He will help the Tarheels alot next season with his pure shooting .
Ryan shoots significantly better off catch-and-shoot than off the dribble. This past season, with his coach quitting and the team mailing it in, he found himself doing way too much off the dribble. That's why his shooting % dropped.I think he'll help us a lot, but there's no guarantee he'll be a "pure shooter" for us. He's been a high-volume 3PT shooter for 4 college seasons. NCAA average last year was around 33.7% from 3PT.
FR: 31.6%
SO: 34.4%
JR: 40.7%
SR: 34.4%
It was a similar question with Pete Nance last year. Is he a 30% 3PT shooter like he was as a FR/SO? Or is he a 45% 3PT shooter like he was as a SR? Turns out it was much closer to 30% than 45%.
I think Ryan is a much better and more natural shooter so I think an elite 40% is in play. But he's a career 35% 3PT shooter, so don't be surprised if it's around there. Which is solid, but not great.
I’m in full agreement.His toughness and work ethic are equally important to UNC as his shooting! I think he will shoot well because he will get more clean looks. That is the difference I saw in his shooting numbers.
Well I hope he's a better catch-and-shoot 3PT shooter. I'm pretty sure every player in college or pro basketball is better in catch-and-shoot situations.Ryan shoots significantly better off catch-and-shoot than off the dribble. This past season, with his coach quitting and the team mailing it in, he found himself doing way too much off the dribble. That's why his shooting % dropped.
Ryan is not going to take the very high volume of shots that Caleb took. It is one thing to be a 30% shooter taking 10 shots, means you miss 7 shots. But a 30% shooter that takes on the regular 20+ shots a game, at 20 that means he missed 14 shots which allows for far more defensive rebounds and a lot of those could be run outs off long treys that usually provide long rebounds.Well I hope he's a better catch-and-shoot 3PT shooter. I'm pretty sure every player in college or pro basketball is better in catch-and-shoot situations.
And my point isn't really a criticism of Ryan. I think he's a good shooter and will shoot a good percentage. I'm just holding my expectations that he'll be a dead-eye shooter.
But even if Ryan is like a 34% 3PT shooter, I think he will help us a lot. But he could be someone that truly raises our ceiling to something serious if he is in the 40% range. A high volume 40% 3PT shooter.... I'll dream about it.
I didn’t know it was even possible to shoot as much as Caleb did.Ryan is not going to take the very high volume of shots that Caleb took. It is one thing to be a 30% shooter taking 10 shots, means you miss 7 shots. But a 30% shooter that takes on the regular 20+ shots a game, at 20 that means he missed 14 shots which allows for far more defensive rebounds and a lot of those could be run outs off long treys that usually provide long rebounds.
Caleb played 1 more game than Cormac Ryan did last season . . . and took 149 more shots.I didn’t know it was even possible to shoot as much as Caleb did.
Ryan will not be asked to create like Caleb either. Will not be a focus on offense. Role player compared to make something happen late in the clock guy. Totally different roles.Ryan is not going to take the very high volume of shots that Caleb took. It is one thing to be a 30% shooter taking 10 shots, means you miss 7 shots. But a 30% shooter that takes on the regular 20+ shots a game, at 20 that means he missed 14 shots which allows for far more defensive rebounds and a lot of those could be run outs off long treys that usually provide long rebounds.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Ryan will be asked to do what Caleb did last year. But I do think he will be a late shot clock primary option for us. He’s got some size, some wiggle and and a quick release.Ryan will not be asked to create like Caleb either. Will not be a focus on offense. Role player compared to make something happen late in the clock guy. Totally different roles.
