The ACC head office disagrees, meaning it was conclusive enough for them.
Cutcliffe Whines Harder than Krazooski
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Sure, that was a block in the back. As I said, not nearly as egregious as 3 PIs, one of which negated an interception.
Of course the ACC disagrees. Duke football is the media darling du jour- no chance the ACC goes against the grain on this.
Well, that's fine. If the game had gone dook's way, I doubt there would be any suspensions today, but I am speculating there.
And for the record, I completely agree and was flabbergasted watching it all play out live. The whole ending of that game was a complete sh*t show and I'm glad the officials got suspended, regardless of the reason. Needs to happen more often IMHO because the lack of accountability is what allowed that trash to happen in the first place.
Yes you are right. As I've been saying the ACC office doesn't even know the rules.
Live ball, all the way. If a dook player had recovered the lateral here, would they have called #1 as being down? Hell no! For good reason.. he's not down! He's lateraling the ball.
RH is right, they blew several calls on that final return. Any one of them would have resulted in dook winning the game.
Watching dESPN right after that, the dESPN guys last night on Sportscenter HAMMERED the refs. Of course only one guy pointed out that it wasn't just on the return that they screwed up but dooks entire last drive being riddled with bad calls. He specifically mentioned the 2 PI's, said it wasn't "absolutely clear" they actually scored & that they screwed up the clock management giving dook time to run the play in the first place. All of which was also discussed here last night.
ACC refs are the worst in the country and it isn't even close. They have screwed so many things up this year you can't even list them all.
With all that said, it is real hard for me to have one ounce of sympathy for dook seeing as how they benefited from several bad calls to even be in a position to go ahead in the first place. Not to mention the fact they have benefited from TONS of crappy calls on the hardwood.
So, sorry dook. Not only did you lose but got screwed to have it happen. Those are the breaks!
Watching dESPN right after that, the dESPN guys last night on Sportscenter HAMMERED the refs. Of course only one guy pointed out that it wasn't just on the return that they screwed up but dooks entire last drive being riddled with bad calls. He specifically mentioned the 2 PI's, said it wasn't "absolutely clear" they actually scored & that they screwed up the clock management giving dook time to run the play in the first place. All of which was also discussed here last night.
ACC refs are the worst in the country and it isn't even close. They have screwed so many things up this year you can't even list them all.
With all that said, it is real hard for me to have one ounce of sympathy for dook seeing as how they benefited from several bad calls to even be in a position to go ahead in the first place. Not to mention the fact they have benefited from TONS of crappy calls on the hardwood.
So, sorry dook. Not only did you lose but got screwed to have it happen. Those are the breaks!
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2...lies-hilariously-to-acc-refs-being-suspended/
you guys see how miami responded on twitter?...it's freakin gold!!!
you guys see how miami responded on twitter?...it's freakin gold!!!
it was extremely lop-sided. I don't think Miami had 23, but they had about 18.
After that response, Miami should prepare itself to be the only basketball team to ever finish with negative points and it will come in their game with Dook at Hansbrough Indoor.
Sometimes, it really bothers me how much I DESPISE Cutcliffe. Ya know, how you look introspectively. I don't like having extreme negative opinions on people....it just feels like me being like Wolpfack idiots and Blew Imp short bussers, and I don't like that in myself. But I swear, watching that phony bastard throw a temper tantrum and the media reacting like he's justified just make me want to hunt him down and beat the hell out of him. Like, feeling my balled up fist crush and shatter his jaw would be just a cathartic experience. Why do I hate him so (yes, more than Vlad the Undead Rat)?
1- he's a penultimate phony. He plays the statesman role when, in fact, he's a horrible person. Mean, nasty, and abusive of those around him are labels he earned at Ole Miss. And you saw last night how he reacts when he doesn't get his way.
2- he's never really accomplished anything! His OOC schedules at dook rival the moo slates under Doeren for sheer weakness. 4 guaranteed Ws year after year, go 4-4, 5-3 in the league, and the press fawns all over him like he is this generation's Vince Lombardi. UNC would be excoriated by the media for anything approaching that level of soft scheduling. The ultimate pad job. At least Vlad the Undead Rat truly is a phenomenal coach....he's earned much of his adulation (excessive, but he's earned ALOT of it). But Cutcliffe is 26-38 in the ACC....not ALOT different from Bunting's 27-45 overall mark at UNC....ever see anyone proclaiming JB a genius, ala Cutcliffe?
