Debate Night Again . . .

[strummingram]

Seriously, who doesn't know where to find a dime bag these days? C'mon people, a bag of weed is no more than 2 degrees away from any citizen of the United States at any time.

Well, I would be lost. I haven't smoked weed in 27 years. Regardless, it's illegal. A kid got shot and killed about 4 miles from my house by a cop over a bag of weed. In the parking lot of a Hardee's. It needs to be decriminalized, at the very least.

 

[BillyL]

And frankly I do not give a crap what anyone says HE IS A MUSLIM and it shows by his actions. I detest that man.

If, I was a die-hard republican, and he kicked my political party's ass not once, but twice, I'd detest the man too . . Let alone the fact that you actually believe he is a muslim.

 

[UNC71-00]

Well, I would be lost. I haven't smoked weed in 27 years. Regardless, it's illegal. A kid got shot and killed about 4 miles from my house by a cop over a bag of weed. In the parking lot of a Hardee's. It needs to be decriminalized, at the very least.

You should just link this video in your signature as many times as you post it.

 

[Heels in Space]

Let alone the fact that you actually believe he is a muslim.

As do 43% of Republicans. My favorite, though, is that 30% of Louisiana Republicans blame Obama for the response to hurricane Katrina. Ponder that for a second.

 

[UNC71-00]

Slinger that's the best post in this thread. The man has done his best to tear apart this country. And frankly I do not give a crap what anyone says HE IS A MUSLIM and it shows by his actions. I detest that man.

This is where things go off the rails with the far right guys. It doesn't matter if he is a muslim. It doesn't matter if he was born in Kenya. There are a bazillion reasons to dislike the man's policies just based on his record in office. Why in the world do you have to bring up something irrelevant that allows middle of the road and left wing nuts to correctly brand you as a wingnut?

And if you don't care what other people think, then why are you sharing your opinion on a message board? Just tone it down and you will find your message has a better chance of resonating.

 

[BillyL]

Wasn't it Trump that a couple years back said that he had proof that Obama was a Muslim . . . ? Pretty sure he did.

Did he actually ever come forward with that evidence . . ? I never saw or heard that he had.

Trump is nothing more than a arrogant ass that just happens to also be full of s#it.

 

[UNC71-00]

Wasn't it Trump that a couple years back said that he had proof that Obama was a Muslim . . . ? Pretty sure he did.

Did he actually ever come forward with that evidence . . ? I never saw or heard that he had.

Trump is nothing more than a arrogant ass that just happens to also be full of s#it.

He sure as hell is. If he wins it will be a seamless transition at 1600 Penn Ave.

I just hope that the GOP comes to its few remaining senses and gets rid of this jackass. Plenty of excellent GOP candidates to chose from yet this asshat is leading the polls. SMFH

 

[strummingram]

You should just link this video in your signature as many times as you post it.

It's actually only the 2nd time I posted the video (and it wasn't even in the post you quoted here). It's pretty effective, so you may have a point. It basically sinks all the assumptions about them hating us for our freedoms, or because we're not Muslims, like a stone in a koi pond.

If another country set up shop on our soil for the same reason ours does over there (imagine if Kudzu suddenly became a valuable commodity), then many of us citizens would react and resist in a similar fashion. And, as religious as this country can be, many of us would bolster the resistance with their religion of choice. It's pretty obvious. You take away that natural resource and the place never even thought about by our grand leaders and their owners.

I certainly do NOT like the way these people have chosen to respond and react. It's costing more lives and making it more egregious and difficult to quell and correct and stop. But, to keep ignoring our culpability, and watching the leaders and their owners get us in deeper and deeper, by doing the same things over and over, is pretty stupid.

Do you think Clarke is lying? Do you think he's wrong?

 

[BillyL]

He sure as hell is. If he wins it will be a seamless transition at 1600 Penn Ave.

I just hope that the GOP comes to its few remaining senses and gets rid of this jackass. Plenty of excellent GOP candidates to chose from yet this asshat is leading the polls. SMFH

Oh no no no, my good friend. We want Donald the Trumpet to be the GOP POTUS candidate, and with any luck he'll choose Sarah Palin as his running mate . .

I think that combination will truly " Make America Great Again " . .