Know what Caleb created most? He created a huge number of missed shots, I have not looked but maybe someone else wants to, I wonder where Caleb falls in the list of all time Tar Heels for missed shots in just his 3years with us, for that matter wonder where he falls in the all time missed shots for the entire NCAA? Yeah, Caleb created a lot of things for sure, I do recall very clearly he hitting big shots at the end of 2 very specific games against duke ending both K's career at Cameron with a loss and ending his career with a loss, for sure good times, I also recall his 5 for 26 in a natty game that we lost while being up big at the half, funny how 1 guy going 5 for 26 usually ends up with his team creating a loss rather than a win.Ryan will not be asked to create like Caleb either. Will not be a focus on offense. Role player compared to make something happen late in the clock guy. Totally different roles.
Know what Caleb created most? He created a huge number of missed shots, I have not looked but maybe someone else wants to, I wonder where Caleb falls in the list of all time Tar Heels for missed shots in just his 3years with us, for that matter wonder where he falls in the all time missed shots for the entire NCAA? Yeah, Caleb created a lot of things for sure, I do recall very clearly he hitting big shots at the end of 2 very specific games against duke ending both K's career at Cameron with a loss and ending his career with a loss, for sure good times, I also recall his 5 for 26 in a natty game that we lost while being up big at the half, funny how 1 guy going 5 for 26 usually ends up with his team creating a loss rather than a win.
So yeah, we can for sure talk about what Caleb created but how about we not excuse it as his being forced to take all those bad shots because he was ONLY getting the ball when the shot clock was near zero, that sounds nice but it just isn't accurate, he shot most of those heat checks with ample time on the shot clock for his team to get a better look than what he took. In fact, it was a LACK of creating a good shot that he settled for a harder shot than he needed to.
A lot to unpack there. Caleb certainly had/has issues with efficiency no doubt, big time issues. Cormac Ryan will not be the create something guy late in the clock, which was what my response was to. Hopefully as Jung stated he will be a good late clock kick to catch and shoot option though and when kicked to late in the clock he will take some more difficult looks. Still VERY different roles.Know what Caleb created most? He created a huge number of missed shots, I have not looked but maybe someone else wants to, I wonder where Caleb falls in the list of all time Tar Heels for missed shots in just his 3years with us, for that matter wonder where he falls in the all time missed shots for the entire NCAA? Yeah, Caleb created a lot of things for sure, I do recall very clearly he hitting big shots at the end of 2 very specific games against duke ending both K's career at Cameron with a loss and ending his career with a loss, for sure good times, I also recall his 5 for 26 in a natty game that we lost while being up big at the half, funny how 1 guy going 5 for 26 usually ends up with his team creating a loss rather than a win.
So yeah, we can for sure talk about what Caleb created but how about we not excuse it as his being forced to take all those bad shots because he was ONLY getting the ball when the shot clock was near zero, that sounds nice but it just isn't accurate, he shot most of those heat checks with ample time on the shot clock for his team to get a better look than what he took. In fact, it was a LACK of creating a good shot that he settled for a harder shot than he needed to.
Look, I am not saying Caleb did not thrill us at times, he certainly did. I am not that guy that is looking to lay the blame for last season at Caleb's feet either, very clearly there was good Caleb but there was bad Caleb as well and unfortunately bad Caleb showed up way to often.A lot to unpack there. Caleb certainly had/has issues with efficiency no doubt, big time issues. Cormac Ryan will not be the create something guy late in the clock, which was what my response was to. Hopefully as Jung stated he will be a good late clock kick to catch and shoot option though and when kicked to late in the clock he will take some more difficult looks. Still VERY different roles.
As to Caleb's 2 Dook games and poor shooting National title game. The game that stands out to me is the UCLA game. As good if not the best UNC NCAA performance ever. Done in the sweet 16, not Natty game, let alone the 2nd Dook finish without that incredible season saving performance. The Marquette toss-up opener he also finished in the 1st half, absolutely lights out. His tourney run was amazing.
very good point, especially frustrating because caleb was effective when driving to the hoop. but no, he just loved shooting 3s....at some point it has to occur to a player that man, my shot just is not there tonight, I need to chill taking shots and do other things to help my team win this game, a thought that didn't seem to register with Caleb....