Fake Nunes . . .

[BillyL]

What a desperate POS this little fvck is, and just more evidence that he is just another one of Trump's little coffee boys, and this dude is the head of an Intelligence Committee. LMFAO

You can't make this shit up, folks . .

 

[UNC71-00]

Actually, you can make it up and you just did.

The changes made were at the request of the Democrats and FBI.

In short, your boy requested changes, the White House made a few of them, and now he is complaining that changes were made. That makes about as much sense as you and your OOTB boys make on a daily basis around here.

What are you scared of anyway? Why all the big fuss about some memo?

 

[nctransplant]

Adam Schiff, lol. The FBI already said nothing in the memo was incorrect.

 

[BillyL]

I ain't skared. When Nunes didn't want to even let the Head of the Senate investigation committee head, Richard Burr, look at the memo he requested to view, that sends up a red flag . . and apparently, the memo had some help with folks in the White House as well. That creates a lot of doubt over the validity of this memo does it not . . ?

If, Nunes made alterations to the memo, then why would he not share that with his House counterpart, Adam Schiff . . ? He and Schiff have been at odds for quite some time now, and Schiff has outsmarted him once again.

Nunes is running interference for his daddy in the WH, plain and simple . . he's done that once already.

The FBI does not want it released, specifically Director Wray, and DOJ Deputy AG Rosenstein, have pleaded to the POTUS not to because of the dangers of doing so. Both are Trump boys correct . . ? The FBI has grave concerns over the memo, get your facts straight . .

All in all, this is just another POTUS attack on the FBI to make Mueller's investigation look suspect.

 

[uncboy10]

This moronic memo is the beginning of Trump's Saturday night massacre. The attack on mueller and his investigation really only makes sense from one perspective. If trump is guilty and trying to obstruct justice. Who knows what he is actually guilty of... But ya don't attack an investigation like this unless you're scared he's got something on you.

 

[DeanFor President]

After it's behavior, the FBI NEEDS attacking, and Mueller's investigation IS suspect. It needs no help in appearing that way.
Where is the evidence?

 

[gunslingerdick]

This moronic memo is the beginning of Trump's Saturday night massacre. The attack on mueller and his investigation really only makes sense from one perspective. If trump is guilty and trying to obstruct justice. Who knows what he is actually guilty of... But ya don't attack an investigation like this unless you're scared he's got something on you.

I disagree. Trump is childish and could simply being going after Mueller to show he’s the biggest bully in the schoolyard. I agree that for most people, your theory would be accurate. But Trump is a different animal.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

And we thought Nuk was obsessed with straw men and never going to happen indictments.

 

[BillyL]

And we thought Nuk was obsessed with straw men and never going to happen indictments.

I think Nuk predicted the Anthony Weiner indictment . . I could be wrong tho.

Flynn, Papadop, Gates & Manafort were indicted . . with Flynn & Mueller together both filing for a 90 day extension to the legal procedure . . likely because Flynn is singing like a canary, and is providing credible evidence to Mueller's team.

Obsession until the confession I am . .

 

[gunslingerdick]

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Fake news. The changes Piece of Schiff is wankin' about were made BEFORE the Committee voted on #ReleaseTheMemo. $hillyL is the desperate fvck.

 

[ProfessorOwl]

Seems like there's an awful lot of consternation over a "fake news" memo. I can't keep track of all the liberal narratives over this thing. First it's fake, then it's damaging to our intelligence "institutions", then it's obstruction of justice, now it's altered.

It's super simple folks. FISA was abused to illegally surveil a presidential candidate/president-elect. In other words, worse than watergate.

 

[prlyles]

Seems like there's an awful lot of consternation over a "fake news" memo. I can't keep track of all the liberal narratives over this thing. First it's fake, then it's damaging to our intelligence "institutions", then it's obstruction of justice, now it's altered.

It's super simple folks. FISA was abused to illegally surveil a presidential candidate/president-elect. In other words, worse than watergate.

Yeah, that’s it...

 

[BillyL]

Seems like there's an awful lot of consternation over a "fake news" memo. I can't keep track of all the liberal narratives over this thing. First it's fake, then it's damaging to our intelligence "institutions", then it's obstruction of justice, now it's altered.

It's super simple folks. FISA was abused to illegally surveil a presidential candidate/president-elect. In other words, worse than watergate.

Pure Bullshit . .

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Seems like there's an awful lot of consternation over a "fake news" memo. I can't keep track of all the liberal narratives over this thing. First it's fake, then it's damaging to our intelligence "institutions", then it's obstruction of justice, now it's altered.

It's super simple folks. FISA was abused to illegally surveil a presidential candidate/president-elect. In other words, worse than watergate.

Outstanding, well executed analysis. This argument can't be broken.

 

[BillyL]

Hey @ProfessorOwl . . welcome to the board of Pubby BS, and btw, go fvck yourself for accepting Dickie-Do's invite to this board.

It's how we on OOTB roll . .

 

[tarheel0910]

Regardless of whether the warrant was valid, I feel like the existence of the FISA court is shady.

