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Dickie V also not given UNC any love

Here's another doubter, Myron Medcalf. Every article he publishes always doubts UNC and they prove him wrong. Hmmm. http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...ns-north-carolina-wont-last-the-first-weekend

Medcalf is a moron. He contradicts himself. He says Cal won't make the sweet 16, because they have to get past Maryland to do it. Then later on he says that Maryland will get upset by SDSU in the first round.

Also, he has UNC, IU, and UK all losing before the sweet 16. That means he has probably Providence over Stony Brook to go the Elite 8? I mean, I get begging for page clicks, but he's nuts. At least he mentions that he has a history of botching these things royally (0-10 one year).
 
the good news with kentucky is that they allow us to play our best game and we don't have to worry about a slow it down type game. i respect kentucky for the fact that like UNC they roll out their best 5 and say lets go and see who wins. no slow it down, head snapping, flopping around. just lets go play. in those type games, especially this year, i like our chances..
 
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FYI, not only was Ulis the SEC POY he was also the SEC Defensive Player of the Year. But I guess his defense is weak. LOL

Uh, I believe that was SEC POY and DPOY, as in SEC BASKETBALL? This isn't football boss, this is basketball and spin it any way you feel ya need to but your SEC is still the weakest major conference in basketball. So pardon me while I chuckle at your amazing Ulis fella being the best in the least!

And I do appreciate the fact that your kitty kats beat duke and Lville EARLY SEASON but tta this point in the season where teams have matured, IMHO Ky is not within 10pts of either of those 2 teams. Uva I don't think would allow Ky to score over 50 in a game played now, they would shut your guards down flat. You have no one on your team able to handle Brogden on either end of the court in my STRONG OPINION. And just so ya know, we just beat them in DC for the ACC title as well as being the ACC regular season champs.

I get your love for all things Ky but the truth is I doubt we get to play Ky in this NCAAT, cause I think you will have your hands full with Indiana and we would appreciate it if you guys would wear them down some so can take them out a lil easier!
 
the good news with kentucky is that they allow us to play our best game and we don't have to worry about a slow it down type game. i respect kentucky for the fact that like UNC they roll out their best 5 and say lets go and see who wins. no slow it down, head snapping, flopping around. just lets go play. in those type games, especially this year, i like our chances..

I look forward to playing either IU or Ky, I think it will be IU but lets see. I love the fact that either are likely to try to run with us and not make us have to deal with another slow it down, grind it out, have to figure out yet another zone variation type of game. That wide open type of game is our bread & butter and we have the quality depth 11 deep to make it work.
 
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Before the bracket came out, I told my buddies that I wanted to be as far away from MSU and UNC as possible, and of course we end up with a potential sweet 16 showdown. Of course I said the same thing about OSU and UNC in 2011 and it worked out. I guess that's why we play the games. Hopefully UK can get past Stony Brook and IU and set up the big game. I think UNC is 5 points better on most nights, but anything can happen. Looking forward to it if UK can hold up their end of the bargain and win 2 games.
 
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The good thing is that the game will be decided on the court and not in a chat room. May the best team win and they shall be wearing white with Carolina trim..
 
Uh, I believe that was SEC POY and DPOY, as in SEC BASKETBALL? This isn't football boss, this is basketball and spin it any way you feel ya need to but your SEC is still the weakest major conference in basketball. So pardon me while I chuckle at your amazing Ulis fella being the best in the least!

And I do appreciate the fact that your kitty kats beat duke and Lville EARLY SEASON but tta this point in the season where teams have matured, IMHO Ky is not within 10pts of either of those 2 teams. Uva I don't think would allow Ky to score over 50 in a game played now, they would shut your guards down flat. You have no one on your team able to handle Brogden on either end of the court in my STRONG OPINION. And just so ya know, we just beat them in DC for the ACC title as well as being the ACC regular season champs.

I get your love for all things Ky but the truth is I doubt we get to play Ky in this NCAAT, cause I think you will have your hands full with Indiana and we would appreciate it if you guys would wear them down some so can take them out a lil easier!

I have no idea how you can come to some of these conclusions. WE are the younger team when it comes to Louisville or Duke. WE are the team that was extremely young and inexperienced earlier in the season when we beat both of them. If anything, we have matured more than those two teams and more than most in the entire country due to our youth. We beat Duke by double digits when they were healthy and had their full roster intact. They do not now and haven't had for some time. We had a 17 point lead on Louisville and made a mistake by slowing it down after getting a big lead. That's one of the faults Cal has in my opinion. I prefer stepping on an opponents neck when they're down. We have matured very well as a team. We've had our growing pains but have played through them. I hope for a great game is we meet up and I think it will be.
 
The part for some reason you left off was that the Cats have more McDonald All Americans year after year and most of them play one year and then they leave. That's why the team is SO YOUNG year after year and even Dickie V With only one good eye knows that and sees that...
 
Why are we worrying what this UK homer says? UK couldn't even win an outright regular season championship in the SEC which should have netted just 2 tourney teams.