3- the Jimbo Fisher drive-by handshake in 2013. Crystallized every negative opinion I've developed over the years about that smarmy bastard. He got bitch-slapped, and showed his butthurt that night.
4- he's just sooo dook; always has to be the smartest guy in the room, a total douche, and a whiner extraordinaire.
I hate David Cutcliffe. I hope we kick his ass again.
1- he's a penultimate phony. He plays the statesman role when, in fact, he's a horrible person. Mean, nasty, and abusive of those around him are labels he earned at Ole Miss. And you saw last night how he reacts when he doesn't get his way.
2- he's never really accomplished anything! His OOC schedules at dook rival the moo slates under Doeren for sheer weakness. 4 guaranteed Ws year after year, go 4-4, 5-3 in the league, and the press fawns all over him like he is this generation's Vince Lombardi. UNC would be excoriated by the media for anything approaching that level of soft scheduling. The ultimate pad job. At least Vlad the Undead Rat truly is a phenomenal coach....he's earned much of his adulation (excessive, but he's earned ALOT of it). But Cutcliffe is 26-38 in the ACC....not ALOT different from Bunting's 27-45 overall mark at UNC....ever see anyone proclaiming JB a genius, ala Cutcliffe?
3- the Jimbo Fisher drive-by handshake in 2013. Crystallized every negative opinion I've developed over the years about that smarmy bastard. He got bitch-slapped, and showed his butthurt that night.
4- he's just sooo dook; always has to be the smartest guy in the room, a total douche, and a whiner extraordinaire.
I hate David Cutcliffe. I hope we kick his ass again.
Did you see his handshake last night?
Cut ran out to the Miami coach and said "I have no idea what just happened, but good luck" and ran off. The Miami coach looked at him like he was a 3 year old girl.
In short, Cut has taken advantage of Beamer's demise and UVa having London. Both of those schools will get their shit together in the off season and Duke will be back in the basement which bears their name.
Cut ran out to the Miami coach and said "I have no idea what just happened, but good luck" and ran off. The Miami coach looked at him like he was a 3 year old girl.
In short, Cut has taken advantage of Beamer's demise and UVa having London. Both of those schools will get their shit together in the off season and Duke will be back in the basement which bears their name.
I put absolutely no credence in anything the ACC office says.
It really PISSES me off that the league comes out IMMEDIATELY w/ penalties, so as to justify Cutcliffe's whining, when they've just shrugged and done nothing all year when we've been egregiously hosed! It's as if getting calls wrong which HONEST officials cannot get wrong (GT measurement, Switz "fair catch", Hollins offensive PI, etc) don't matter unless it directly affects the game result. That's bullchit. Those mistakes are no less mistakes just b/c UNC overcame them.
Swofford is SO petrified of being accused of being pro-UNC that he overcompensates and allows any @ss-raping of UNC to occur unabated. This Saturday vs. dook is going to be a mockery of the game, from an officiating standpoint...Dook will be allowed to hold, facemask, and late-hit at will...oh wait, just like they were allowed to do so in 2013 at Kenan.
Swofford is SO petrified of being accused of being pro-UNC that he overcompensates and allows any @ss-raping of UNC to occur unabated. This Saturday vs. dook is going to be a mockery of the game, from an officiating standpoint...Dook will be allowed to hold, facemask, and late-hit at will...oh wait, just like they were allowed to do so in 2013 at Kenan.
i can't think of any other instance where refs were suspended for judgement calls. why am i not surprised that it happens after whining by a dook coach? we've been seeing it for years: dook has clout in the acc office and the ncaa. why does dook get the easiest regional bracket every year in hoops? same reason the acc responded to cutliff's whining by suspending refs instead of the suspending him for publically criticizing the officials.
Cutcliffe has spent the last 24 hours whining to anybody that will listen and, because it's dook, that anybody includes the ACC league office, ESPN, and the local media. I guarantee you if it was LF, he would have been fined and probably suspended by now, as well as raked over the coals by the media. Total BS.
Agreed on all counts. dookies are so used to the refs helping them out that it blows their mind when a big call goes against them. Serves Cut, DSPN, and their fans right.
It was a horrible call and Duke won that ballgame. I so wanted us to be the ones to give them that first conference loss. Had that happened to the Heels we would be in an uproar.
