I may be in the minority, but I think Love comes back, unless his parents read this board and make him leave. Sure he takes bad shots at times, but I still have faith in him. Hubert hasn't done a great job of putting this team in the best position to win. It's been said that other teams in the league know his set plays when he calls them, and he has no identity on the defensive end. I don't blame RJ nor Caleb. They were recruited by Roy to play in an up tempo paced offense with other scorers around them, as well as a bench that would be able to provide rest for them. Hubert hasn't developed a bench, and the starters are worn out at the end of games hence the multiple close losses when they were leading at the end. When Love and Caleb get open threes in the flow of motion offense they are usually good shots. Brady helped out a lot last year with his shooting, defense and rebounding. You take him away and add Nance, and now you have two starters including leaky that aren't regularly scoring points. It's easy to criticize these players, but almost every team they played ran better offense, had better defensive schemes, and didn't have two starters that you could help off of to lock up the tree that could score. Look at a lot of games in other conferences and it's like night and day how some of them have an offensive identity and real plays. UNC was known for running set alley oop plays to get a guaranteed basket, Roy ran elevator screens to get guards open for shots, he even ran clear outs to get the wings open drives to the basket. None of that stuff happened this year. No adjustments were made on offense or defense. When Hubert was hired he said he planned to use multiple defenses like Dean did. I have yet to see anything different. We rarely press, no run and jump the dribbler, no 1-3-1 or 2-3 zone mixed in or anything. We were known for dominating the boards and getting lots of layups and putbacks. Where has that gone. He needs to hire someone that can teach defense and he needs to get a shooter and rim protector from the portal. The players are the greatest, but they are better than they showed this year.
How far in NIT do they go?
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We could play Vanderbilt in the NIT.
I'm assuming all the "First 4 Out" and "Next 4" teams will get NIT invitations, and Vandy is in that group.
Their record is a little worse than ours at 19-13 but they are 9-1 over their last 10 games and, more important, are still playing after winning their first SEC tournament game.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincinnati in the NIT, too.
Could be fun to see the UNC coaches go heat-to-head, A shame Haase couldn't make it.
I'm assuming all the "First 4 Out" and "Next 4" teams will get NIT invitations, and Vandy is in that group.
Their record is a little worse than ours at 19-13 but they are 9-1 over their last 10 games and, more important, are still playing after winning their first SEC tournament game.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincinnati in the NIT, too.
Could be fun to see the UNC coaches go heat-to-head, A shame Haase couldn't make it.
I'm not necessarily going to disagree, but how do we know those guys sucked when Hubert wouldn't play them? Was there really no one on the bench that could shoot better than Love or Leaky? And transfers aren't guaranteed to be any better. Do we want Hubert to be making promises to a Nance 2.0? I think next year will be bad either way, so at least see what we have assuming everyone doesn't transfer.
I'd like to know why you think Seth and Dunn will be "plenty good enough". They certainly weren't this year, even as backups. We can hope for improvement, but I'm not so sure. I wouldn't count on them for anything; decent depth would be a nice surprise.
They played less than 20 minutes per game (and were pulled after making one mistake) combined. I think it's a little early to completely write them off.
We saw enough. Seth played over 300 minutes, that's ~10 games worth. You think if you watched a guy for 10 games "no opinion" is the appropriate scouting response? It's a small sample, but we have enough data to update our priors.
And unfortunately, when someone struggles as much as he did, I think it portends really poorly. He struggled mightily, 7 points per 40 minutes, only 1 three, and 55% from the free throw line as a small guard. You just won't find many guys who are this bad, even as freshman, and become quality players.
And we'll have 3-4 open scholarships for transfers. Seth will be on the roster either way, what is the harm in trying to bring in the best transfer you possibly can? Then they can compete and may the best player win.
We are getting smoked by schools with lots of transfer starters and have hit two absolute home runs in the last few years with Brady and Cam from the portal, so why any of our fans are skeptical of it is a mystery to me. I say bring it on, I think we can turn it around in one off-season with the right additions. I don't want to go 10-22 just so we can show loyalty to our HS recruits.
I'm not skeptical of the portal, I just think that if you're going to recruit high level players then you should actually play them some. Completely stocking your team with transfers is no different than OAD teams. And in addition to Cam and Brady, we got absolute duds in McCoy and Nance.
ETA: and just to be clear, I'm not saying completely stay away from the portal, I'm saying it doesn't need to be used as a first option. Develop the players you recruit should be the main goal.
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We saw those guys get no real chance because they were never allowed to play through a mistake. Hubert allowed Love to be one of the worst offensive guards in the game and Leaky was even worse. There's no reason the bench shouldn't have taken a few minutes from them in early season games.
Just think!!!!!
The “Run em back” crew could really be the first team to be runners up in the NCAA and runners up in the NIT in back to back years. Now that feat should really help stop the chatter and negative recruiting. That would be epic. Let’s go!
The “Run em back” crew could really be the first team to be runners up in the NCAA and runners up in the NIT in back to back years. Now that feat should really help stop the chatter and negative recruiting. That would be epic. Let’s go!
Makes me laugh hearing people talk about Trimble leaving early for the nba after a year or 2. The guy plays great defense no doubt. But he can’t shoot to save his life don’t know how you expect him to ever be a starting D1 guard. Washington def has some upside. We are in big trouble unless we get some transfers in.
Love hit more threes in many halfs than Trimble hit all season. Loves not a great shooter, but the two aren't even in the same orbit when it comes to that skill. Imagine Love shooting 55% from the line...
Love hit more threes because he took more threes. Imagine being able to play more than two seconds before being taken out because your shoelaces were crooked. Or being able to take a 50 foot contested three whenever you wanted to.
I disagree with this. Love takes way too many shots but he's also a far better shooter. 3PA is usually a good indicator, and Love's FT% is also way higher.
Love is a mediocre shooter wait a way too bright green light. Trimble is just a terrible shooter.
I really wonder how Seth Trimble even got a scholarship. I don't know how many stars he had but, it just seems like he's only usable from mop up time. Of course, I don't know anything about assessing basketball talent on any level.
I mean maybe there's some intangible thing that I haven't seen up to this point. And of course he didn't get much playing time.
Trimble high school stats were pretty impressive, he shot the ball better, and his FT percentage was in the high 70's. It appears that he hit the freshman wall that some players have to overcome. Still holding on hope that he will improve immensely from his freshman to his sophomore year. Heck could be wrong, but willing to wait and see before giving up on him.
You might be right and he could be blue steel level, but there is absolutely no way you can determine that based on the small sample size from this year. He barely played and he was almost immediately taken out when he made a mistake.
Four star, top 40 recruit. I'm not sure how you can judge anyone on this team other than the top six players. The staff didn't play them enough to make any type of judgement. Also, I question this staff's ability to develop players. So even if Tremble has potential, I'm not sure if he would even realize it here.
He seemed a little bit better earlier in the season. But again, I'm not the person that's paid to assess basketball talent. And, you're right, the staff certainly didn't give him a lot of playing time. But, to their credit, maybe they didn't see it. I don't know.
Maybe they weren't really looking .. and I don't know either. This entire season has been a total disconnect from anything resembling traditional UNC bball and it started with lack of effort and leadership.
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