Ulis is good. Murray is great. Willis is aight. But we are better and are equal or better at all 5 positions besides sg where Murray is better than Paige (if Paige doesn't return to form). And if Paige does find his long range shot, we are better at all 5 positions and arguably in the top 7 to 8 positions counting the bench.
 
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The part for some reason you left off was that the Cats have more McDonald All Americans year after year and most of them play one year and then they leave. That's why the team is SO YOUNG year after year and even Dickie V With only one good eye knows that and sees that...

I didn't leave it out. It's obvious. Everyone knows we get talent and many of our players head to the NBA after a year or two. What's your point? We still have to start over with a very young and inexperienced team every year, but by March they come around.
 
I didn't leave it out. It's obvious. Everyone knows we get talent and many of our players head to the NBA after a year or two. What's your point? We still have to start over with a very young and inexperienced team every year, but by March they come around.

I believe the point is that Ky is actually NOT the ONLY team in the country that improves as the season moves on. Kinda what I was saying about the 2 ACC teams that Ky did beat EARLY season. I honestly do not think this particular Ky team would have finished above 6th or 7th in this season's ACC.
 
To be fair, UK beat both Louisville and Duke. I'm not saying UK would've won the ACC (and I do think the ACC is stronger the SEC as most objective fans of any fanbase would agree), but we can't say they wouldn't beat teams.....when they beat two of them this year.

1 win was on a neutral court, and the other was at home. Good wins, but that plays a factor.
 
1 win was on a neutral court, and the other was at home. Good wins, but that plays a factor.

Sure it does. No doubt. But, tournament games are played on a neutral court too. As for Louisville, that game is a rivalry game and Kentucky has an advantage over them in the series....which can play a big role in the game. My point was you can't say Kentucky would lose in the ACC when they beat two of the top 5-6 teams when they actually played this year.
 
I saw Kentucky play 1 game in person this year - and it was in Brooklyn against OSU (I was there for the UNC-UCLA game obviously but watched both). UK looked like garbage in that game and lost to a non-tournament team. Yes they've had good wins this year, but they've also had some head scratching losses. Only 2 of their 8 losses are to the field of 64 (lost at Vandy as well who plays a play in game). Compared to UNC, who all 6 of their losses would have come to tournament teams had Louisville been eligible.

It all depends which UK team shows up, as to whether it's gonna get it's doors blown off - or give UNC all it can handle and possibly knock the Heels off.
 
I think UK would finish in top half of conference but struggle to make top four. UNC, UVa, Notre Dame and Miami are all veteran teams. Throw in the athleticism of several other teams plus the pretty good coaches and I think the 16 game schedule would wear on a younger team. I am pretty sure Ulis would not have the same season had he run the gauntlet of some of the guards in the conference.
 
Kentucky is the one non two seed I didn't want to see in our bracket. They have the best backcourt in the country that can take over a game more easily than a big man can.

We're better than them and we should be able to beat them. A benefit to playing them, you don't need to guard Isiah Briscoe. But they're really good. So good that even when they play 4 v 5 in the halfcourt, they still have the most efficient offense in the country.

Again, I think we're better, but with their guards and lineup versatility.... They're one of the teams I didn't want in our bracket.
 
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Sure it does. No doubt. But, tournament games are played on a neutral court too. As for Louisville, that game is a rivalry game and Kentucky has an advantage over them in the series....which can play a big role in the game. My point was you can't say Kentucky would lose in the ACC when they beat two of the top 5-6 teams when they actually played this year.

Respectfully coach, do we elivate the teams that also beat duke to the NCAAT? IMO time of the year teams play is very important, some teams come together much better than others. As much as I loved our beating duke at cameron, IMO the teams that could have done that on that night I can count on one hand and IMHO Ky is not one of them. IN that ACCT game, IMHO there were at best maybe 2 teams in the country that would have beaten Uva that night, one of them did and the other one is the NCAAT over all #1 seed.

IMHO, that Ky back court gets a lot of love but I strongly believe its success is more a function of the conference they play in. I can not buy either of those Ky guards as being on par with Brogden, the ACC POY. I am not sure this Ky team had they played in the ACC would have made this ACCT, just my opinion. I see this Ky team as being very similar to this years duke team, front court lite and all about their guards but I see duke as a better shooting group, especially with kennard hitting. Just my opinion...

Oh and as for Ky and Lville, yeah, Ky beat them early, I do NOT believe they would have beat them late season. Lville had the NCAA stuff hanging over them and it was fresh early on, that team kinda came together late and became a tuff out.
 
Yeah, but we're not Notre Dame or Vitginia. If the game happens, and you have to think it will, it will come down to our backcourt v. your front court. Should be a great one.
No, Virginia is a much better team than you are, and ND is about even. And no, I don't have to think the matchup happens, because I think Indiana is a better team than you too.
 
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We are absolutely going to have to have outstanding back court play to beat UK. Another solid defensive effort like we had during the ACC tourney will do it.
In the tournament the teams with the better guard play typically have better runs.
 
Obviously any team that beats duke should be a one-seed. I mean they are the greatest after all and have the Leader of Men (TM) for their coach.

