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TarHeelMark

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You know you're old when you you've watched two generations of royal weddings. I can remember it like it was yesterday. It was like the Earth stood still when Charles and Diana got married. Seriously, it was bigger than the moon landing, the World Cup or Reagan's attempted assassination. People took off work, rearranged vacations and such so that they could tune in to this wedding. Was bizarre to me then just like the attention this wedding is getting (albeit on a much smaller level).
 
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My girlfriend is ALL ABOUT this fuggin wedding.

During our safety briefing this morning someone made an offhand comment about the wedding and for the next few minutes a few of them acted like school girls talking about the damn prom. I finally had to tell them to stow that crap and get their minds back on track.

These guys are combat vets who have seen and done some scary stuff and here they are fawning over the bride, talking crap about her dad and how cute some kid is who is supposed to be in the wedding. Geeeeeez.
 
Ouch, ouch, ouch, OUCH!

I wonder sometimes if Charles is a little salty for having to wait his entire life to be king. I realize it was always going to be "his entire life" up until the point he IS king. But, Elizabeth is really taking it out in style.

As for Harry; I'd love to have seen him go Edward VIII-style and renounce his royalness to court/marry the American divorcee! I gotta admit, the accent of Ed VIII and Bertie (his brother and eventual king), were the best. They're the easiest to imitate. And, they're really affected, too.

 
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Yep; I don't give two shits about it. But MM is outstanding!
Also I saw this thing on Twitter where someone (maybe a person, maybe a foundation, idk) said something to the effect of "Harry and Meghan's wedding gives black women everywhere 'hope.'" (they put the word hope in single quotations, dunno why.)

Ehhhhh, I mean 1). why does it give them 'hope' and why didn't they have 'hope' before? 2) let's be real grownups for a second.... she's a halfy, so does it really?

You may find my 2nd point preposterous, but I find such blanket statements as "this gives black women 'hope'" as equally preposterous. Like... Prince Harry didn't find MM at a random coffee shop in London. They met because they were both already super famous. You can't extrapolate anything about their relationship to the rest of society.
 
Also I saw this thing on Twitter where someone (maybe a person, maybe a foundation, idk) said something to the effect of "Harry and Meghan's wedding gives black women everywhere 'hope.'" (they put the word hope in single quotations, dunno why.)

Ehhhhh, I mean 1). why does it give them 'hope' and why didn't they have 'hope' before? 2) let's be real grownups for a second.... she's a halfy, so does it really?

You may find my 2nd point preposterous, but I find such blanket statements as "this gives black women 'hope'" as equally preposterous. Like... Prince Harry didn't find MM at a random coffee shop in London. They met because they were both already super famous. You can't extrapolate anything about their relationship to the rest of society.
Was it from an American twitter account? Apparently there are a lot of people in England who have a big problem with her because she's not 100% white. They feel like she's messing up the royal line. If it was from someone in England, I could understand why they might feel like they have hope now.
 
Was it from an American twitter account? Apparently there are a lot of people in England who have a big problem with her because she's not 100% white. They feel like she's messing up the royal line. If it was from someone in England, I could understand why they might feel like they have hope now.
Not sure. Just spent 15 minutes trying to find it again on my timeline but couldn't.
 
Was it from an American twitter account? Apparently there are a lot of people in England who have a big problem with her because she's not 100% white. They feel like she's messing up the royal line. If it was from someone in England, I could understand why they might feel like they have hope now.

The racist Brits can take solace in the fact that Harry is essentially a nobody in the royal family. He’ll never be anything other than “the king’s brother”.
 
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The racist Brits can take solace in the fact that Harry is essentially a nobody in the royal family. He’ll never be anything other than “the king’s brother”.
It's interesting how open a lot of the media are about it. Some of the newspapers over there have had some interesting headlines. Obviously they don't come out and say this black chick needs to go, but they will say things like "exotic" and one paper even describe her mom as being "almost straight outta Compton."
 