 

[BillyL]

The memo has been released :

 

[BillyL]

Regardless of whether the warrant was valid, I feel like the existence of the FISA court is shady.

Why do you feel that way . . ?

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

If there’s nothing to hide... then what’s the issue here? Let it come out to show everyone.

 

[CanuckChuck]

If there’s nothing to hide... then what’s the issue here? Let it come out to show everyone.

I'm not 100% up to speed on all this stuff but isn't the FBI's/DOJ position that

1. It's cherry picked info that although factual will give the incorrect impression when taken out of context
2. Reveals information that could be detrimental to national security

1 is totally believable
2 is unknown until we see it

CC

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I'm not 100% up to speed on all this stuff but isn't the FBI's/DOJ position that

1. It's cherry picked info that although factual will give the incorrect impression when taken out of context
2. Reveals information that could be detrimental to national security

1 is totally believable
2 is unknown until we see it

CC

Could be. For #1 I would say, well then let's release it and if there's more to the story, then that stuff can be made available as well to give the full picture.

For #2, agreed it's unknown. It seems to be a convenient thing for the FBI to do, be able to fall back on that excuse anytime there is information that could be detrimental to them, they claim it's detrimental to national security to prevent its release. Maybe if they could better explain how it would be detrimental that could lend some credence to the argument.

 

[nctransplant]

I just read it and I don't see where it could possibly hurt national security.

 

[CanuckChuck]

Could be. For #1 I would say, well then let's release it and if there's more to the story, then that stuff can be made available as well to give the full picture.

For #2, agreed it's unknown. It seems to be a convenient thing for the FBI to do, be able to fall back on that excuse anytime there is information that could be detrimental to them, they claim it's detrimental to national security to prevent its release. Maybe if they could better explain how it would be detrimental that could lend some credence to the argument.

Well, it's out. What do people think? I assume the majority of responses will be either "Nothingburger, we already knew all this" or "See, the FBI is out to get Trump". Any other takes?

CC

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Well, it's out. What do people think? I assume the majority of responses will be either "Nothingburger, we already knew all this" or "See, the FBI is out to get Trump". Any other takes?

CC

I haven't read it yet - what was so damaging to national security that many were pushing to stop the release?

 

[CanuckChuck]

I just read it and I don't see where it could possibly hurt national security.

I agree. I figured it might have some mention of earlier Page/Russian activity that might compromise some other current operations but it appears that most of the memo is already common knowledge.

CC

 

[CanuckChuck]

I haven't read it yet - what was so damaging to national security that many were pushing to stop the release?

Other than the FBI saying "Hey, trying to make us look bad is damaging national security", IDK.

CC

 

[nctransplant]

Other than the FBI saying "Hey, trying to make us look bad is damaging national security", IDK.

CC

It is pretty embarrassing that they used the dossier to secure the warrants. Steele played them. It's also embarrassing that Or was a go-between between the FBI and GPS, where his wife was employed. Not to mention the fact that the document was paid for by the DNC.

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

The big take-aways from the memo:

1) FBI/DOJ knew the dossier was funded by the DNC and $Hillary campaign for the very get-go.
2) The FBI/DOJ knew the dossier was not verified, yet passed it off as legitimate intel to FISA Court Judge.
3) The FISA application did not mention Fusion GPS or Perkins Coie lawfirm role in financing the effort. The Judge was not told that the FISA application was based on DNC/$hill opposition research vice validated government intelligence. The judge was not told that the information in the FISA application was paid for by the DNC and $hill campaign or the fact that the FBI was also paying Steele at the same time. All the judge was told was that Steele was involved.
4) McCabe stated that he knew that the warrant to spy on Carter Page would not have been sought without the dossier; likewise, the FISA warrant would not have been granted without presenting the dossier off as legit intel.
5) The FISA application relied heavily on a YAHOO NEWS article by Michael Isikoff, whose source was none other than Steele. This and other interactions with the news media resulted in Steele's suspension and termination as an FBI source and informant. However, subsequent reauthorizations of the FISA warrant continued to rely on Steele's information and the FISA judge was never informed of Steele's termination as a source.
6) Numerous FBI/DOJ officials were involved in the illegal misleading of the FISA court: Comey; McCabe; DAGs Yates, Boente, and Rothenstein.
7) Steele's desperate desire to prevent Trump from being elected was communicated to Bruce Ohr at DOJ and subsequently communicated to the FBI; however, this bias was never included in any of the FISA application paperwork.
8) The Papadopoulos drunken rant sparked another FBI counterintelligence investigation; however, no evidence of conspiracy or cooperation between Papadopoulos and Page. Strzok was subsequently removed from the Mueller investigation for manifest bias and inappropriate texting with Lisa Page, discussions about needing an insurance policy against Trump's election.

FYI - Comey was fired; McCabe has been removed as DDFBI; Yates was fired; Strzok and Page removed from investigations

 

[ProfessorOwl]

This is the danger of secret courts that approve secret warrants for secret surveillance. It will inevitably be used against domestic political opponents.

