I know another poster co-opted your customary analysis thread title, but I hope you'll deliver your usual post-game assessment for us. I'm sure I'm not the only one who looks forward to your takes.
Calling @Gary-7
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He’s trying to figure out a way to explain Jalen Washington is starter quality for North Carolina.
Some of us are wondering if Hubert will commit to JWash playing the 4 for a couple of games. Give it a chance. We have some "gentle" games ahead. If he's ever going to try that, this is the window for it.
Some of us are also wondering why we don't run more alley-oop plays, where JWash is one of several obvious targets (along with Seth, Ian, Drake and JWit).
But, yeah, it sure looks like Hubert no longer trusts JWash, and has no interest in running the experiment with him as stretch 4.
The answer to a disastrous season likely isn't Jalen Washington centric. The issues are probably far bigger than him.
Thir offense isn't great and it's very inconsistent. But their biggest issue is they cannot defend at all. And moving Washington to the 4 probably doesn't solve their defensive issues.
This team is much better than I think it is if Jalen Washington is the answer to their problems.
Some of Garys take on Washington, need we say more. His evaluation of talent is as bad as this pitiful staffs.
Holy cow. He actually said Wash is better than Deon??
And Cadeau is a generational talent. Platek is better than Coby. Etc etc.
His posts are just best taken as entertainment and not informational.
It’s up there but the Coby and Platek was at the top of my list…
So glad Gary ain’t our coach! Or wait maybe he’d fit right in lol
I have been and remain a very strong believer that JWash is or at least should be a strong key for this team. I am in no way looking to hide my position on this or avoid those that do not agree. In fact I may be even more so than gary but in any event, gary is not the only one saying this.
I'm not absolved from the cold take. I was high on Cade Tyson and what he could bring to this team. I guess technically, he can still be an important player on this team. But after what he showed on film, I quickly changed my opinion on the type of player he's going to be here. And that's coming from someone who's pretty partial towards 3PT shooters.
I just find it odd that there seems to be more of a feverish support of Washington and Cadeau for those who think they're really good. I can only go off what the players show on film. Washington hasn't really shown anything in 2+ seasons now to support he can handle a larger responsibility on this team. And Cadeau has shown on film that he's a talented, but an erratic and inconsistent PG. He's also shown thus far on film to be a 0 shooter.
I just find it odd that there seems to be more of a feverish support of Washington and Cadeau for those who think they're really good. I can only go off what the players show on film. Washington hasn't really shown anything in 2+ seasons now to support he can handle a larger responsibility on this team. And Cadeau has shown on film that he's a talented, but an erratic and inconsistent PG. He's also shown thus far on film to be a 0 shooter.
the fact that people actually look forward to reading Gary’s bullshit after each game knowing how bad his takes have been on our personnel is mind boggling. from generational PG’s to guys who are the worst big men in the history of our program being better than guys who won natty’s for us, i simply have no time for nonsense and bullshit any more. from gary, hubert, etc. 😂
i’ll never forget Gary’s take on Platek being a great PG, despite one of the worst +/- seasons in history. toss in the stat be created around missed assists. literally can’t make it up.
I've admitted that I've had some clunkers too. But my favorite was Gary responding to this after UNC beat like a 2-80 Louisville team in Caleb Love's last year.
Response:1. Dunn and Styles can be All-ACC guys if given the playing time
2. Hubert did the same thing to Puff at Pitt.
3. If we get fully healthy by mid February we will be the best team in America.
Thinking UNC could get back to being the best team in the country after beating a 2-80 Louisville team. Quite a take.
or how about the stat he created for blown assists (when a scorer misses a shot he deemed should have been a make thus not leading to an assist for the passer), and then somebody actually had the time and checked him on his created stat and it was not even close 😂😂😂. gotta love Gary. he truly believes the shit he says. he will
stay the course and die on the hill every time. i can at least respect that.
stay the course and die on the hill every time. i can at least respect that.
I think the blown assist stat is a great idea. I get why it isn't reported, but it's a good measure of how well a player tries to get the ball to his teammates. That's worth recognizing.
I've had the occasional disagreement with @gary-7, but the vast majority of the time I greatly appreciate his analyses and explanations.
Stop it…Its not a real stat….Its like the pressure on the QB stat in Football now….If you don’t get the sack who cares….Its BS…
Just posted, thanks.
I'll ignore the jackassery of those can't come up with an original thought...
Hey Gary I’d like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think your worth!
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There has never been and will never be a world where Washington should be a starter for any UNC team.