At least it continues the discussion on how BAD ACC officials really are. Plus the talking heads are actually talking about ACC football. Imagine if the league stepped in and reversed the outcome of the game. Coverage would be non stop. We would be in that coverage because we are going to slap them around, just like last year. Go Heels.
At least it continues the discussion on how BAD ACC officials really are. Plus the talking heads are actually talking about ACC football. Imagine if the league stepped in and reversed the outcome of the game. Coverage would be non stop. We would be in that coverage because we are going to slap them around, just like last year. Go Heels.
Below is another email correspondence that I sent directly to the ACC Coordinator of officials. I have refrained from publishing his email address, and really don't want to do so, but if someone here can convince me as to why I need to and how it will lead to a greater probability of fairness in next Saturday's officiating, I'm willing to have my mind changed.
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Again, I apologize for emailing your work re: the subject of ACC officials, but it’s pretty serious stuff at this point.
How is it that when Duke and their football coach throw a temper tantrum about officiating, heads roll and suspensions happen immediately? Meanwhile, the rest of the schools have to simply endure the incompetence (and in my belief, BIAS against at least UNC, maybe other league members) and critical blown calls week after week, with no justice, no admitting by the league that the officials were wrong, etc. How is that fair, or in the manner of sportsmanship? Yes, on the Miami lateral play a block in the back was missed, a Miami player may have been down, and some communication botched in explaining the referee conferral to pick up a flag thrown on a LEGAL block. Big deal; your refs miss holds, facemasks, and blocks in the back all the time, and can't overturn downed runners based upon the concept of irrefutable evidence. And Dook was ahead at the time due to an egregious set of calls on Dook's last drive, reflective of the overall 24-5 penalty disparity in the game. But, in comparison…UNC has endured a crooked measurement (image above) at GT, a crooked delay of game for illegal fair catch signal that NEVER HAPPENED vs. Wake, and a crooked phantom offensive pass interference call vs. uva (w/ the score tied) that again, never happened (YouTube link available)…without so much as a “yeah, we blew those…sorry about that” response, much less official suspensions. That those calls were overcome by UNC in victories is IRRELEVANT…they could’ve had significant effect.
Importantly, you have a specific rule that prohibits a coach from being critical of the officials. You now have a coach who has with intent, specifically described his criticisms, implied incompetence, and publicly has called for procedures to be put in place to change OUTCOMES of games based on officiating grievances (which is ridiculous on its face…your guys will NEVER do any better if they have that possibility hanging over the heads). That coach is David Cutcliffe of Duke. I mean, just lay it out there….do the rules apply to Duke, or not? If not, just say so and the rest of the league will adjust, or leave the league. If so, step up and suspend the asshole, per the rules.
My assumption is that you will not enforce the league’s rules referenced above and suspend Cutcliffe for his whining (I mean, we have 30 years of watching their hoops coach not be held to the rules). At the very least, I’m trusting that you, Mr. *******, will advise your officials that IN NO WAY is Mr. Cutcliffe’s whining to be allowed to influence their officiating in this upcoming Saturday’s game at Chapel Hill, NC between UNC and Dook (spelled it correctly here, vs. the incorrect reference above that is typically accepted nationally).
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Again, I apologize for emailing your work re: the subject of ACC officials, but it’s pretty serious stuff at this point.
How is it that when Duke and their football coach throw a temper tantrum about officiating, heads roll and suspensions happen immediately? Meanwhile, the rest of the schools have to simply endure the incompetence (and in my belief, BIAS against at least UNC, maybe other league members) and critical blown calls week after week, with no justice, no admitting by the league that the officials were wrong, etc. How is that fair, or in the manner of sportsmanship? Yes, on the Miami lateral play a block in the back was missed, a Miami player may have been down, and some communication botched in explaining the referee conferral to pick up a flag thrown on a LEGAL block. Big deal; your refs miss holds, facemasks, and blocks in the back all the time, and can't overturn downed runners based upon the concept of irrefutable evidence. And Dook was ahead at the time due to an egregious set of calls on Dook's last drive, reflective of the overall 24-5 penalty disparity in the game. But, in comparison…UNC has endured a crooked measurement (image above) at GT, a crooked delay of game for illegal fair catch signal that NEVER HAPPENED vs. Wake, and a crooked phantom offensive pass interference call vs. uva (w/ the score tied) that again, never happened (YouTube link available)…without so much as a “yeah, we blew those…sorry about that” response, much less official suspensions. That those calls were overcome by UNC in victories is IRRELEVANT…they could’ve had significant effect.