 

[strummingram]

Trump is a pretty dangerous risk as president. But, the GOP list is loaded with scary choices. You have about 1/4 of them who are basically up for a Theocracy here in this country. Cruz, Walker, Huckabee and Santorum are all religious extremists. People that worship religions are dangerous. I wouldn't want any of those 4 anywhere near a government operation, let alone in charge of them!

When the GOP candidates aren't focusing on denying homosexuals the right to marry, they're looking for ways to repeal Roe vs. Wade. Those policies are done. You can try to change them and affect them by behavior and cultural actions, but running a political campaign to force their removal will only cost you more elections. You have to change the beliefs, THEN the popular opinion follows. The GOP has become the party of the past.

When they aren't doing those two things, they're preoccupied with how best to invade Middle Eastern countries that aren't Israel, to take over their economy and oil production. I've never seen such a blatantly-owned party as the GOP has become. They are Israel-West. Israel and Oil should be on their bumper stickers- IsrOil!

Truth be told, I'm not entirely opposed to the oil acquisition and control. If the oil ever stops being traded in US Dollars, from the tap, this country's economy is literally collapsing... fast. But, then you have to continue to wonder when the next beheading/bomb will occur. Tough choices!

 

[UNC71-00]

Oh no no no, my good friend. We want Donald the Trumpet to be the GOP POTUS candidate, and with any luck he'll choose Sarah Palin as his running mate . .

I think that combination will truly " Make America Great Again " . .

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, you are voting for who ever is the Dem candidate.

 

[BillyL]

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, you are voting for who ever is the Dem candidate.

I am . . ? I didn't vote Dem in 1980. Voted McDonnell in 2009 . .

Have you ever voted for anyone that wasn't a republican for POTUS . . ?

 

[UNC71-00]

I am . . ? I didn't vote Dem in 1980. Voted McDonnell in 2009 . .

Have you ever voted for anyone that wasn't a republican for POTUS . . ?

Romney is the only GOP presidential nominee for whom I have ever voted.

 

[tazki]

If, I was a die-hard republican, and he kicked my political party's ass not once, but twice, I'd detest the man too . . Let alone the fact that you actually believe he is a muslim.

Billy that jerk winning twice is nothing more that clear evidence of how shallow our country has become. Had the other side had anyone that was conservative and had any nuts he would have lost. 4 million republicans stayed home because of the nominee. Not an excuse but a fact. The republican establishment is ruining the party.

 

[BillyL]

Had the other side had anyone that was conservative and had any nuts he would have lost. 4 million republicans stayed home because of the nominee. Not an excuse but a fact. The republican establishment is ruining the party.

Well then don't blame the people that voted Obama if there wasn't a clear and better choice that would have motivated it's base.

Taz, we all the right to bitch, moan, groan and complain . . but, to do so because of your own failures is nothing more than shifting the blame is it not . . ?

 

[tazki]

Well then don't blame the people that voted Obama if there wasn't a clear and better choice that would have motivated it's base.

Taz, we all the right to bitch, moan, groan and complain . . but, to do so because of your own failures is nothing more than shifting the blame is it not . . ?

Billy I just detest anyone hailing Obama. The man clearly does not like what this country has stood for and it is clear in his words and actions. Anyone that says differently is a fool or a bleeding heart lib.

 

[BillyL]

Billy I just detest anyone hailing Obama. The man clearly does not like what this country has stood for and it is clear in his words and actions. Anyone that says differently is a fool or a bleeding heart lib.

Bulls#it . . ! You had no love for Obama before he ever spent day 1 in office.

 

[tazki]

Bulls#it . . ! You had no love for Obama before he ever spent day 1 in office.

Correct. His words before he even ran tell all I need to know. So take your "bullshit" elsewhere.

 

[BillyL]

Correct. His words before he even ran tell all I need to know. So take your "bullshit" elsewhere.

LOL . . . thought so, had you pegged right from the start.

Obama this, Obama that . . . . . let those tears flow, Taz. You'll feel better . .

Who is your main man/woman for the 2016 POTUS election . . . ?

 

[strummingram]

Correct. His words before he even ran tell all I need to know. So take your "bullshit" elsewhere.

Being someone that has no real respect, or support, for Obama as a President; I am very curious as to what specific "words before he ran tell I need to know" happen to be? Can you be more specific? What are some words that told you all you needed to know?

