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You guys ragging on @gary-7 about defending Wash is pretty lame. If you put Toyo off road tires on a Tesla model S you'd prolly think it was a crappy riding and driving car. Not much difference here. Wash is still a young player physically but he has crazy length and a great stroke. Problem is he seldom gets an opportunity to touch the ball anywhere near the lane unless it's to set a screen and there are very few if any plays designed for him to shoot anywhere. But the thing your missing is almost everyone on this team looks out of place and dysfunctional in games .. including the head coach which is where my true beef is. jmo
Man no doubt. Great last two sentences.
 
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You guys ragging on @gary-7 about defending Wash is pretty lame. If you put Toyo off road tires on a Tesla model S you'd prolly think it was a crappy riding and driving car. Not much difference here. Wash is still a young player physically but he has crazy length and a great stroke. Problem is he seldom gets an opportunity to touch the ball anywhere near the lane unless it's to set a screen and there are very few if any plays designed for him to shoot anywhere. But the thing your missing is almost everyone on this team looks out of place and dysfunctional in games .. including the head coach which is where my true beef is. jmo
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You guys ragging on @gary-7 about defending Wash is pretty lame. If you put Toyo off road tires on a Tesla model S you'd prolly think it was a crappy riding and driving car. Not much difference here. Wash is still a young player physically but he has crazy length and a great stroke. Problem is he seldom gets an opportunity to touch the ball anywhere near the lane unless it's to set a screen and there are very few if any plays designed for him to shoot anywhere. But the thing your missing is almost everyone on this team looks out of place and dysfunctional in games .. including the head coach which is where my true beef is. jmo
It's just a little friendly ribbing, maybe it wouldn't have the luster, if when someone disagreed with his stance if he would man up and discuss it, but that's not his style he would rather talk down to posters that disagree and belittle them. But he was wrong, about Washington, EC, and Hubert and now we all see that.

So if he's reading "I told you so"
 
It wasn't Cadeau he did this with. I forget who it was. He would be like he had 5 assists but a whopping 20 other blown assists today. (Every missed shot taken after the pass to them by the player).
Joel Berry. Probably andrew platek too. Now ec. But never any other non- favorite player
 
My goodness--what vitriol! I am one of those who enjoy reading Gary's "BS" after each game. Some of it I take with a grain of salt, such as his love of EC, but I enjoy his analysis of each game. For those on here who don't like him, just don't read his posts!
 
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You guys ragging on @gary-7 about defending Wash is pretty lame. If you put Toyo off road tires on a Tesla model S you'd prolly think it was a crappy riding and driving car. Not much difference here. Wash is still a young player physically but he has crazy length and a great stroke. Problem is he seldom gets an opportunity to touch the ball anywhere near the lane unless it's to set a screen and there are very few if any plays designed for him to shoot anywhere. But the thing your missing is almost everyone on this team looks out of place and dysfunctional in games .. including the head coach which is where my true beef is. jmo
I have read Gary's write ups after the games and he is usually very accurate about what Carolina needs to do to improve. Have been involved in bball for 30+ years and this offense we are running is horrible. There is no movement, no post threat and too much dribbling the clock out. Defense seems not to talk to each other and there is no need to switch on screens, fight thru them. Just my 2 cents..
 
The difference with Gary is he doesn’t see things as a fan but as a coach. For example a terrible possession that ends in a bad shot (think Caleb since you guys don’t see RJ that way yet) that goes in. Gary sees that as fools gold where the midwit fan and most on this board see success. You can disagree with him if you like but if you use a stat to make a point without going deeper you aren’t even speaking the same language.
 
The difference with Gary is he doesn’t see things as a fan but as a coach. For example a terrible possession that ends in a bad shot (think Caleb since you guys don’t see RJ that way yet) that goes in. Gary sees that as fools gold where the midwit fan and most on this board see success. You can disagree with him if you like but if you use a stat to make a point without going deeper you aren’t even speaking the same language.
Yeah, I call those bad shots with good results, they do tend to be fool's gold because a bad shot is a bad shot, if you have to win many games hoping and wishing bad shots fall you are already beaten. In the same light, if you depend on inefficient players to win games for you the end has already been written, you just failed to read it.
 
For example a terrible possession that ends in a bad shot (think Caleb since you guys don’t see RJ that way yet) that goes in.
The theory was that with a real PG and RJ playing most of his minutes at SG, RJ would be getting the ball a lot for open looks, and wouldn't have to work so hard to create his own shot.

That doesn't seem to be the case.

Last year RJ was great. He also had guys on the floor with him who weren't afraid to shoot.

It's not clear to me that RJ is any better at hitting the open shot than from creating his own, but even if he is, that doesn't seem to be happening.
 
G-7 is one of the best things about this site! I happen to disagree with many of his takes as well, but I also acknowledge his depth of understanding of the game! Many of the peeps on here who spend time denigrating what he has to say, actually never contribute anything themselves worth reading so there's that! I spent a great deal of time arguing about the greatness of JB, but I never once thought to attack G because he thought differently! Eventually, I came around and now regard JB in the pantheon of great college PGs from UNC. He can be abrasive in some of his responses, but mostly that is aimed at those who snipe without any original thoughts or evidence to back their claims! EC is special but this does not mean perfect. He needs to man up and stop letting physicality unsettle him. He needs to tighten up the TOs, make some simpler entry passes, and he needs to score more but he does have that "IT" factor!

