 Moo 5

2016 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2016 4*- UNC 7 Moo 2

2017 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2017 4*- UNC 5 Moo 2

2018 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2018 4*- UNC 6 Moo 5

2019 5*- UNC 0 Moo 0
2019 4*- UNC 1 Moo 4
 
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If you read my posts above, I clearly state I’m talking about in state, North Carolina recruits. If you have a membership, you can sort rivals, espn and 247 across a variety of different filters.
 
Again, the argument is irrelevant here even though I’m right here. Results are results. Fedora supporters try to take the argument away from wins and losses and current trends, but rather focus on injuries, excuses, games we “should” have won, etc. the “games we should have won” is my absolute favorite. If we did this and if we did that, we would have won that game. That can be said for every team that loses. Stop the nonsense. We are failing miserably under this mans leadership and it is mirroring the bare cupboard that he left his last school. I’d much rather us be successful and winning games and not be in this spot but we are and it falls squarely and Fedora.
 
Good news is that with the new blue chair back seats in Kenan, it doesn’t look as bad on TV when only 20k show up for the games.
 
If you read my posts above, I clearly state I’m talking about in state, North Carolina recruits.
You have never limited it to just in state recruits in multiple posts. Your last posts is the first time you mentioned NC recruits and it was in addition to overall recruiting.

even though I’m right here
No you're not. I've shown several times that you are wrong. Numbers don't lie.
 
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Also not exactly true. Once Doeren settled in at state, he has routinely out recruited Fedora and glaringly so in North Carolina. May want to re check the rankings recently. Fedora as a coach is a quickly declining asset aka a liability.

I guess putting “in North Carolina” wasn’t clear in the post in this thread when arguing with Fedora’s daughter
 
Now that we’ve cleared that up, any Fedora supporter care to offer a legitimate reason we should keep him without referencing his buyout number being quite substantial as a selling point to keep him for another year? I’m actually interested in hearing a good argument. We will wait....
 
I guess putting “in North Carolina” wasn’t clear in the post in this thread when arguing with Fedora’s daughter
Do you not understand what "and" means? That's just one post of yours though. There have been multiple ones where you've only said overall recruiting. Now that we've got that cleared up what other things should I correct you on?

ETA: I would rather have five 4* out of state, than two 4* in state
 
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Right, but in about 5 million other post you have said or insinuated that Satterfield should be the one we go after first. It seems odd to advocate for a guy who's best game is a loss instead of a guy who beat down a national power and has a better resume.
5 million? Then it should be easy to cite, say 50? You are the master of overstatement. I like Satterfield, I think he’s an up and comer. You don’t? Fine. You just can’t agree to disagree.

Good lord @tarheel0910 is taking @Archer2 to the woodshed
You’re another that can’t agree to disagree. That’s your problem, not mine.
 
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Now that we’ve cleared that up, any Fedora supporter care to offer a legitimate reason we should keep him without referencing his buyout number being quite substantial as a selling point to keep him for another year? I’m actually interested in hearing a good argument. We will wait....

Still waiting Ms Fedora.....

You went crickets on us for a while when I called you out. Did daddy call you from the football office and tell you that staffers and players are blowing the whistle on Fedora family on message boards so you better chill?
 
Still waiting Ms Fedora.....

You went crickets on us for a while when I called you out. Did daddy call you from the football office and tell you that staffers and players are blowing the whistle on Fedora family on message boards so you better chill?
How about you meet me at the Bowles lot tailgate and say that to my face. It would be embarrassing getting your shit pushed in by a girl.
 
Hahahahahahaha you are a perfect representation of our football program. All sizzle no steak.

And why can’t daddy get you parking at the stadium? They already pulling parking passes and putting his family in the Bowles lot? He keeps losing and you’ll be relegated to park and ride by end of season.
 
Hahahahahahaha you are a perfect representation of our football program. All sizzle no steak.

And why can’t daddy get you parking at the stadium? They already pulling parking passes and putting his family in the Bowles lot? He keeps losing and you’ll be relegated to park and ride by end of season.
As I said. Come on down to Bowles lot and let’s see how brave you are when not hiding behind your keyboard
 
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