Anyone have any info on his summer progress? Where is he? Just wondering, because i can't find any info. Thanks
Brandon Robinson???
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Not just Brandon, but are all the freshmen playing in the NCCU Summer League with the current guys?
It is kinda funny, Brandan (I have tagged him BRob, I kinda like that, got a feeling it could stick to him) is the forgotten man in this recruiitng class, We all love to discuss Tony and 7th but other than Rush (who only a few seem to even know about), not many folks want to talk about BRob or it they do he is almost an after thought. Even when he committed to us the tenor was kind of "Oh, well ok then"? And for sure, when he committed to us he was more regionally known as opposed to nationally, he was not seen as a real difference maker kind of recruit but more a kid that may be developed, Brice was some what that as well, kinda felt most saw us as settling for the guy as opposed to getting a guy we really wanted.
BRob, all that kid did was go out and have an amazing senior season, not just good but totally off the chain from expectations. You talking about a kid on a near Theo like frame that hit almost 50% of his treys and he took a ton of them. Now I don't care, a kid on a Theo like frame that hits 50% of his treys in an empty gym I would take a look at but a kid that hits them in a game for a season, being guarded, I don;t care what the level of comp is, that is something special. The kid nearly averaged a triple double in that season, again, I don;t care what the competition was, that is something special. 7th didn't do that, Tony didn't do that, tatum/Bam/Giles didn't do that.
Now IDK how much of that can translate in to production for next season but I do know what he did last season is special stuff and I also know I sure wish Theo could shoot like that. As you know, I am calling kenny as our next real factor player at the 2 this season but it would not shock me at all to see BRob emerge from that group as the guy, it would surprise me but not shock cause this kid may have a lot to work on but this kid can jump shoot and after all from your starting 2 guard, is there any more valuable trait than the ability to knock down jump shots?
BRob, all that kid did was go out and have an amazing senior season, not just good but totally off the chain from expectations. You talking about a kid on a near Theo like frame that hit almost 50% of his treys and he took a ton of them. Now I don't care, a kid on a Theo like frame that hits 50% of his treys in an empty gym I would take a look at but a kid that hits them in a game for a season, being guarded, I don;t care what the level of comp is, that is something special. The kid nearly averaged a triple double in that season, again, I don;t care what the competition was, that is something special. 7th didn't do that, Tony didn't do that, tatum/Bam/Giles didn't do that.
Now IDK how much of that can translate in to production for next season but I do know what he did last season is special stuff and I also know I sure wish Theo could shoot like that. As you know, I am calling kenny as our next real factor player at the 2 this season but it would not shock me at all to see BRob emerge from that group as the guy, it would surprise me but not shock cause this kid may have a lot to work on but this kid can jump shoot and after all from your starting 2 guard, is there any more valuable trait than the ability to knock down jump shots?
Like many, his biggest adjustment to college will be physical. He does a lotta things well, but he is still slightly built for his height. He is more of a smooth athlete than an explosive one --- in other words athletically more Justin than Theo. His skills will serve him well though, as will the luxury of developing behind some experienced players as he gains strength and physical maturity. As always the mental adjustments vary by player and remain to be seen. I think he will do well in that area.
Understandable Steat.
But I have a very good feeling about BRob. I have stated more than once that I think he will push Kenny very hard for the SG spot and will not be surprised if he claims it. Kenny's demonstrated defensive abilities will give him the initial edge but he must prove capable of making outside shots in order to claim the lion's share of the SG minutes.
BRob is rail thin, tis true. But he has a high, quick release on his jumper. If you watch is videos, he's not just a catch and shoot guy, but can drain jumpers off the dribble as well. Much like Tony, he had a phenomenal senior year. And I love hearing him talk about earning early PT by playing tough defense. I've heard 7th say much the same thing.
I guess it's pretty obvious that I love this class. I think at least two of the freshmen will play significant roles next year. Most feel Tony will be one who does so out of necessity. BRob could be another.
