Daily Drop: Is It Time for a Referendum on Hubert Davis?
With so much talk about Hubert Davis and his future at North Carolina, we offer our take in this Daily Drop
Daily Drop: Is It Time for a Referendum on Hubert Davis?
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From an X's and O's perspective, i'm not sure HD is what we need. I believe most of our success under HD was more about the talent that got us over. A roster like we have currently will expose the level of coaching and I believe he has fallen short.
Andrew, I agree that Hubert has to be given the rest of the year. If recruiting improves, which is possible, he should probably return next year. I know that things have not gone very well for UNC lately in bball but he might be able to turn things around. I certainly hope so. Anyway, thanks for the honest assessment.
That is where I seem to be moving to. I think, if this moves the way I now think it will, a ton of what Hubert needs to improve on in Xs & Os will be greatly helped. The old phrase "fake it til you make it" comes to mind, Calipari has made a HOF career over doing just that and he has never "made it".
The only real difference between Hubert and Schyer right now inmy opinion is the talent level that duke has and the huge assist of a large staff that helps him in every way to win games, outside of assistant coaches and Hubert has very little of that. Feel like I could make a compelling case to allow these staff changes to fully be in place and then access Hubert's ability, like they change coaches in the NBA, the support staff says relatively the same.
HD needs to get at least 2 starting transfers who can play defense and stroke the 3 ball. Those players need to be in the 6-4 to 6-6 range, imo. Best wishes to our staff...🏀✨
So we follow your advice, AJ, and let Hubert finish the last 9 games. I'm OK with that.
Let's assume the team performs about as expected down the stretch - 7 wins, give or take.
Then what?
Does he then deserve to stay coach for the ACCT?
Does he then deserve to stay coach during the portal?
And how can you pull the plug after the portal? If Hubert is coach in the portal, he's coach next year.
My own take is, yes, he gets to stay coach through the ACCT (and beyond if there is a beyond). But no, he does not deserve to be our coach in the portal unless he has turned the team around.
It's not my call, but if it was, I'd tell him he must make the NCAAT to keep his job. Maybe have to win at least 1 game in the NCAAT.
Let's assume the team performs about as expected down the stretch - 7 wins, give or take.
Then what?
Does he then deserve to stay coach for the ACCT?
Does he then deserve to stay coach during the portal?
And how can you pull the plug after the portal? If Hubert is coach in the portal, he's coach next year.
My own take is, yes, he gets to stay coach through the ACCT (and beyond if there is a beyond). But no, he does not deserve to be our coach in the portal unless he has turned the team around.
It's not my call, but if it was, I'd tell him he must make the NCAAT to keep his job. Maybe have to win at least 1 game in the NCAAT.
One more preference. If we fail to make the NCAAT but are offered the NIT, we damn well better go to the NIT. Whether Hubert is coach or not.
I definitely think it’s bush league tacky to fire a coach during the season who hasn’t done anything wrong or gotten into trouble.
I think Hubert's pretty safe for next season. Unless they finish .500 overall this season, he'll be the HC next season.
Regardless, I think the process of Hubert being able to "save his job" if he makes the NCAA Tournament is a pretty flawed one. There are 37 at larges right (assuming UNC doesn't win the conference tournament)? I don't think there's much difference if UNC is the 36th best team and gets in vs the 40th best and gets left out. This is more of a process thing for me and to overly skew his job security based on being on the right vs wrong side of the bubble is a really flawed process.
The following was not part of your post. It's more of a response to the podcast episode on this thread.
Also, I'm not sure if any reasonable fan is demanding Hubert's firing during this season. That's not going to accomplish much. So the subject of the podcast episode was a bit puzzling for me. I think most fans want the season to play out, but if the season ended today, this is their opinion.
Some of the defense is irrelevant for Hubert and his job security (and I emphasize in my opinion).
"This man has given so much of his time to this school. He loves this program." - Doesn't affect winning.
"He played [at UNC]." - Doesn't affect winning
"His uncle was a great player at Carolina." - Doesn't affect winning
"Hubert has been around the game for 4 decades." - Maybe affects winning.... Maybe doesn't?
A mention of the 1976 Olympics - Doesn't affect winning today
So my concern is there's a lot of arguments that don't have to do with a whole lot on the basketball court taking shape. And don't be mistaken, the staff changes and directing some of the blame to that is a way for Hubert to protect himself. He has every right to do that as well. Maybe the difference between this being a well coached program and what we've seen for the better part of 6 seasons now is a General Manager and bigger staff. I have my doubts but Hubert's going to get the opportunity to prove his case.
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