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EJ vs Hagans...

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...Newton (Hagans) beat Wheeler (EJ) in state playoffs down here. I heard Brad was in the house, checking on EJ (obviously), and conveniently Hagans...
 
Gary do you think if Roy offers Hagan then Felton isn't coming back??
 
Hagan is staying in the 2019 class. Won't matter to Felton next year.
Well... that part is unclear. There are conflicting reports even down here. If he stays in '19 he'll be too old to play GHSA then and would have to do prep/private school. He originally decided to reclassify when he committed to UGA. Would he go ahead and do it with another school coming in? Maybe. Roy's not gonna touch that situation unless he thinks it's on the up-and-up, but right now I couldn't tell ya either way.
 
It would be nice to get EJ but has he been fooled by the dark blue Kool-Aid? We have Francis coming in and he's a top 50 kid. Hagans is #6 overall and #1 at his position as I recall. 247 has him with FSU and UGa leading, we're in third.
 
Well... that part is unclear. There are conflicting reports even down here. If he stays in '19 he'll be too old to play GHSA then and would have to do prep/private school. He originally decided to reclassify when he committed to UGA. Would he go ahead and do it with another school coming in? Maybe. Roy's not gonna touch that situation unless he thinks it's on the up-and-up, but right now I couldn't tell ya either way.
If we could only pull one more player and Hagans and EJ were our options, who would benefit us the most next year? With or without Felton.
 
Gary do you think if Roy offers Hagan then Felton isn't coming back??
That would seem to be the likely trade-off.
Roy actually offered Hagans previously but Francis popped first for that 19 class. I would be surprised if Roy revisits that recruitment (he'd definitely vet out the reclassification thing) but for all Roy's bombast about having guys coming in who can play Point, welp, let's get real... 7th? White? Black? Color me highly skeptical. So, who knows?
 
...Newton (Hagans) beat Wheeler (EJ) in state playoffs down here. I heard Brad was in the house, checking on EJ (obviously), and conveniently Hagans...

If Cam leaves, we'll have 2 open spots...I'd love for those 2 to be teammates at UNC.
 
If Cam leaves, we'll have 2 open spots...I'd love for those 2 to be teammates at UNC.

Why does anyone still think Cam is going anywhere? He's not even considered a top 100 NBA draft prospect (no one on our roster is per ESPN's latest top 100 rankings). Remember how hard he fought while transferring to keep his 2 years of eligibility? Also, doesn't anyone else feel like Roy would've acknowledged him at senior night, maybe not to the same level as Joel or Theo, if he there was any reason to think he'd be gone? At least start him over Luke with the other 4 seniors?
 
Why does anyone still think Cam is going anywhere? He's not even considered a top 100 NBA draft prospect (no one on our roster is per ESPN's latest top 100 rankings). Remember how hard he fought while transferring to keep his 2 years of eligibility? Also, doesn't anyone else feel like Roy would've acknowledged him at senior night, maybe not to the same level as Joel or Theo, if he there was any reason to think he'd be gone? At least start him over Luke with the other 4 seniors?
NBA is not the only place a player can get paid to play basketball and he already has his degree. Transferring and keeping his two years of eligibility had a lot to do with Johnson wanting to play at UNC. Plus if he had lost a year he would have had to sit out this year, which would have derailed any chance of Johnson going pro after this season.
 
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Ouch his attorney was not playing in her statement. Saying we broke him and he doesn't trust us. Dang could impact some recruits. Wonder how the family is taking it.
 
Really sucks I met him at late night. Very well spoken, he talked to me for 15-20 minutes. When he talked about UNC his eyes lit up. He even told another fan to chill while talking to me, because the fan just kept calling his name. He autographed my kids shirts for hen he really wasn't supposed to even made sure I got my visa-vis back. Them things ain't cheap. He will always be a heel to me.
 
Ouch his attorney was not playing in her statement. Saying we broke him and he doesn't trust us. Dang could impact some recruits. Wonder how the family is taking it.

The alternative is the school ignores allegations, and ends up in a Michigan State situation. UNC was right to be patient and let it play out, even if it "broke" Jalek and he now doesn't trust the school. Much bigger issue than basketball.
 
The alternative is the school ignores allegations, and ends up in a Michigan State situation. UNC was right to be patient and let it play out, even if it "broke" Jalek and he now doesn't trust the school. Much bigger issue than basketball.
This is true but the justice system is not supposed to work that way; it's innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty until proven innocent
 
This is true but the justice system is not supposed to work that way; it's innocent until proven guilty. Not guilty until proven innocent

No one has formally declared him guilty of anything. He's choosing to move on before the investigation is over. He had to make a choice, and he's doing that. We have no idea what information is driving the investigation; what we know is no one from the school, team, or police department has said a single word to declare him guilty at this point. His lawyer is representing him the way she should, but no one (that matters) has declared him guilty.
 
No one has formally declared him guilty of anything. He's choosing to move on before the investigation is over. He had to make a choice, and he's doing that. We have no idea what information is driving the investigation; what we know is no one from the school, team, or police department has said a single word to declare him guilty at this point. His lawyer is representing him the way she should, but no one (that matters) has declared him guilty.
They don't have to; public opinion can be a mug
 
They don't have to; public opinion can be a mug

Fine, but no one at UNC has done anything unconstitutional in terms of the state declaring him guilty without due process. Seems to me he's getting a pretty thorough investigation before being charged or permanently punished with nothing being leaked whatsoever. We've heard some accusations from a student on Twitter, and some statements by his own lawyer, but nothing from anyone connected with the school or the government. No one's violating his rights by temporarily holding him out of school while investigating allegations.
 
Fine, but no one at UNC has done anything unconstitutional in terms of the state declaring him guilty without due process. Seems to me he's getting a pretty thorough investigation before being charged or permanently punished with nothing being leaked whatsoever. We've heard some accusations from a student on Twitter, and some statements by his own lawyer, but nothing from anyone connected with the school or the government. No one's violating his rights by temporarily holding him out of school while investigating allegations.
Fair enough... Now I am hearing he was snap chatting naked pics of a 14 yr old girl?
 
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I'll still wait to find out when the info is official. I do not put any credence in social media OR the words of his lawyer!
Yeah, these things are dynamic. Jalek withdrawing from the University doesn't mean anything at this point as to whether or not he can return. He'd have to start a semester fresh anyway.

The real question is whether he is allowed to or still wants to. Sounds like the latter is in the negative right now.
 
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