I hear that's how we got ours. We were slated as the #8 seed in KU's region, until the committee rechecked the schedule and realized that we beat duke in Durham and bumped us up to the 1 line.
 
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And if five, six, eight teams beat duke we'll just have to have more one-seeds. The bracket's already complicated with all these play-in games, so I'm sure they can figure it out.
 
I'm not elevating Kentucky because they beat Duke. I'm simply saying making a statement that they woudn't win in the ACC is opinion. Some may believe that....but the only examples we have from which to pull.....they are 2-0. It was earlier in the season....for all teams that played. I think Kentucky has improved over the course of the year. Maybe it is playing in a weak SEC and it gives them confidence....but so much of the game is mental anyway. I haven't watched them a lot, but Ulis and Murray can play. They hit shots. When a team can hit shots against us, we can struggle....as can a lot of teams.

I'm not mailing it in and saying they beat us, but I'm also not saying we show up and just win. I love my Heels, but I'm a realist too.....Kentucky is better than some of you think.....weak SEC or not.
 
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the only examples we have from which to pull.....they are 2-0.

I don't generally like to extrapolate out a full conference slate from a game or two, but if we've already started... UK went 1-1 against the Pac-12 (W vs ASU and L vs. UCLA) so by this rationale they would have finished middle of the league. They would have finished in the cellar of the Big10 since they lost to OSU in the only game against that conference, and they would have finished in the cellar of the Big12 because they lost to KU in the only game against that conference.

That said, I think UK is a pretty good team, and dangerous if they fire on all cylinders. They'll get past Stony Brook, and probably win a tight one against IU. They'll be probably 3-4 point underdogs to UNC if they meet. Should be a great game, could go either way.
 
I don't generally like to extrapolate out a full conference slate from a game or two, but if we've already started... UK went 1-1 against the Pac-12 (W vs ASU and L vs. UCLA) so by this rationale they would have finished middle of the league. They would have finished in the cellar of the Big10 since they lost to OSU in the only game against that conference, and they would have finished in the cellar of the Big12 because they lost to KU in the only game against that conference.

That said, I think UK is a pretty good team, and dangerous if they fire on all cylinders. They'll get past Stony Brook, and probably win a tight one against IU. They'll be probably 3-4 point underdogs to UNC if they meet. Should be a great game, could go either way.

I think your statement is fair. I'm not saying they would do anything in those leagues. It is a small sample size. The equivalent of what I'm saying is someone saying they would win the B10 and stating it as a fact...where as the small sample says they lost the only game they played.....so you can't make that assumption.

Some on here are stating they wouldn't do well in the ACC....but the small sample size has them 2-0 against teams that finished in the top 6. I'm not saying they would win the ACC, finish in the bottom half or do somewhat well.....just saying it's hard to say they would struggle when a small sample size (the only one we have) disagrees.

My point is Kentucky isn't a pushover. That's all I'm saying. Your last paragraph pretty much says the same thing.
 
Uk being young and improved as season went on so obviously better cuz beat top acc teams early is not a good reasoning. Duke was just aa young and UL had a lot of transfers in and new starters. Neither team was any more well oiled than UK then.
 
either way you cut it carolina/ky is a rough game to play just to get to the elite 8.
hope we both make it.
hell, i'm hoping we're not the first 1 seed to lose.
 
I think your statement is fair. I'm not saying they would do anything in those leagues. It is a small sample size. The equivalent of what I'm saying is someone saying they would win the B10 and stating it as a fact...where as the small sample says they lost the only game they played.....so you can't make that assumption.

Some on here are stating they wouldn't do well in the ACC....but the small sample size has them 2-0 against teams that finished in the top 6. I'm not saying they would win the ACC, finish in the bottom half or do somewhat well.....just saying it's hard to say they would struggle when a small sample size (the only one we have) disagrees.

My point is Kentucky isn't a pushover. That's all I'm saying. Your last paragraph pretty much says the same thing.

Coach, I am not sure I see anyone calling Ky a push over, duke finished 5th in the ACC and they certainly were not push overs. Ky is a guard led team but their front court is suspect, kinda like duke in that way actually this season. I do think duke has developed more, I do think duke shoots the ball better than Ky. So suggesting Ky would finish just behind duke to me is not calling them a push over.

Yeah, I do de-value their record considering the league they play in, it is the weakest major D-1 conference in basketball. Only the Co-champs of their regular season even made the dance, that is mid major level showing for a major D-1 conference. Dangerous, yes of course they are, no push over of a game by any means but Pitt and ND were dangerous teams as well...
 
I think UNC had better worry about Providence, … really.

Trust me, the team will be ready for Providence and they will not be looking past Providence until after that game is played. WE are locked in to survive and advance mode now and they are playing a short bus ride from our own campus.
 
I didn't leave it out. It's obvious. Everyone knows we get talent and many of our players head to the NBA after a year or two. What's your point? We still have to start over with a very young and inexperienced team every year, but by March they come around.
Well they can start working on their young team for next yr cause iu just beat that ass. The sec is garbage other than ky this yr and every yr
 
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