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Yeah I agree with your mix of history and recency.

@gunslingerdick to answer your question posed above, let me answer it with more questions. Would you consider Pitt football a blue blood? They have like 12 national champions, but none since the 80s. Would you consider NC State hoops a blue blood? 3 natties and sustained success in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.... but no success since.

Indiana has no recency. They made the Final Four in 1992. Since then, they've made ONE Final Four in 25 seasons, which was in 2002. By the way, that 2002 season is also their last Elite Eight as well. Think about that. Indiana has not made an Elite 8 in 16 years. They've lost their blue blood status.

I actually like @Hark_The_Sound_2010 's call that Villanova is approaching blue blood status. Three natties, and success in multiple decades. For UConn, I feel like they're akin to the Miami Hurricanes in football. Miami football isn't a blue blood (Oklahoma, Alabama, Texas, USC, Ohio State are blue bloods). They're a program that has several natties but only because they have little clusters of great seasons and then can't sustain the momentum because they inevitably get put on sanctions. UConn is kinda the same thing in hoops, IMO.


Read my response to @Hark_The_Sound_2010. You millennials always need numbers and shit. And I like numbers too. But I don't see them as the end-all, be-all. Sometimes you just know and you don't need empirical data to tell you.
 
Read my response to @Hark_The_Sound_2010. You millennials always need numbers and shit. And I like numbers too. But I don't see them as the end-all, be-all. Sometimes you just know and you don't need empirical data to tell you.
I read your poast. I'm totally on board with your "gut feel" approach. It's why I don't consider UConn a blue blood. They just don't "feel" like one. But by that same token, Assembly Hall isn't enough to save Indiana's blue blood status (IMO). Blue blood status can be lost. Moo lost theirs. Indiana's quickly losing theirs if it isn't gone already.
 
I read your poast. I'm totally on board with your "gut feel" approach. It's why I don't consider UConn a blue blood. They just don't "feel" like one. But by that same token, Assembly Hall isn't enough to save Indiana's blue blood status (IMO). Blue blood status can be lost. Moo lost theirs. Indiana's quickly losing theirs if it isn't gone already.

Well, I'm also of the belief that once you have obtained blue blood status, you never relinquish it. It's a badge you keep until the end of days.

There are 6:
UCLA
UK
UNC
duke
Kansas
IU

There are 3 knocking on the door:
Nova
Louisville
UConn
 
It's a little unfair to evaluate a team's blue blood status solely on tournament success. It's a one and done tournament, so wins are never a foregone conclusion no matter who you are - just ask Virginia.

While Indiana hasn't been to the elite 8 since 2002, they have won conference championships in 2013 and 2016. They are still a blue blood in my opinion.
 
thatโ€™s your opinion...maybe @tazki should weigh-in cause he likes to judge threads all the time.

It was Ric Flair for Pete's sake. It's a fact that anything that has to do with Ric Flair is the best of whatever is being discussed. For example, if two guys are arguing over the 2nd amendment and one of them claims that Ric Flair told him that guns were ok, that person is automatically the winner of that debate. You can look all this up. It's in the Geneva Convention.
 
A few thoughts on this thread since I'm late to the party.
  • 90s Bulls have the best sports intro. Nothing else is in the same stratosphere.
  • The Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant is lame and annoying.
  • IU lost their blue blood status over a decade ago. They're not relevant in the least bit.
  • How in Christ's name is UConn knocking on the blue blood door when their team has been total trash since Calhoun left?
 
Well, I'm also of the belief that once you have obtained blue blood status, you never relinquish it. It's a badge you keep until the end of days.

There are 6:
UCLA
UK
UNC
duke
Kansas
IU

There are 3 knocking on the door:
Nova
Louisville
UConn
Apparently being a basketball blue blood also means sucking at football (Louisville's intermittent success notwithstanding).
 
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How in Christ's name is UConn knocking on the blue blood door when their team has been total trash since Calhoun left?
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2014: Yeah, thanks Kemba Walker. Not looking like they're going to have another miracle run like that again any time soon while they're buried in a conference nobody can even name any of the teams of.

Remember last week when you were wrong about something and refused to admit it and then @Raising Heel had to paddle your little behind? Let's not have another episode like that.
 
I'm ok with still referring to Indiana as a blue blood but they are losing their grip on that title more than any of the other teams that I would consider a blue blood due to their lack of success (relative to other blue bloods) in my lifetime.

At this point, when I think Indiana, I basically just think of Dan Dakich acting like he played the greatest game of basketball ever played because Michael had an off night.
 
Indiana is 166-104 (61.5%) overall this decade and 75-69 (52.0%) in conference. Is that bad? That seems bad.
It ain't great.

For the record, I looked up State's records from 2011 to now, they are 159-114 (58.2%) overall and 64-76 (45.7%) in conference. So they are lower than Indiana but not by a ton.
 
It ain't great.

For the record, I looked up State's records from 2011 to now, they are 159-114 (58.2%) overall and 64-76 (45.7%) in conference. So they are lower than Indiana but not by a ton.

3 percentage points and 7 percentage points is substantial.

I acknowledge that IU is a shell of their former selves. But like I said, I believe that once you are a blue blood, you're always one.
 
3 percentage points and 7 percentage points is substantial.

I acknowledge that IU is a shell of their former selves. But like I said, I believe that once you are a blue blood, you're always one.
Yeah, it's not exactly apples to apples, just was using the wuffies as a comparison since we are all pretty much in agreement they aren't a blue blood. I'm in agreement with you that IU is still a blue blood in my book, but if they don't start having some sort of success in the next 5-10 years, then for me, they go from blue blood to "Well, they were good when Bobby Knight was there, but haven't done anything since"
 
Ah so when the argument challenges your established narrative, you wanna bow out. Gotcha :cool:

We're not debating football. So it would have been more appropriate for your snarky comment to have read, "Ahh, so when the discussion is completely changed to another topic, you wanna bow out. Gotcha." To that I would have said, "yes, that is correct."
 
I'm in agreement with you that IU is still a blue blood in my book, but if they don't start having some sort of success in the next 5-10 years, then for me, they go from blue blood to "Well, they were good when Bobby Knight was there, but haven't done anything since"
I'm hoping this is what happens to dook when K leaves. Of course, we run the same risk post-Roy.
 
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I'm hoping this is what happens to dook when K leaves. Of course, we run the same risk post-Roy.

But we've proven several times now that we can have a championship caliber coach leave and we can get another one. duke hasn't proved the same and until they do, it's fair to be skeptical of their ability to stay relevant.
 
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Agreed. Plus any College Football Blue-Blood list that doesn't have Notre Dame on it is fiction anyways.

As you would assume (if you took note of my statement saying the mystique/tradition element in ranking blue bloods is very important to me), Notre Dame is a top 3 all-time college football program for me.

I think it's neat the way you connected discussing the blue bloods of football with the blue bloods of basketball. I'd be happy to share my thoughts on the blue bloods of football.
 
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