 

[tazki]

Being someone that has no real respect, or support, for Obama as a President; I am very curious as to what specific "words before he ran tell I need to know" happen to be? Can you be more specific? What are some words that told you all you needed to know?

Read his sorry ass books Strum. Look, if any of you are denying that Obama is not a far left radical then you need help. These comments just confirm that this country is lost. Not that I need confirmation.

 

[strummingram]

Read his sorry ass books Strum. Look, if any of you are denying that Obama is not a far left radical then you need help. These comments just confirm that this country is lost. Not that I need confirmation.

So, you can't be more specific?
I have no desire to read his books.

 

[tazki]

So, you can't be more specific?
I have no desire to read his books.

Strum maybe you should read some of what he said. Now he has appointed a gay guy to lead the Army. Oh yea, Obama is all about America. And yes, I have a real problem with a gay heading the Army. Obama will get his due at some point. Guy is worthless.

 

[uncboy10]

If you think there is anything remotely radical about Obama then you need to crack open a history book...

 

[strummingram]

And yes, I have a real problem with a gay heading the Army.

No kidding? I just NEVER would have imagined that about you.

 

[Archer2]

geezus kreist, they are joke.

not one single person up there deserves to replace the current person in there now.

i have no idea who to support...i hate or laugh at everyone.

I've literally said the exact same things about Obama. No, I promise. You could probably check my posting history and find that exact quote. I know hundreds of people that have said the EXACT SAME THINGS ABOUT OBAMA. Especially that "no substance" comment. I mean, if I had a nickel for every time I or someone else across the country said "no substance" in reference to Obama, I'd have a boatload of nickels. Buffoon is an awesome word that I like to use pretty regularly. And when I do use it, chances are I'm talking about Obama. And yeah, everyday my opinion of people that support Obama lowers and my disdain for them grows so I've definitely used that phrase too. Punchline? Well, I used to say that word in reference to Obama. But 7 years in, it's clear that the joke is on us.

As a very green senator who voted "present" 80% of the time, I was very worried about his inexperience. When he stated that he wanted to fundamentally transform America, I was even more worried. Yet I felt that he was uniquely qualified to lay racial tensions to rest once and for all. He was the prime example of a poor minority child who worked hard and was able to achieve the highest office in the land. That could/should have been his message to minorities. Instead of being a unifier however, he chose to be divisive and fan the flames of racial animosity. Now there is more racial tension in America than I've seen since the integration of our public schools, and much of the blame lies with Obama. War has basically been declared on our policemen and he is pouring fuel on the fire. He routinely invites Al Sharpton to the White House, a man who is one of the biggest racists in the country. If we have a race war, and I pray to God that we don't because it would destroy our country, much of the blame would lie squarely on Obama's shoulders.

As for the current crop of Republican candidates, there are 4-5 that I could see myself voting for. There are 4-5 more that scare the shite out of me. But none of them could possibly be any worse than our current President. He has succeeded in fundamentally transforming America all right. Unfortunately, it's been for the worse. That's very sad in lieu of the potential Obama had to heal our country.

 

[prlyles]

Romney is the only GOP presidential nominee for whom I have ever voted.

I wish Romney was running this time around.

 

[bleeduncblue]

It kills me that Trump is getting so much play. Of the 3 non-politicians, he is a distant third behind Fiorina and Carson. And he is a worse option than a few of the politicians- Rubio, Christie and Paul.

How can any thinking republican or conservative support the Donald? I just dont get it.

I'll vote for Trump simply to keep Hildabeast out of the White House .....and millions more will do the same. And having the Obama train wreck the last 7 years has paved the way for a guy like Trump to win, IMO.

 

[UNC71-00]

I'll vote for Trump simply to keep Hildabeast out of the White House .....and millions more will do the same. And having the Obama train wreck the last 7 years has paved the way for a guy like Trump to win, IMO.

Right, but you and I would have said the same thing about Romney in 2012. The 47% is an actual real demographic. It's an uphill battle for anyone who prefers a candidate who is not a Democrat.

The saving grace is turnout. Gonna be hard to motivate everyone who voted for Obama to turnout for Joe or Bernie. But a Trump ticket might keep a significant portion of right leaning voters away too. The only reason to vote for Trump is that he is not Hillary. Hardly excites anyone to go to the polls.

