Fedora talks to Jones Angell
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Plus we had 2 TOs. We called those two on D. After the int.
Ok, everyone knows the 5th year Senior crapped the bed. Everyone with a brain recognized it. Now, the question is why didn't the HC and OC didn't? Nothing more, nothing less. At what point does a coach says, you don't have it, hand the ball off and let's take advantage of what is working and maybe, later we come back to you throwing the ball.
Again, I will point to Spurrier and him going to the run, letting his QB settle down and then calling short passes for his INEXPERIENCE qb to get a feel for the game. It worked. So, why was it difficult for our HC and OC to do the same? Do you really want to PUT it in the hands of your rattle 5th year, senior QB who clearly demonstrated that he was not up to the task at hand? It is that sample. Yes, the QB wet the bed but the HC and OC did worst by not doing their jobs. You know, placing their team in a position to win with the best possible play available to them. Handing the ball of to your star RB who average approximately 10.5 yards a carry is without a doubt the best play available for the majority of the game.
Again, I will point to Spurrier and him going to the run, letting his QB settle down and then calling short passes for his INEXPERIENCE qb to get a feel for the game. It worked. So, why was it difficult for our HC and OC to do the same? Do you really want to PUT it in the hands of your rattle 5th year, senior QB who clearly demonstrated that he was not up to the task at hand? It is that sample. Yes, the QB wet the bed but the HC and OC did worst by not doing their jobs. You know, placing their team in a position to win with the best possible play available to them. Handing the ball of to your star RB who average approximately 10.5 yards a carry is without a doubt the best play available for the majority of the game.
defending a 4th and goal from the 12 is a lot different from defending a 4th and goal from the 4.
that was MW fault.
I'll say it again. Both picks in the endzone. There were guys open. Both throws bad mechanics. First feet crossed and not set. Second throw across his body.
That may be so, but as a coach wouldn't it not make since to run the ball on short yardage, especially when your opponent had zero answer for your running game. Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. MW throwing the ball and all three situations should ave never occurred when your running game was performing that well.
Okay, there's a lot of posters on here with this general sentiment after every game. I don't know if you've ever played or coached football but you can't just run the one or two plays that are most effective every single play. For the running game to continue to be effective, throwing the ball had to remain a threat. Did we pick the best time to throw it? No, but again look at Quise's red zone stats coming into thursday night. He had never thrown a single interception. Even after the first one, you don't assume he's going to throw another.
I have said in other posts on 3rd from the 3 Hood should have been on there. No question. Even if it was only for a decoy. With him in there. Spread the field. If they stocked the box. Play action. Tons of guys would be open. If they play straight up give it to Hood. With our offense. We don't just line up and rum the play called the first time. That's why they look towards the sideline for the play change after the D is set. The picks are on MW not the coaches. That's what I was talking about in the thing you quoted of mine. And receivers were open. So how can you blame that on the coach is all I'm saying. Before that third down play from the three. Name a bad play call that you can blame on the coaches. And don't say the INTs. That's not play calling. Those were all on MW. And the young man will tell you the same. Now while at the game I did keep complaining. Why do they keep taking Hood out of the game after making nice runs? He can't be tired. That I can agree with you.
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Not running Hood after the first and goal at the nine was all on the coaches. After the long run give him a break but at the least he should of been in the game and got the ball on third down from the three.
To be fair if they had still handed it to Logan, or Tyson we probably still would've scored. I understand getting #34 a breather but we have plenty of other great RB's to hand it to. But at the same time with Quise's career red zone numbers I would've had plenty of confidence in him as well.
as i recall carolina hasn't been very good in the red zone the last 2-3 years.
if someone has the stats feel free to correct me.
Fifth, but close enough. That comes with an asterisk because our FG kicking was so bad we often had no choice but to go for it on 4th downs. Fortunately it worked out in our favor more often than not.seven in the nation td percentage in red zone.
i am quite frustrated as well - not the diehard fan that most of you are ... still a big fan ... i know you can't do this, but eliminate one of 70-ish plays and we win ... don't think i am overly confident in MW - he must get better and make better decisions or ...
i know, i know - close but no cigar ... we will get much better as the season progresses !
i know, i know - close but no cigar ... we will get much better as the season progresses !
Maybe it's like when you order fajitas at a Mexican place and they bring it out on that oval-shaped skillet and there's still a lot of steam or smoke or who knows what coming off them so you lean in for a big whiff and then whoa you realize maybe you got a little overexcited about your meal and probably should've eased into that a bit but it's too late because your nasal passages are already tweaked and now everything's just going to smell a little funny for the next few hours but oh yeah you forgot you still have those delicious fajitas to dig into and sure hope the waitress brought you extra cheese like you asked for because usually you run out after like one and a half tortillas and there's no way you can fit all those ingredients into just three tortillas anyway.
the problem is 3-4 hours afterward when the sphincter finally surrenders and you forgot the poop pourri..
Here's the deal with Fedora: you can easily look at what he has had to deal with over the past few years (recruiting), justify his decisions (MW zero red zone Ints before last Thurs), and his recent moves (hiring Chizik) and give him a pass.
You can also easily look at his bad decisions (keeping Vic, not using Hood), look at the relatively weak schedule, etc and hold his ass over the fire.
Fedora acts like a dick- plain and simple- whenever interviewed or at press conferences. Either that or he is completely over his head and has no idea what the answer is for a particular question. And because he is a dick, I am more likely to view his decisions in a negative light as opposed to a positive one.
Of course, winning cures everything. But because he is a dick (or acts like one), he needs to win now because he hired his replacement this summer.
You can also easily look at his bad decisions (keeping Vic, not using Hood), look at the relatively weak schedule, etc and hold his ass over the fire.
Fedora acts like a dick- plain and simple- whenever interviewed or at press conferences. Either that or he is completely over his head and has no idea what the answer is for a particular question. And because he is a dick, I am more likely to view his decisions in a negative light as opposed to a positive one.
Of course, winning cures everything. But because he is a dick (or acts like one), he needs to win now because he hired his replacement this summer.
Pretty much agreed with everything up until this part. I don't understand why people keep saying this. If Fedora fails, it's almost certainly because Chizik fails, and they're both gone. The only scenario where Chizik ends up as UNC's head coach is if we experience wild success and Fedora moves up the food chain. As much as I'd like to see that happen, well....
Well, last week Chizik most certainly did not fail- that L is on Fedora's vaunted offense.
Here's how Chizik ends up as head coach and it's not even hard to envision: the D improves to a middle of the road (top 75) unit while the offensive play calling continues to lose games.
Those are some long odds. The defense still gave up 250+ yards rushing and almost 400 total against SC. We only held them to 17 because Spurrier got cute. I'm still far more concerned about the D than the O.
To me, it is even more moronic to WANT him as our HC. He has an abysmal record as a HC, at two different schools. Before you chant "title" at me, that was due to Cam Newton and having GM as OC... the same GM that came back to Auburn, after Chizik crashed and burned, and had them RIGHT BACK in the title game.
^^^^^ Yeah, definitely makes you wonder whether he's one of those guys who's much better as a DC than a head coach. Guys like Carl Torbush, Will Muschamp, etc.
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