Bradley, Berry II, and Pinson all declare w/o agents
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I completely agree. I like Marvin and BWright just fine. Marvin was a big piece of a championship team. BW was less noteworthy but still brought some excitement. But they will never have the same place in my heart that 3 and 4 year guys do. I got to watch the 3 and 4 year guys grow and mature. I saw interviews and read stories about them throughout their time. I got to see their heartfelt message when they spoke on Senior Night. Conventional wisdom leads one to believe that a deeper affinity can be formed through time. Marvin and BW didn't allow for that to happen. I'm not mad at them. They did what they needed to do. Good for them. They just don't mean as much to me as the guys that stayed longer. And if I'm being completely honest, it's weird to me that not everyone see it that way.
That does indeed boggle my mind. But what boggles it more is that the plan in many circumstances is to "get the hell out of there as fast as I can." It's mindboggling and sad. It's sad that people don't value education and it's sad that people don't value the college experience. But whatever...it's their life.
Oh c'mon...don't be ridiculous. That's an inflammatory poast. Of course the impact that each player had on the team factors into how they were viewed. I don't have any Dewey Burke posters on my wall. But you know that's not the point Soap and I are making.
I like Tony Bradley and if he leaves, I'll be happy for him that he reached the NBA. But IMO, he'd be a better player and a better person by staying at least one more year. And when it comes down to it, I simply won't remember much about Tony. He played well early and then fell off substantially. But can anyone point to his impact? When was his big game? Did he hit a timely shot? Did he pull a Luke Maye and dive on the floor for a loose ball scramble to help seal a win in the NCAA tournament? Basically, what I'm asking is this: if you had to make a "Tony Bradley - UNC Highlights" video, how long would it be and what would you put in it?
I would like Tony to return for another year and become one of those players I remember fondly years from now.
Right now he isn't in that class. Good player, and certainly helped us this year. But hasn't made a strong impression yet.
I remember when Jackson Simmons won a tough game for us at FSU when our starters were struggling. Tony is obviously a better player, but will I remember him?
Come on back Tony. Invest in Carolina now that it's your turn to star. You'll enjoy it and you will earn a lot of good will.
oh really? so youre of the opinion we couldve won the whole thing without him? Id love to hear your reasons why. And why am I "following the wrong sport" for believing if you took perhaps our most talented big man (at least nba potential wise)off the roster we dont quite win the whole thing? Id love to hear this.
So here's where I don't get the double standard. Someone points out that Britt has a bad game, and it makes them a doom-and-gloomer and maybe even a closet dookie, but here you go suggesting that we wouldn't have had a problem winning it all without Tony, which in my opinion is a much bigger "bash" on someone who worked hard and contributed all year.
I was looking up career earning for 3 of the guys I mentioned earlier.
- Brendan Wright - 33.7M to date with almost another 6M next season. (#8 overall pick)
- Marvin Williams has currently earned 80.4M with contract to hit 122.7M in 2019-2020 (#2 overall pick)
- Ed Davis - 23.5M with another 6.3M for 2017-1018. (13th overall pick)
You could argue that two of these guys have had pretty quiet NBA careers, but they have still made a load of money in my mind. Granted they were all lottery picks which points to the importance of getting picked in the lottery to maximize NBA earnings.
Tony is looking like might go in the mid 20's for the 2018 draft based off a number of mocks.
Some guys in that range from past drafts:
- Trevor Booker 25M with potential to make 9 M next season. (drafted #23)
- Tiago Splitter 46M (drafted #28)
- Carl Landry 48M (drafted #31)
That is life changing money for generations and I don't see any reason why TB would come back if he is going to go in the first round.
http://www.spotrac.com
- Brendan Wright - 33.7M to date with almost another 6M next season. (#8 overall pick)
- Marvin Williams has currently earned 80.4M with contract to hit 122.7M in 2019-2020 (#2 overall pick)
- Ed Davis - 23.5M with another 6.3M for 2017-1018. (13th overall pick)
You could argue that two of these guys have had pretty quiet NBA careers, but they have still made a load of money in my mind. Granted they were all lottery picks which points to the importance of getting picked in the lottery to maximize NBA earnings.
Tony is looking like might go in the mid 20's for the 2018 draft based off a number of mocks.