Importantly, you have a specific rule that prohibits a coach from being critical of the officials. You now have a coach who has with intent, specifically described his criticisms, implied incompetence, and publicly has called for procedures to be put in place to change OUTCOMES of games based on officiating grievances (which is ridiculous on its face…your guys will NEVER do any better if they have that possibility hanging over the heads). That coach is David Cutcliffe of Duke. I mean, just lay it out there….do the rules apply to Duke, or not? If not, just say so and the rest of the league will adjust, or leave the league. If so, step up and suspend the asshole, per the rules.
My assumption is that you will not enforce the league’s rules referenced above and suspend Cutcliffe for his whining (I mean, we have 30 years of watching their hoops coach not be held to the rules). At the very least, I’m trusting that you, Mr. *******, will advise your officials that IN NO WAY is Mr. Cutcliffe’s whining to be allowed to influence their officiating in this upcoming Saturday’s game at Chapel Hill, NC between UNC and Dook (spelled it correctly here, vs. the incorrect reference above that is typically accepted nationally).
dook won that ball game?? Hmmmm why did they get the 2nd loss in their column then? True Carolina fans don't spell it D-u-k-e.
Let 'em keep whining all week. Hope the distraction helps contribute to the ineptitude they will be bringing to Kenan on Saturday.
Heels 43
Douches 17
Heels 43
Douches 17
No, because the crack production crew from ESPNU and the facilities management team at Wallace Wade Middle School Stadium didn't have the foresight to place a camera on the goal line.
All this is getting ridiculous. Cutcliffe is allowed to publicly criticize refs without punishment. Refs are essentially suspended for missing calls on the last play. The fact that Miami was penalized 5x more than duke, the PI calls on uncatchable balls the last drive, the referee stoppages on duke's last drive (when the devils just happened to out of timeouts), lack of replay angle to determine if Sirk crossed the goal line are all ignored. Canes were hosed for 59 minutes and 54 seconds. Why not have a 24 hour window before scores are final to review all drives and if a call on the offense was missed the score does not count and if a call on defense was missed then points are awarded to offense? Do it for basketball too, that way we can just skip over the game and determine winner by computer simulation so we eliminate completely the human element of the game. Best team on paper hangs the banner.
Can we go ahead and institute that policy proactively for this year's basketball team?
F hoops, right now. We are 4-0 in ACC Football and 7-1 overall with a major bowl on the line if we can win out. Can we just please hold the basketball references until end of the reg. season, at least.
I love the hoops Heels, but the constant pining for hoops just get boring after awhile.
I love the hoops Heels, but the constant pining for hoops just get boring after awhile.
You're going to get a nose bleed up there on your high horse Grid. Chill out.
Sorry JuleZ. No offense to you, personally. The constant basketball references just get old.
And plus, I'm pretty spun up w/ all this continued Cut whining. At the end of the day, that smarmy, phoney jackass is calling for reverse engineering of sports games outcomes....for what boils down to a missed block in the back, when the league memo is boiled down to the essentials. Think about it: #4 wouldn't have negated the TD; #3 was a mere communication issue on a CORRECT CALL, #1 cannot be overturned by any video evidence available to them at the time, therefore the irrefutable evidence standard isn't met. Which leaves the block in the back at the Miami 16 yd line. How many thousands of those calls are missed in a college football season?? Answer: THOUSANDS! But it only matters when the fair-haired children of college athletics are effected.
And plus, I'm pretty spun up w/ all this continued Cut whining. At the end of the day, that smarmy, phoney jackass is calling for reverse engineering of sports games outcomes....for what boils down to a missed block in the back, when the league memo is boiled down to the essentials. Think about it: #4 wouldn't have negated the TD; #3 was a mere communication issue on a CORRECT CALL, #1 cannot be overturned by any video evidence available to them at the time, therefore the irrefutable evidence standard isn't met. Which leaves the block in the back at the Miami 16 yd line. How many thousands of those calls are missed in a college football season?? Answer: THOUSANDS! But it only matters when the fair-haired children of college athletics are effected.
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