Dumbass liberal quotes
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He's definitely good at letting the Dems punch themselves out without ever really landing a blow.
I’m not a democrat. I’m a registered independent. I am a liberal. Calling me an authoritarian is silly
Frankly, I never listened to Obama. And, if he DID use them with the frequency and context as Trump, then he was full of shit, too. I didn't vote for Obama, and never cared for him as a president. I never agreed with many, if any, of his policies.
I don't mean that the people in office before Trump never used those pronouns in public address. There is a frequency and a staple to Trump's use of them. I should probably go back to not giving a shit. It worked well in the past.
You think that way because you choose to warp the definition of authoritarian. For people like you, it isn't being authoritarian if it's for "the greater good."
I agree with that.
I'm not worried about it, either. It's simply odd, and slightly frustrating, to see other people embrace a president who revels in being an asshole. In fact, they revel in it, vicariously. Very strange to me.
No you’re just living in libertarian fantasy land where income taxes are authoritarian.
That describes every conscious, sentient person who pays any attention to social/political conditions.
If something is "necessary" for all of us, then the excuses are easy to find... if you agree with the necessity!
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Surely we can all come together to agree that marijuana should be legal.
I think it's funny, but that's because the people he's pissing off are people who have pissed all over my liberties. I just don't have any empathy for them, and I enjoy watching them suffer. I'll vote for Trump in 2020 just to watch them throw tantrums. I might as well get something out of this mess, right?
FIFY
Please tell me you get it now before my sad turns into depression.
Well, that's all you're going to actually get. If your liberties are really that important, then treating others in-kind will be a huge factor in you ever experiencing the liberties you say we should have.
See... you know that is not what he means, or thinks. Move it forward, not backward.
I'm not condoning Trump taking away the liberties of others. You don't have the right not to be offended.
I think we share far more common threads than we ever allow ourselves to acknowledge. It seems that the political climate prefers that outcome in the general population.
No one is always liberal or always conservative ALL OF THE TIME. I don't care who you are, you're never one OR the other. And, furthermore, those classifications are not universal- they're very subjective, depending on who you are and how you view society. If you base it on how outside sources measure them and attach them to individuals and groups, then it's even less reliable. Then, you're allowing those sources to pick and choose outcomes.
@tarheel0910 made an incredible suggestion about our voting process being based on issues. Instead of voting for a person, your ballot is a list of issues and you choose how you stand on them. That is how our election/voting process could have a game-changing impact to our society, and in a hurry.
No one is always liberal or always conservative ALL OF THE TIME. I don't care who you are, you're never one OR the other. And, furthermore, those classifications are not universal- they're very subjective, depending on who you are and how you view society. If you base it on how outside sources measure them and attach them to individuals and groups, then it's even less reliable. Then, you're allowing those sources to pick and choose outcomes.
@tarheel0910 made an incredible suggestion about our voting process being based on issues. Instead of voting for a person, your ballot is a list of issues and you choose how you stand on them. That is how our election/voting process could have a game-changing impact to our society, and in a hurry.
Ummm, it's a little bit different. But, not everyone believes, or knows, that all of our income taxes go straight to the debt the US government owes the Federal Reserve Banking cartel. It always has, and always will. You won't get many people to accept that kind of betrayal. They think our income taxes are going to help create a better society!
Truth. You could say I’m extremely conservative about the first amendment. Freedom of speech is the mechanism that underpins our ability to solve any problem. That’s a traditional value, so to speak, and one that should be defended at all cost. But you could also say that is the ultimate liberal principle, in the sense that freedom of expression is the most basic liberty that should be the common denominator for every human’s life experience.
Well, the Fed lending money to the us government is what allows the federal budget to improve society. Things like roads, bridges, schools, and all kinds of infrastructure are built through the federal budget. Without taxes to balance the Fed’s lending, inflation would grow to unsustainable proportions. Even with a fiat currency, you can’t just print unlimited amounts of it.
I'm a straight classical liberal in a vacuum. That being said, society doesn't operate in a vacuum.
I agree 100%.
That's sort of my point. People who call themselves "conservative" are embarrassed to believe they could ever be LIBERAL! It would be like denying your parents! It would be like calling them a blasphemer, or a traitor. They fully believe that conservative is who and what they are, at their core. Conservative actually supersedes American in their vernacular. And, the same with anyone who labels themselves a "Liberal."
They're all so caught-up in the current status of those labels, that they totally forget their true meanings and how they apply to conscious thought and applications.
No, but you can come pretty close. Could you remind me again what happened in 1971 that could have made inflation skyrocket like this?
I don't agree there.
That's just not true, from what I know of the Federal Reserve.
I'm skeptical about things like credit and interest. And, the assumption that "Everything flourishes with credit, debt and interest" is very debatable.
I remember a quote from the HBO film "Too Big To Fail" and the person speaking was Ben Bernanke. Paraphrased: "An economy built on credit has the unprecedented ability to grow an economy, and when it is removed, it can destroy it... swiftly and absolutely." That is extremely vicarious and the consequences are unthinkable.
Precisely... you remove the gold standard and it SKYROCKETS! There's nothing backing it at all now except debt and the fact that all petroleum/oil is sold in US Dollars FIRST. That's one reason why the Middle East dictators got bumped-off as terror threats. They decided to sell their oil in other ways. BULLSHIT! BOOOOM!No, but you can come pretty close. Could you remind me again what happened in 1971 that could have made inflation skyrocket like this?
I meant to say the money they get from it being lended. I would prefer to cut out the middle man and only finance the part of the budget that we can’t afford to pay with taxes. I didn’t mean to sound like I’m defending the Fed. Just pointing out that we can’t have the federal budget without taxes. If the government just printed money to pay for things then inflation would skyrocket.
It’s also backed by foreign confidence in the US. If other countries stopped holding US dollars in their reserves we would be fukked
I think the only thing keeping that afloat is, if we go down, everyone goes down, and probably much harder than we do.
Exactly. Any major war likely ends with us at the top of the rubble. But at this point a world war would likely be the end of human civilization.
Yes, it would. I can get on-board with taxes like what we experience on a state level.
But, the Fed is insidious. Look at what it has REALLY done to our economy. We're so used to it now that I think we evaluate it in a skewed way.
The Federal Reserve Act and the 16th Amendment were terrible things. We literally all got sold onto a virtual plantation with those two.
The United States doesn't issue or own its own currency. That's an enormous handicap! Every dollar in the system is a representation of perpetual debt. Debt is more powerful than bombs when it comes to really controlling a society, or even the world. If someone is in your debt, they're almost like walking dead, depending on how the debtor chooses to have it paid-back! It's really amazing how people rarely understand the scope of how debt rules us individually and collectively.
Exactly... and that's how vicarious it really is. It is a little less scary than if electricity suddenly stopped working!
Our SSN is a pawn ticket.
All of our federal income taxes go to the US Treasury, who then signs it over to the Federal Reserve bank. That is how it was designed. They promise to fund everything, if they get it back with interest. The US Congress and Woodrow Wilson- in 1913- said "Sounds like a plan!" And, that sealed the deal. The Fed has funded more war than would have ever been possible before it literally became legalized into reality.
See, @NoleSoup4U , we got a liberal who hates The Fed up in here! Score!
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