Some guys in that range from past drafts:
- Trevor Booker 25M with potential to make 9 M next season. (drafted #23)
- Tiago Splitter 46M (drafted #28)
- Carl Landry 48M (drafted #31)
That is life changing money for generations and I don't see any reason why TB would come back if he is going to go in the first round.
http://www.spotrac.com
He does, and they do. In fact there was a video breakdown earlier this season on a draft site and they referenced him outplaying every NBA prospect PG he came up against.
Yet another reason I assert that he absolutely can become a first-rounder if he returns. I SMH at folks on here acting like he's doomed to be stuck where he is because of measurables. No, he's not gonna get any taller, but the scouts know he has a burst when he needs it. The Carolina pro alums were marveling last summer that JB was just making things look easy against those guys. Selfishly, I almost hope JB doesn't kill it in the combine this time
.For this season, you're right, the Feb. slump and the ankles hurt him, and moreover, this particular draft is loaded and just heavy with PGs, including the prototypes. I would tell folks to look ahead at next year's draftable PG crop --- not even close. JB with a big senior season and Roy's Green Light could put up some big numbers and get himself into that first round.
That's what insurance policies are for. Tony's gonna get paid, now or later, but there's a big difference between lottery and late first-round. As Andrew put it in the front page article, "NBA teams protect the deeper investments".
Yes. Even worse than a bash in my opinion.its flat out ignorant and insulting to Bradley for one.. and me for two as hes suggesting I am watching the wrong sport. This leads to another interesting query- The person telling me that our only first round big man wasnt needed to secure a title is the one saying Im watching the wrong sport-it really probably begs some self reflection on his part about what he thinks he knows about the game of basketball.
The Carolina jersey must be akin to Superman's cape. For some poasters on here as long as a kid has a Carolina jersey on (or the potential to put it on) - he's God's gift to Earth. But as soon as he picks another collegiate jersey to wear, or goes for an NBA jersey at his first opportunity - he was never anything special anyways.
Coaches think it's 50/50 on Bradley. A couple of the other players say he'll come back IF he's not guaranteed to be a LOTTERY pick (not necessarily just first round). Which obviously he SHOULD stay in the draft if he's told that.
All involved believe Berry and Pinson will be back unless something crazy happens in the next 3 weeks.
That is exactly how Bradley SHOULD approach it, and that has been Roy's traditional advice approach in cases like this. Unfortunately that's not the "advice" TB's camp is getting in FL, which likely explains the 50/50 from the coaches.
I made this point earlier too. NBA loves new shiny toys better when it come to big men.
Great post, gun. Pretty much sums up my feelings. I wish nothing but the best for all UNC players, regardless of how long they're at UNC. But I enjoy watching them mature into young men and develop their games. I have more special memories of those who stay longer so they mean a little more to me.
I was one of the ones who said Tony could possibly be OAD. Actually, there were more than a few saying this. Bottom line is this. If you had taken a poll in the preseason and asked posters if they would take a title even if it meant losing Tony/Joel/Theo/JJ, as well as the seniors, 99% of us would have said "yes". And rightfully so, I would question the sanity of the 1% who voted "no". So people should chill out and stop worrying about it. We'll know what we have back within a month.
Exactly. Look, if he can get drafted in the first round and wants to go, he should go. If he's projected as a second round pick, I think it would behoove him to return and have a very good chance of becoming a lottery pick the following draft. But it's his life and his choice. He's represented the university well and I wish him the best regardless.
That's what he should do...but I have a feeling if he gets that 1st round grade he's gone.
Yup. I thought he had an outside chance to be OAD, but I didn't see it really happening. I'm also on record as saying that if we won the championship, I would happily replace the entire team! I am going to either enjoy rebuilding next year with our backups and recruits OR reloading with seasoned veterans added to our backups and recruits! No matter how you slice it, next year will be a fun ride because I will be wearing my Champ Gear AND watching another masterful coaching job by Roy AND contending for the ACC AND possibly a deep run in the tourney!
UNC is back, baby and it is good to be the King! (again)
UNC is back, baby and it is good to be the King! (again)
This...the NBA is about the 2nd contract. Your first 3-4 years is scaled out...if you get into the first round. The 2nd contract is where you get your pay day. If you flame out before the first contract is up, you're screwed.
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