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After both semi's were very good games.No doubt Michigan wishes they had not taken TCU so lightly (I believe that cost them the game). We easily could have had a Michigan-Ohio State final. The "game" we had was an embarrassment to college football.
Quality football. The SEC had that long before it got almost as rich as the Big Ten. And it was the highest quality football combined with the most passionate football fans that raised the SEC in wealth multiple times. Now the SEC is able to out-spend the ACC in basketball most off the time.Woad’s obsession:
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You know a long way back what made the SEC so more dominant in football than the ACC?Quality football. The SEC had that long before it got almost as rich as the Big Ten. And it was the highest quality football combined with the most passionate football fans that raised the SEC in wealth multiple times. Now the SEC is able to out-spend the ACC in basketball most off the time.
Failure to do football right is the eventual death knell of any conference as long as money has any say. The ACC seems headed to being the next Big East, all because of that damned basketball obsession and resulting totally ignorant faith in the power of that grossly lesser sport to to save anything other than itself as a basketball-only league.
It started a long time before that, but very high academic standards were a key reason. Joe Namath might have gone to Marland for both football and basketball, but he could not get admitted. And it was easier to get into Maryland than to UNC, UVA, Dook, and probably Maryland.You know a long way back what made the SEC so more dominant in football than the ACC?
It was the 800 rule. You had to at least make an 800 on your SAT to attend.
Now in basketball with so many fewer players needed, this proved to be an obstacle that could be overcome and so the old ACC became a basketball conference.
But the real old timers wanted us to be dominant in football, and the 800 rule let the SEC become the dominant force, and the culture for football and those games flourished.
Very good points.It started a long time before that, but very high academic standards were a key reason. Joe Namath might have gone to Marland for both football and basketball, but he could not get admitted. And it was easier to get into Maryland than to UNC, UVA, Dook, and probably Maryland.
Joe Namath was smarter than a whole host of current ACC and Maryland football players.
It also affected basketball. Pete Maravich could into get into even NCSU as an NC resident soon of a coach. And carefree student Pete was a pure genius compared to a huge army of later Wuffies like Chris Washburn.
I agree. But I don’t think that’s the case anymore. Does someone know the minimum test results necessary to play football or basketball for UNC compared to a regular student?You know a long way back what made the SEC so more dominant in football than the ACC?
It was the 800 rule. You had to at least make an 800 on your SAT to attend.
Now in basketball with so many fewer players needed, this proved to be an obstacle that could be overcome and so the old ACC became a basketball conference.
But the real old timers wanted us to be dominant in football, and the 800 rule let the SEC become the dominant force, and the culture for football and those games flourished.
It's not been the case for a long time, but it shaped football history and culture, and one reason the ACC became such a strong basketball conference.I agree. But I don’t think that’s the case anymore. Does someone know the minimum test results necessary to play football or basketball for UNC compared to a regular student?
True. It was a noble game, but unrealistic. Either you play to win, or else you go Ivy. Lukewarm is a waste of everybody's time and moneyEven farther back. In the late 50's and early 60's we couldn't get players in school that Big 10 schools readily admitted.
I no longer keep up with such things. My guess is that now they are all very close.My question is if there is a difference anymore between ACC test scores and those of the SEC or B1G. Anyone know?
To win big consistently in 1 platoon football requires about twice as many 'significantly lowered standards' players as does basketball. To win consistently in 2 platoon football requires at least 4 times as many 'significantly lowered standards' players as does basketball.It's not been the case for a long time, but it shaped football history and culture, and one reason the ACC became such a strong basketball conference.
My guess as well. Someone in the know please correct me if wrong. Our beloved university is buying hired guns to make money for the school, grades be damned, just like every other school. And it appears that most of you couldn’t care less. Just win at any cost.I no longer keep up with such things. My guess is that now they are all very close.