 

[uncboy10]

It says a lot about the sorry state of American politics when people are willing to throw away their vote out of hatred of another candidate

 

[UNC71-00]

It says a lot about the sorry state of American politics when people are willing to throw away their vote out of hatred of another candidate

Indeed it does.

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Indeed it does.

This happens and has happened all the time since this nation was formed. And, if the truth be told, It is no different today than just before the Civil War. That is where this nation is these days...

 

[bleeduncblue]

Yeah voting for ------ to keep ------ out of office has been going on since the ballot box was created, at any and every level. I'm not ashamed of it. A no-vote is a vote FOR Hildabeast.

To be honest I've always liked Trump. He is what he is, has been for as long as I can remember, I appreciate that.

 

[UNC71-00]

Yeah voting for ------ to keep ------ out of office has been going on since the ballot box was created, at any and every level. I'm not ashamed of it. A no-vote is a vote FOR Hildabeast.

To be honest I've always liked Trump. He is what he is, has been for as long as I can remember, I appreciate that.

I have never liked Trump. I think he is a buffoon of the highest order and the past few months have done nothing for me but confirm my position.

What is it that you like about Trump? Obviously I am not talking about his positions as he has taken none other than build a wall. Why do you like this arrogant, self-promoting man?

 

[TarHeelMark]

I totally get wanting to support someone from outside the political world. I just don't get the support for Trump when he is an arrogant blowhard that offers nothing of substance. Carson or Fiorina come across as a better option if your looking for an outsider.

 

[tazki]

If you think there is anything remotely radical about Obama then you need to crack open a history book...

He throws everything "America" in our face. Anyone that thinks he's not a radical is a full blown idiot or a flaming lib. I choose the latter for you.

 

[strummingram]

He throws everything "America" in our face. Anyone that thinks he's not a radical is a full blown idiot or a flaming lib. I choose the latter for you.

If he's a "radical" then radical means very little these days! Real radicals would be insulted by that! Obama does what he's told. He wishes he had the power that right wing mouthpieces like to give him. I don't trust him at all. He's proven he does what he's told whenever it really counts. You guys that fear him, like he's Malcolm X and Dolemite wrapped in one guy are funny.

 

[strummingram]

Right, but you and I would have said the same thing about Romney in 2012. The 47% is an actual real demographic. It's an uphill battle for anyone who prefers a candidate who is not a Democrat.

The saving grace is turnout. Gonna be hard to motivate everyone who voted for Obama to turnout for Joe or Bernie. But a Trump ticket might keep a significant portion of right leaning voters away too. The only reason to vote for Trump is that he is not Hillary. Hardly excites anyone to go to the polls.

From what I've seen, Bernie Sanders is going to be a force to be reckoned with. He's really LEFT of center! And, he's drawing lots of support! He's someone that true left-wing progressives will galvanize behind. He represents policy and philosophy that many of them truly advocate. He's not the same old CFR/MIC shill like many. I don't think he will win the election, but his impact will be felt. I learned from both Ron Paul campaigns, that changing beliefs and influencing the narrative is just as powerful and having the most ballots.

 

[tazki]

If he's a "radical" then radical means very little these days! Real radicals would be insulted by that! Obama does what he's told. He wishes he had the power that right wing mouthpieces like to give him. I don't trust him at all. He's proven he does what he's told whenever it really counts. You guys that fear him, like he's Malcolm X and Dolemite wrapped in one guy are funny.

"Does what he's told" By whom Strum? I don't buy that for a minute. And the Republicans have done nothing to fight him. They are as much a joke as he is, except for maybe a few.

And Bernie Sanders has NO CHANCE of being elected period.

 

[uncboy10]

"Does what he's told" By whom Strum? I don't buy that for a minute. And the Republicans have done nothing to fight him. They are as much a joke as he is, except for maybe a few.

And Bernie Sanders has NO CHANCE of being elected period.

Keep telling yourself that. People like the fact that he doesn't have a super PAC and it will look even better once the smear tactics really get fired up. His message is resonating with a lot of people and he looks more like the democratic nominee every passing day.

But seriously if you think there is anything remotely radical about Obama then you need a history class. Calling him a radical is an insult to actual radicals.