It must suck to never feel joy in anything in life, but it appears some feel that way!

There is a difference between bashing and critique and you can't hide attacks behind the veneer of objectivity!

The worst part of this season is not coaching or wins/losses; it is the fact that UNC fans used to be different and now we are becoming common! Congratulations, you contributed to the destruction of ideals held for over 75 years and must be so proud of your accomplishments! I know you must be happy to finally "rise" to the level of Moo, Kentuk, and puke fans-what a wonderful era to be alive! I know many of you are closet trolls and this is exactly what was planned (Nathan Sdung) but I didn't think it could actually work!

BTW DES (never faced it) AND Roy, Ratty, Larranaga, Boeheim, and almost all other great coaches quit because of this new era-Which of them faced a game with this much change in their 1st three years??? Slimy and Selfish are still going but Izzo seems on his last legs too.

The cycle of this site is swiftly running its course IMO. I left TOS because of the clicks and the relentless negativity. I guess I'll wait until someone creates another niche site for UNC Family to support the Heels and discuss bball so I can go back to what I love! I have limited myself to the prediction threads and those G-7 writeups after wins but even discussing a win we have to harp on all the negatives, priceless!

Let me know if any of you encounter such a site because I will move in a heartbeat to avoid the circle of negative Nancys that love to spit on what I love!
 
G-7 is one of the best things about this site! I happen to disagree with many of his takes as well, but I also acknowledge his depth of understanding of the game! Many of the peeps on here who spend time denigrating what he has to say, actually never contribute anything themselves worth reading so there's that! I spent a great deal of time arguing about the greatness of JB, but I never once thought to attack G because he thought differently! Eventually, I came around and now regard JB in the pantheon of great college PGs from UNC. He can be abrasive in some of his responses, but mostly that is aimed at those who snipe without any original thoughts or evidence to back their claims! EC is special but this does not mean perfect. He needs to man up and stop letting physicality unsettle him. He needs to tighten up the TOs, make some simpler entry passes, and he needs to score more but he does have that "IT" factor!

It must suck to never feel joy in anything in life, but it appears some feel that way!

There is a difference between bashing and critique and you can't hide attacks behind the veneer of objectivity!

The worst part of this season is not coaching or wins/losses; it is the fact that UNC fans used to be different and now we are becoming common! Congratulations, you contributed to the destruction of ideals held for over 75 years and must be so proud of your accomplishments! I know you must be happy to finally "rise" to the level of Moo, Kentuk, and puke fans-what a wonderful era to be alive! I know many of you are closet trolls and this is exactly what was planned (Nathan Sdung) but I didn't think it could actually work!

BTW DES (never faced it) AND Roy, Ratty, Larranaga, Boeheim, and almost all other great coaches quit because of this new era-Which of them faced a game with this much change in their 1st three years??? Slimy and Selfish are still going but Izzo seems on his last legs too.

The cycle of this site is swiftly running its course IMO. I left TOS because of the clicks and the relentless negativity. I guess I'll wait until someone creates another niche site for UNC Family to support the Heels and discuss bball so I can go back to what I love! I have limited myself to the prediction threads and those G-7 writeups after wins but even discussing a win we have to harp on all the negatives, priceless!

Let me know if any of you encounter such a site because I will move in a heartbeat to avoid the circle of negative Nancys that love to spit on what I love!
I guess I'll bite and respond because you specifically pointed me out. I don't see how I'm a troll. I'm a fan of UNC basketball and I present my opinions here. The recent quality of UNC basketball has been pretty poor relative to their standards. For me, at the end of the day, they keep score for a reason. So my reaction to the program as a fan will be connected to how they perform on the floor.

I can't comment on NC State, Kentucky, or Duke. I don't follow their programs closely. More importantly, I really don't care about their programs unless it's a more macro sense of how their programs affect UNC basketball. I have no earthly idea what "plan" I had either, lol.

I like this board. It has a good balance of really optimistic fans like yourself. It has fans that are on the very pessimistic side (which I don't think I am). And it has fans like me that are somewhere in between. It's a nice, diverse fanbase and that's why the arguments are passionate and people will passionately defend themselves and at times it may go over the line. Welcome to the irrational world of sports fandom.

And for Gary specifically. I respect that he puts his opinions out there for everyone to see. That's great. But that will be met with resistance from people that disagree with him and then people like you will defend him. That sounds a lot like sports fandom to me. But credit to Gary for putting his opinions out there. If this board suddenly lost all of that, then there would be no point for this gathering of opinions. Gary may have hit on his Joel Berry take. He missed on his Platek take (I personally don't remember what it was). And he swung really big with Cadeau when he called him generational and right now, Cadeau has a long way to go. So people will let him know about it. In general, I don't see what's wrong with that.

I will also point out the humor of fans ripping other fans for crossing the line or being offensive or whatnot while comparing a user's name to feces. It's just kind of funny to me. But you do you.

Appreciate you.
 
Hey Gary I’d like to buy you for what your worth and sell you for what you think your worth!

I’d like to buy you for the value of your basketball knowledge & sell you for the value of Gary’s basketball knowledge. Set for life money. Looking forward to your breakdown one day of the defenses we play, the lack of a secondary break, & inside recruiting info, etc. Oh wait, you have no idea.
 
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