Yeah, I love this class to arch, IMO right there with our class of Joel, Theo, and JJ. I love that they all seem to have a certain degree of grit about them and they seem really coach-able type of kids rather than over hyped guys that end up head cases.
Where are you pulling your stats from? The only thing I could find on him was from maxpreps, which admittedly isn't always right. The stats on maxpreps show 23 ppg, 5 reb, 4 ast, 2 steals. Great stats nonetheless, but not exactly triple-double stats. I'd be curious though if there are official stats out there that indicate he does indeed have slightly better averages.
The reason I asked is because I too do believe he can be important right away. Like I have said before, I cant wait until one of these freshmen recruits blowup. It happens, just not to us as of late.
From videos only, I agree. I remember immediately trying to find some Kenny Williams videos when he committed to us and I of course followed the recruitment of BRob (not sure I'm giving Dave credit on the nickname). From what I saw, Robinson has a much better shot. as you pointed out, I too saw that it was quick, high and he shoots it off the dribble. And what I like most is it's the exact same every time. Again, from videos only, I come away with the feeling that Robinson is a couple notches better as a shooter than Williams. I guess we'll see.
Theo will not be on the bench. Also this will be his first full summer without injury. He was coming off injury last year. Expect a big jump in his game.
Last summer some was saying Joel berry shouldn't start. He proved a lot of people wrong.
Last summer some was saying Joel berry shouldn't start. He proved a lot of people wrong.
On IC they had a poster that shared stats after each game for ALL of our commits that were updated every week during their last season. I noticed how many of his games where he nearly had triple doubles, you can't look at season stats and see that because a couple games where the assists or rebounds were not what he usually got and the stats skew. But the thing I watched was the game by game more so than the compiled for the whole season.
You said he nearly averaged a triple-double. I imagine every HS player in America averaging double figures, 5+ rebounds, and 4+ assists comes close to an occasional triple double. There's a big difference between those stats and Denzel Valentine/Kyle Collinsworth type numbers.
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He didn't prove anyone wrong. The only question was whether Marcus should start at PG - not whether Joel was ready. He had already proved that. But with Marcus back to health and in his senior year, Roy might have chosen to hand him the reins. He didn't and Joel proved what we all already knew.
Theo, by contrast, still hasn't proved he should start. I think we may be strongest if he does start, but he has some work to do to get there. Being injury free this summer may be what he needs. We'll see.
I was mostly interested if there was another site other than maxpreps that consistently lists stats, specifically shooting percentages. I have found that maxpreps isn't a complete record of official stats - so I was curious if DSouthr knew of another site with more accurate numbers available.. I only included my last post because DS had some inconsistencies with his statements; misleading numbers are bothersome to me as I'm an accountant by trade. Yes, my issue was rather pedantic. Does it really matter? No, it doesn't. I'm just one who likes to dig a little deeper into numbers because there's a lot of telling information in there.
I will give you an example of some old high school stats that I found to be rather curious... Austin Rivers averaged 29 ppg and 2 assists in his senior year at Winter Park. That was a red-flag for me because someone that scores that often and has the ball in his hands with such regularity - he should have considerably more assists simply by passing when he's double and triple teamed. Kobe and Iverson were often regarded as ball hogs and yet they consistently averaged 5+ assists per game. So yes, I wasn't sold on Rivers as much as others were... he's a great player, but ball stoppers can hurt the rhythm/flow of a team.
Look boss, I told you where I got the info that framed my opinion, I was not looking at that info, matter of fact have not since the season ended. I really don't care what you think of what I said, it was not intended for you in the first place. Kid had some games he battled some injury but none the less, in a good number of the games he played he flirted with triple doubles.
You say you wanted to know if what I said was based on some site that gave better info than max preps, I told you what I based it on was not from such a site, why the need to continue? Then to go in to some nonsense try to explain concerning Austin Rivers, like we care about Austin Rivers, like we care if Austin Rivers high school stats may or may not have reflected the player that you guy got for that 1 season?
You want to reflect on Austin Rivers then take it some one place that cares, if you want to pick nits then pickem some place else, because the point in what I was making is Brandan will be a heck of a talent for us. Now do you want to dispute that, will be glad to argue...
