Chris Wallace and FoxNews exposing Trump lies
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I don't doubt he's wrong, as I didn't watch, but Chris Wallace is in my top five of people I would like to punch in the face.
The notion that we shouldn’t do everything possible to close the southern border is beyond debate for me. It doesn’t matter if there is credible evidence of terrorist crossing the border or not. The bottom line is that we should do everything possible to make sure people enter the country legally.
How would you rank the following issues in order of importance
- healthcare
- spending
- immigration
- war on terror
- economy
- environment
- trade
- poverty/homelessness
I’m not ranking those issues on importance.
The OP was referencing immigration so I spoke to that. But as you know, immigration is important to me. Very important. I’ve said before that I don’t want to just end illegal immigration but legal immigration as well. 10 years of no one new coming in. And frankly, I’d be for kicking out 100 million people as long as I’m one that can stay. We simply cannot support our current population.
If there are less people coming in, that lowers the chances of terrorists coming in.
If there are less people coming in, that’s less people that need healthcare.
If there are less people coming in, that’s less people in poverty and less homeless.
You and I share a lot of beliefs but this is not one of them.
Why ya gotta pick on Say-ruh!?!?!?
We need a sky-wall and a sea-wall, too!
We need a sky-wall and a sea-wall, too!
4000 thwarted acts of terrorism in 2017 according to state dept. NOT ONE originated with someone crossing the mexican border.
People on here are more informed on this subject than me, I'm sure....
and maybe I am just gullible to what stories some media outlets push....
but what bothers me most is when you hear about cops, or normal citizens being slaughtered, gunned down, etc. by illiegal immigrants who have been arrested and deported several times, but came back....
and are protected via sanctuary cities, and no enforcement of laws re: people hiring illegal immigrants, visa overstays, etc.
...and the impacts on these victims' families, that seems could be avoided. And yes, I get that legal citizens do these crimes, too. But when we can't ship back someone who has been arrested several times, and keep them on the Mexican side of the border....as a parent or loved one of the victim, this would enrage me.
Someon on this board said hiring practices / laws & enforcement, and sanctuary cities are as large a part of the problem to be solved, vs. the law alone. I do agree these are the larger items to address. Nobody from either party wants to stem the flow of cheap labor to US though - and look at the unemployment rate. An argument could be made that there aren't enough people to do the jobs that are currently available, but these jobs should be filled with legal immigration.
I have a hard time believing some sort of wall or fencing isn't part of the solution. If walls were futile and ineffective, why would any walls exist around personal homes, the White House, prisons, between countries, etc?
I do not support the idea of “sanctuary cities”. I believe if someone is here illegally they should be deported. I believe illegals should not be eligible for employment or “free stuff”. I also think the benefits of a wall do not outweigh the cost. These are all opinions subject to change as new data becomes available.
These two sentences are illogical together.
I don't disagree with you that our southern border needs to be protected but saying "there's no evidence but we should act as though there is" can usually be a pretty shitty way to handle issues of all kinds.
So if a terrorist would be stopped by a wall whats to keep him from flying to canada and walking across there?
Because Donald Trump told me that all terrorists are brown and come from brown countries and only enter when coming directly from a brown country.
Don't you listen to anything our infallible ruler says, er, tweets?
The story is Trump's campaign staff gave used the idea of building a wall to help him keep on topic about illegal immigration. During a campaign speech, he riffed with it and thus, the Wall was born. His base ate it up.
Your best post since the name (and possible sex) change.
It's so nice to see these ancient, life-long political parasites acting as if one side is being reasonable and the other isn't. They perpetuate the illusion in order to keep their fat faces at the trough.
Now that’s a good poast. Well, it’s not. But it’s better than all the whiny, crybaby, anti-Trump shit that’s mostly been poasted here.
Let’s just hope the terrorists don’t figure out how to use ladders. And forget the tunnels and caves all along the border.
Because who the hell wants to go to Canada? Even a guy willing to blow himself up doesn't want to go through that hell.
You've obviously never been to a Montreal strip club.
Fun fact: Terrorists are 4000 times more likely to enter us by means other than walking across the mexican border
I'm generally not a stickler for grammar, but this is one of those times it proves important.
But we should act like they do and fear monger on Fox News because Donald Trump says so.
I'll partially bite.
Economy/spending is at the top. Healthcare used to be much lower pre-"Affordable" Care Act, but is now higher due to needing to fix that. War on Terror and Immigration are somewhere in the middle, and poverty/homelessness is at the bottom.
Whoops, ya that's in the middle there with immigration and war on terror. But below spending, and above homelessness.
Essentially, if we have to spend significantly and negatively affect the economy to help the environment... no go. If we have to dick over some homeless guy to help the environment...I'm in.
Legit question - the wall was a crisis of this magnitude, wtf was he doing for the last 2 years?
I definitely think some of the environmental regs have gotten way too stringent, but I would prefer to err on the side or doing too much vs too little.
Overall, you and I pretty much align on priorities.
I think all of the investigations (Russia, Daniels, etc.) have taken up a lot of his time. As well as having to find replacement cabinet members weekly. Probably hasn't had a lot of time to do much else.
Which is probably for the best. The less he does, the better it is for the rest of us.
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