It's interesting how open a lot of the media are about it. Some of the newspapers over there have had some interesting headlines. Obviously they don't come out and say this black chick needs to go, but they will say things like "exotic" and one paper even describe her mom as being "almost straight outta Compton."
I never even knew her mother was black. Harry is a ginger. That will be an interesting genetic mix!
 
..........did you just think she was really tan?

I did. I just learned of her half blackness too. I mean, I knew she wasn’t of the same heritage as Harry, but I had her pegged as half Spanish or something. I didn’t even know she was American until a few days ago. People seem stunned when I’ve told them all of this recently. Am I supposed to have known who she is? Is she famous or something (outside of being engaged to royalty)?
 
Yeah, I learned in this thread that she was half black. Had no idea.
 
I did. I just learned of her half blackness too. I mean, I knew she wasn’t of the same heritage as Harry, but I had her pegged as half Spanish or something. I didn’t even know she was American until a few days ago. People seem stunned when I’ve told them all of this recently. Am I supposed to have known who she is? Is she famous or something (outside of being engaged to royalty)?
She has been in the show "Suits" for the past like 7 years, and it's one of the more popular shows on TV that isn't on ABC/CBS/Fox/NBC. In said show, they explicitly explain that she's half black lol.

It's also not hard to look at her and know she's a halfrican-American lol
 
let's be real grownups for a second.... she's a halfy, so does it really?

I, like others, didn't know she was part black. Granted, I have no idea who she is and have barely seen pictures of her, so that's my excuse. But if you look at her, she looks white (yes, tan, but that could easily be Spanish/Italian or whatever).

One thing I find to be incredibly racist is that if someone has any black in them at all, they're referred to as being black. Like something out of the antebellum days, as if having any black in them at all poisons or stains whatever else they have in them.

Like if I said Barack Obama, Austin Rivers, Steph Curry, Lonzo Ball, etc. were white, people would balk at that big time. When in reality they're just as much white as they are black, so calling them either of those would be just as (in)correct as the other.
 
Like if I said Barack Obama, Austin Rivers, Steph Curry, Lonzo Ball, etc. were white people would balk at that big time. When in reality they're just as much white as they are black, so calling them either of those would be just as (in)correct as the other.

I've also never understood this.

Tiger Woods is one that always got me. People are always like "oh why aren't there more black golfers cuz of Tiger." Well, Tiger's like 15% black.
 
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One thing I find to be incredibly racist is that if someone has any black in them at all, they're referred to as being black. Like something out of the antebellum days, as if having any black in them at all poisons or stains whatever else they have in them.
Exactly. This was my point above when I said does it really give black women 'hope?'
 
One thing I find to be incredibly racist is that if someone has any black in them at all, they're referred to as being black. Like something out of the antebellum days, as if having any black in them at all poisons or stains whatever else they have in them.

Like if I said Barack Obama, Austin Rivers, Steph Curry, Lonzo Ball, etc. were white, people would balk at that big time. When in reality they're just as much white as they are black, so calling them either of those would be just as (in)correct as the other.
I just call them Cam Johnson.
 
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I, like others, didn't know she was part black. Granted, I have no idea who she is and have barely seen pictures of her, so that's my excuse. But if you look at her, she looks white (yes, tan, but that could easily be Spanish/Italian or whatever).

One thing I find to be incredibly racist is that if someone has any black in them at all, they're referred to as being black. Like something out of the antebellum days, as if having any black in them at all poisons or stains whatever else they have in them.

Like if I said Barack Obama, Austin Rivers, Steph Curry, Lonzo Ball, etc. were white, people would balk at that big time. When in reality they're just as much white as they are black, so calling them either of those would be just as (in)correct as the other.

50 years ago, a biracial person would have done everything possible to convince everyone they were white. Now, they do everything possible to convince people they are black. People are going to do whatever benefits them most.
 
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Can we at least stop using the term African-American unless, like, they're from Mali?

And can we double down on it and stop describing Americans who have been here for 3+ generations as "Italian-American." Like, no, you're just American. You're of Italian descent. Everyone here has ancestry from another county unless your name is something like Running With Wolves Johnson
 
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