I'm excited by each of these three kids. To me the only question is which of the three will be ready the quickest because they all have the talent and attitude to excel! BRob's shooting will get him some court time, but his D will determine how many minutes. I expect at least 2 of them to contribute significantly, Tony and one other. I expect all of them to be major contributors within 2 seasons!
I'm thrilled we have a thread that has stayed on the rails!
I'm thrilled we have a thread that has stayed on the rails!
So you didn't want to discuss Brandon Robinson, the topic of this thread at all? If all you wanted to do was pick a negative nit then why bother in the first place?
Now back to the topic of this thread, the fine young freshman player we have playing for us next season BRob !
I don't foresee him have any problem getting his shot off in college, for this reason. And he can make it off the dribble as well as just catching and shooting. Kenny has to prove he can make some perimeter shots if he's going to hold BRob off, IMO.
We have great comp at all the wing positions and that is a very good thing as it will push them in practice and make all of them better. I think Tony is going to push Kennedy as well.
Plenty of depth at the wing for years to come. Roy's done a superb job stocking the shelves on aisles 2 & 3, he now needs to concentrate on aisles 4 and 5..
And though I'd like to see Theo start at #2 this season, I'd also be happy if it was either BRob or KWill. As you say Arch' the practices are going to be intense!
And though I'd like to see Theo start at #2 this season, I'd also be happy if it was either BRob or KWill. As you say Arch' the practices are going to be intense!
And that only bodes well, Oz.
And much like our football team needs DL's, our basketball team needs bigs. I think they're forthcoming.
And much like our football team needs DL's, our basketball team needs bigs. I think they're forthcoming.
Yeah, there are going to be some intense position battles this season, the 2 guard spot IMO will be high level competition for who starts and who gets minutes. I agree, Tony could push Meeks hard to retain his starting spot and don't discount Theo pushing JJ hard for minutes at the wing spot and Brob could have some say there as well. If Hicks doesn't get his foul problems solved could Theo make a push to be our starting 4? We saw how well we played in our small ball look at the end of last season and thru the NCAAT.
Being honest, I don't see more than 2 locked in starters for next season and actually in reality maybe only 1. Joel berry IMO is with out question our starter at the point, no discussion needed. Justin IMO is pretty close to being a lock at the wing but IMO there is a chance if Theo were to hone in a jump shot this off season that he could give Justin a run at that starting wing spot. I am not expecting that but have to acknowledge a slight chance. I think everyone else should have to battle for the right to start and/or starter minutes (to me more important than who begins the game).
And Luke Maye, what can he do, can he hold down minutes at the 4, maybe as a stretch 4? Kid works hard, how much will he improve over this off season?
Was this his Jr. season? I only ask cause the stat lines on IC show him with 1 double-double and being "close" to a triple double twice at best. So yes, 7th, Tony and the rest DID do that. In fact Jalek had 2 triple-doubles last season.
I know you like the kid and have no problem with the rest of the things you wrote about him but you don't have to make things up. It takes away from the rest of the post.
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He had 12 games with 7 or more rbs and 7 games with 7 or more assists. These do include tourney games. Hes not making things up. Several games with minimal mins due to blow out and a few to injury. Keep up with your own board and we will do the same.
His numbers were plenty good without padding them. I think he's going to be a very good college player. TBH, I'm expecting more from him than I am from Kenny. I hope last season's shooting woes were an aberration and that Kenny shoots much better next year. I feel good knowing we have five guys who could play SG in a pinch: Nate, Theo, Kenny, BRob, and 8th. Six if you count Stilman.
Someone will emerge as the season progresses and Roy tinkers with combinations.
Someone will emerge as the season progresses and Roy tinkers with combinations.
never mind, lets get back to talking about the kid and not some dukies opinion of one slice out of a paragraph.
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Wow that would be a shocker to me. But hey its a critical position this season more than most.
And 2 games where he had 7 rbs and 7asts at the same time or "close to a triple double".
Since I'm a heel fan I thought I was keeping up my own board.
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