Blown assists. But Platek could do spacing like a pro 😂
We can agree and disagree about the strengths and weaknesses of the players on our roster. Putting that aside, I for one, appreciate gary-7 taking the time to break down film about the technical aspect of our games-I learn a lot about the game and our team. I’ve noticed that our kids have not quit, and play their butts off. I really loved when we hard fouled the Louisville player who tried to score as the clock hit zero .(as long as he wasn’t hurt) It showed pride and fire and that losing hurts. I will never root against The Heels. I will never quit on them. I recognize that we have to coach better and play better . Our roster is what it is. We have to utilize our post- period! Our coach must make that commitment to play to our strengths which is our athleticism in the back court. I appreciate the posters on this board. Posters here know their basketball and are passionate about our beloved Heels. Disagreements here are encouraged-attacking one another takes away from our dialogue. I am disappointed in the coaching this year- most on here are wondering why hire in the family when who we hire runs nothing that looks like “The Carolina Way”! Coach Smith’s principles stand the test of time. Couple that with Roy’s principles, and you have a front row seat to learn from the best. Coach Davis would be wise to go back to the “Carolina Way”. Just my humble opinion here. As always, Go Heels!!
Very well said…
Unfortunately, watching bad basketball brings out the worst in our fans… saw it in the 8-20 year, also for a couple of seasons about a decade ago.
We all just don’t want to see UNC go the way of Indiana and UCLA, and seasons like this one scare the daylights out of us.
still not a good reason to turn on each other.
Back in the day, Dean Smith ( I believe Roy did this as well) began assigning what he termed "Carolina Assists" that rarely agreed with the "official" box score. He looked at it this way because really, in an assist there are 2 parts, the passer and the catcher. All the passer can do is pass the ball, it is the guy that catches the ball job to finish. As long as the passer made the right pass Dean felt he executed his role in what should be an assist no mater if the guy that caught it did not finish. Will also add, if it was a bad pass but the guy that caught it finished anyway that would not be a "Carolina" assist to Dean.
So gary re-packages that, adds the tag line "blown assist" and according to this thread he commits the unforgivable sin of sharing his opinion? I get it, really do, most of this is posters that simply do not like gary at all, it isn't about his opinions, it is his style that draws such anger. Gary says things all the time I don't agree with but gary does offer a view that I find interesting to consider, even if I don't agree. And, there are many times I totally agree with gary's opinion, it simply for me depends of what we are discussing in that moment. I credit him even if I don't agree for is actually publicly saying what he thinks. To often folks seem to need to be critical of other people's opinion yet they don't seem willing to express their own opinion for the public to digest? Why is that?
Bro, he said if a point guard passed to an open person on the perimeter that was 18% from 3, and they missed it that it was a blown assist. Literally blow assist meant to him any shot taken that was taken after passed to.
This is not a realistic angle to take as these shots are not high percentage, and in many times, the passes didn't put the player in a good position to even score yet was counted as a blown assist to him.
You had to be there to understand it.
I don't mind the blown assists. I've seen NBA stat guys track blown layups and that affects a player's assist totals.
I would ask if Gary then tracks more of the emptier assists where Player A makes a pass to Player B, but Player B makes a really tough contested jumper and Player A gets credit for the assist. Or if Player A throws a really inaccurate lob pass and Player B makes an outstanding athletic recovery to finish the play and Player A gets credit for the assist. Or if Player A makes an inaccurate pass to Player B forcing player B to make an escape dribble, then makes a jumper and Player A still gets credit for the assist.
Also, should an assisted 3 be more valuable than an assisted 2? What about assists that lead to a conventional 3PT play opportunity? What about great passes that lead to a drawn shooting foul? And on the opposite side, what if Player A makes a late pass to Player B and essentially causes Player B to commit an offensive foul? Player A will never get blamed for that pass.
I guess I don't follow some of these tracked stats from Gary all that closely. If he does pick and choose certain numbers to support his pro-Cadeau argument. I hope there is some nuance behind that when he also makes bad plays that don't show up in the box score too.
It wasn't Cadeau he did this with. I forget who it was. He would be like he had 5 assists but a whopping 20 other blown assists today. (Every missed shot taken after the pass to them by the player).
You guys ragging on @gary-7 about defending Wash is pretty lame. If you put Toyo off road tires on a Tesla model S you'd prolly think it was a crappy riding and driving car. Not much difference here. Wash is still a young player physically but he has crazy length and a great stroke. Problem is he seldom gets an opportunity to touch the ball anywhere near the lane unless it's to set a screen and there are very few if any plays designed for him to shoot anywhere. But the thing your missing is almost everyone on this team looks out of place and dysfunctional in games .. including the head coach which is where my true beef is. jmo
