Well I know the first (ford) and he was the greatest pg at unc ever
Paxson looks like a bench player to me during the regular season. He has contagious energy and plays with some edge. But it’s cute that he’s starting.
And Jalen Washington needs to get a helluva lot more PT.
We have a winner! He started in the Tar Heels first game that year as a Freshman against Notre Dame and played 37 mins at PG. Can’t remember another UNC Freshman PG who started immediately like that other than Phil Ford. Ford was the first Freshman during Dean Smith’s tenure to start in the first game of his career. Cole had his moments but also had his struggles.
Not just Caleb. RJ, Cole, and Coby White all started the first game of their freshman season. It's become almost an annual occurrence, so not sure why you're harkening back to Phil Ford.
Cadeau is being challenged now, he is having to stretch himself now, what came easy in high school is no longer easy against D-1 athletes. I suspect in practice, maybe I should say I would if in Hubert's position, I would match Seth up on him. Let him have to deal with one of it not the best back court defender in the college game. Forge him in that fire now so he is hardened for late season.
I'd like to see Seth and EC on the floor more together. Seth has gone full blown stupid athletic and he and EC compliment one another well. I think Seth EC Washington Bacot and Ingram would be a great group to put on the floor together .. RJ is another one of those legacy players whose time has past. He's not really a very good PG and he's surely undersized as a 2G. Also somewhat of a liability on defense. HD's continues to not play his best 5 and still very questionable on some of his game coaching. imo
How do Trimble and Cadeau complement each other though? They both can't shoot (or Cadeau can't yet at least). I'd want to surround Cadeau with shooters he can kick to, not another penetrating lead guard.
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Cadeau is probably the guy best suited to throw lobs for Trimble.
Fair point. My thinking was if we are going to put our best athletes on the floor and score in transition then you need your best defensive team and that would include Trimble. EC's shot will come from the outside when he settles in and shakes off the pressure from where he is. Love RJ and what he's done for the program but if you want to be a transition team that does the Roy Williams UNC "can't go fast enough" then RJ is not that type player... he plays to much laterally. @gary-7 posted the transition stats with RJ and EC and it's fairly stark and it's early in the season and RJ has more PT. Like many have said, we are not starting our best 5, and I'd say by a long shot. Another flaw with HD is he will not give his younger, and possibly better, players PT early against lesser teams. Makes no sense to me. Seems we're almost doing another repeat of seasons past. Hope that's not the case.
Not sure throwing lobs for a 6'3 guard should be a major factor in a college basketball game.
See my last post in the "stuff" thread. That number is completely out ofr context.
They were EASILY our best defensive backcourt, and it wasn't close.
Couldn’t agree more.
LOL, Cadeau and Seth at least IMO is our best defensive mix of point and 2 guard, I think by a LOT but from a purely defensive aspect Seth and Ryan is pretty stout. But Cadeau and RJ is our best offensive duo. It is a matter of which of these duos can improve their weak spots and jury is still out but it does look to me like Seth has taken it up a notch offensively and I do believe Cadeau will. I can't say that I see RJ having taken his defensive game up from last season and he just isn't going to get any taller. RJ works hard on both ends, not trying to throw shade at him but he is short and not the quickest 5'10" guy in the college game.
I'm comfortable with him working his way up to it.
I'm just not seeing that bro. RJ against UCR was 3-11 FG and 1-7 from three and only had 1 FT. That is incredibly unimpressive for a UNC senior PG or 2 guard and this is against UCR !!!! When RJ gets to playing some of the better comp coming up quick he will be exposed as a serious liability. He is not a PG either. Marginal handle .. plays laterally and when he does that he's looking for his own shot. If UNC intends to thrive in transition then it aint gonna happen with RJ on the floor. If UNC wants to put their best 5 on the floor then it aint RJ or Cormac in the line up and hubcap needs to get get his head out his hind end and realize the obvious... once again we are seeing last year take duex. imo
I don’t know why it’s a “force” to start Cadeau if he’s your best PG. To me, it’s more of a force to start Wojcik if he isn’t one of your 5 best players.
He's going to be our best PG. We can already see that. But is he right now? Maybe, but we don't need to put him through what Marcus went through.
Three or 4 of us here thought Withers should start. At the moment it looks like bringing Withers off the bench was the right decision - although how much of that is because the concussion meant he got off to a slow start?
Agree and it isn't as if Cadeau is not playing, he got 22mins last game while RJ played a team high of 28mins. Way to much is put on who begins the game but it is the minutes that you play that really matter. To even suggest that Cadeau has struggled to shoot to a degree because he is not starting indicates that you think Cadeau mentally fragile? Marcus did not start off shooting great either, in fact most fans were questioning why he was starting ahead of PJ.
I guess I don’t see anybody else on this roster who’s a better pg than EC.