For all the liberals out there, imagine if the FBI/DOJ under Bush had done this to the Obama election team. Would you be ok with it?

 

[UNC71-00]

Well, it's out. What do people think? I assume the majority of responses will be either "Nothingburger, we already knew all this" or "See, the FBI is out to get Trump". Any other takes?

CC

Correct, but to those who think it's a nothingburger, they need to explain why Mueller even needs a job at this point. Obviously the whole Russia collusion angle is a farce and has been a farce since the get go, so why the need for any investigation?

My thoughts on this have always been that the Clintons must be guilty of collusion with Russia, because their go to move is always to accuse other people of crimes which the Clintons themselves committed. Probably has something to do with the uranium thing, if I were betting.

 

[UNC71-00]

This is the danger of secret courts that approve secret warrants for secret surveillance. It will inevitably be used against domestic political opponents.

For all the liberals out there, imagine if the FBI/DOJ under Bush had done this to the Obama election team. Would you be ok with it?

Or what if Trump puts all democrat congressional candidates under surveillance this summer? Shouldn't be any problem with that.

 

[CanuckChuck]

Correct, but to those who think it's a nothingburger, they need to explain why Mueller even needs a job at this point. Obviously the whole Russia collusion angle is a farce and has been a farce since the get go, so why the need for any investigation?

Even with all the dealings with Russia Trump's team has admitted, the indictments, the lack of any financial transparency, you think it's a farce?

My thoughts on this have always been that the Clintons must be guilty of collusion with Russia, because their go to move is always to accuse other people of crimes which the Clintons themselves committed. Probably has something to do with the uranium thing, if I were betting.

And this is why the reactions will be either A or B. You already knew that Russia was BS and it was a Clinton's fault from the get go. I bet if video came out of Trump with two hookers taking a dump on him, you'd think it was more proof that the Steele was FOS since it shows Trump isn't into water sports.

CC

 

[Heels Noir]

Nunes and his little friends
Vowed to bring the pain
But Devin's memo whiffed today
Like a fart in a hurricane
- Rick Wilson, self-proclaimed "GOP Media Guy"

So much for the big hullabaloo. Let the Mueller investigation continue! That is all.

 

[UNC71-00]

Even with all the dealings with Russia Trump's team has admitted, the indictments, the lack of any financial transparency, you think it's a farce?

Tell me about the dealings.

The indictments were not for collusion, but rather making false statements to the FBI. Who knows what that is about?

What kind of financial transparency are you looking for? The kind where Mueller refuses to disclose his budget and the cost of the investigation to date? Or do you something else in mind?

As to the rest of your poast, I automatically think anything that the Clintons do is illegal or improper. It's the whole "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" thing. But you keep on believing in them if you want.

 

[UNC71-00]

Nunes and his little friends
Vowed to bring the pain
But Devin's memo whiffed today
Like a fart in a hurricane
- Rick Wilson, self-proclaimed "GOP Media Guy"

So much for the big hullabaloo. Let the Mueller investigation continue! That is all.

Next stop, IG report. Mueller might not even be around for that.

 

[nctransplant]

Next stop, IG report. Mueller might not even be around for that.

I guess all of those already demoted or asked to leave were for no reason.

 

[CanuckChuck]

Tell me about the dealings.

Google is your friend.

The indictments were not for collusion, but rather making false statements to the FBI. Who knows what that is about?

Since the FBI was asking them about Russia, uh, IDK, Russia?

What kind of financial transparency are you looking for? The kind where Mueller refuses to disclose his budget and the cost of the investigation to date? Or do you something else in mind?

Tax returns, overseas interests, overseas investment in domestic interests, that type of thing. Am I asking for too much?
Oh - and I'm sure that the cost has been far less than what was spent on Benghazi or Whitewater.

As to the rest of your poast, I automatically think anything that the Clintons do is illegal or improper. It's the whole "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" thing. But you keep on believing in them if you want.

I'm sorry the Clinton's fooled you somehow. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to trust politicians. I guess since they are criminal masterminds they must be worth billions by now.

CC

 

[Nuk'EM Heels]

Much more coming... Only about 15% released so far. Tick Tock

 

[UNC71-00]

Google is your friend.

Google certainly isn't yours.

Since the FBI was asking them about Russia, uh, IDK, Russia?

Maybe. Or maybe about something having nothing at all to do with Russia. Because there is no evidence of any improper dealings anywhere other than Hillary and uranium.

Tax returns, overseas interests, overseas investment in domestic interests, that type of thing. Am I asking for too much?
Oh - and I'm sure that the cost has been far less than what was spent on Benghazi or Whitewater.

I think he should disclose his tax returns too, so no. And why are you sure of that?

I'm sorry the Clinton's fooled you somehow. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to trust politicians. I guess since they are criminal masterminds they must be worth billions by now.

CC

The Clintons are worth about $125 million at last estimate, so they are well on their way. They have really done well for a couple of lifelong politicians.