Hey Hark why the hate for labron? U mentioned hes a prick because you think he wants his stats more than chips. Really? Honest question btw. Just wondering
Durant to Golden State.
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It's not exactly the same thing. When Barkley and Drexler went to Houston, it was later in their careers when the window was closing so of course they wanted to be traded to a contender. Same with Malone and Payton. But those guys carried teams at their peak and the only reason they didn't win championships (with Malone and Barkley anyway) was a guy called Michael Jordan. But no one was clambering to join Chicago when no one could beat them now where they? Even with restrictions in the CBA. It made for a more interesting league.
I agree with @HeelFan58, that there really is no team loyalty anymore and individual legacy is starting to matter more. Durant is only 27 and in the prime of his career, he should have given the Thunder at least one more shot. Instead, another small market team is now gutted, and only two teams at most, have any shot at the title next year.
My bad, I included LeBron as an example of an ego that doesn't mesh with others well, I wasnt trying to imply that he wants stats more than championships. It was clear he wanted this recent championship badly. Now I wouldn't be surprised if that became the case now that he already won one in Cleveland, but he definitely wanted the championship more this time around.
His whole televised "Decision" and getting any coach that disagrees with him fired, along with his general demeanor in post game conferences (if something went well it's "I" and if something went wrong it's "we" or "my teammates"), and things like his 15 foot flop when his own teammate grazed him in the face are reasons why I dislike him. Also, he can take 5 steps on the way to the basket and not only not get called for a travel, but probably get an "and 1" too. This isn't really on him per se, since that's more a league/official problem of always bowing down to LeBron, but it doesn't help his image in my book either.
Unintended consequences at work. All those hand wringing over exorbitant player salaries need to realize that the max contracts work to make the league less competitive because players have more team choices with no monetary difference. You could also argue that being on a championship team is more important in one way now because the price controls don't apply to endorsement deals.
This happened long before LeBron. Barkley demanded a trade from the 76ers to the Suns to join a team with 2 all stars. Malone/Payton joined Shaq and Kobe. Barkley then joined Hakeem's Rockets. All in effort to win a championship. LeBron perfected it. But this has been part of the NBA for a while. Been happening in college for a while too.
Thanks for the reply and I do agree with the drama being crap, and the flopping. The decision in my opinion was a huge mistake and I think he does regret the way he did it. I wish he would play like the last three games after green called him out. In fact all of the nba could look at that example and realize you don't have to play weak and beg for calls every time you touch the ball.
Barkley claimed that Durant is cheating to get to a title.
I wouldn't say it's cheating, but Charles definitely feels KD is taking the easy way out. And before anyone says Barkley did the same thing, the scenarios are different. He got out of Philly because after Moses Malone and Dr. J retired they couldn't contend with the Knicks, Pistons, or Bulls. And he was 34 when he went to the Rockets, who still had Olajuwon and Drexler, and on the downside of his career.
My point is Kevin Durant's window with OKC is far from shut, while Barkley was simply conscious of what would get him closest to a championship at the time.
I wouldn't say it's cheating, but Charles definitely feels KD is taking the easy way out. And before anyone says Barkley did the same thing, the scenarios are different. He got out of Philly because after Moses Malone and Dr. J retired they couldn't contend with the Knicks, Pistons, or Bulls. And he was 34 when he went to the Rockets, who still had Olajuwon and Drexler, and on the downside of his career.
My point is Kevin Durant's window with OKC is far from shut, while Barkley was simply conscious of what would get him closest to a championship at the time.
I don't really have a problem with what KD did at all.
I do find it comical that the Bulls signed Wade though. They think they have a chance with a Butler, Wade, Rondo trio haha. They won't even sniff the Cavs (if they even face them) in the East - and the Cavs won't sniff the Warriors. The Bulls are far off from a contender.
I do find it comical that the Bulls signed Wade though. They think they have a chance with a Butler, Wade, Rondo trio haha. They won't even sniff the Cavs (if they even face them) in the East - and the Cavs won't sniff the Warriors. The Bulls are far off from a contender.
Besides Barkley (which was a trade, and no he didn't demand a trade to just the Suns), everyone was either at the latter or past their prime. LeBron started this in your prime. Not sure how this isn't obvious.
There was more to it for the Bulls. This signing is also looking at 2017 when the Bulls will have room for another max guy. Wade can help recruit to join him and Butler. CP3? Westbrook? Blake Griffin? 2017 FA class is loaded.
Agreed. Wade is at end of his career. don't know how many years he signed, don't care either, but I'd be surprised if he can give them 60+ games a year any year going forward. And I'd be surprised if he is not on a track to retire in 3 years or less.
no shame on me. I agree and went back and fixed it even after multiple beers tonight.
LOL Sorry Jericho I'm as country as cornbread. It took me five reads to get it. LOL
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